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Node posted:What are the overpowered guns in this version of Battlefield?
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Oct 11, 2015 04:31
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Node posted:I chose all maps/expansions, all game modes, 48 or 64 player count, and theres maybe 15 to choose from. That are full or have up to 10 empty slots. I feel dirty for getting into a Battlefield game proper so late, I always played them from the day they launched, since 1942. Do you scroll down all the way? It does lazily load server options, scroll down a lot to make or display them and then back up, and sort by ping. Keep in mind I'm cool with thirty two player servers, but at the same time I'm also banned from plenty of servers either explicitly or implicitly so you really should have plenty to work with.
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Oct 11, 2015 04:38
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what? people still play this? there were only like 5 decent servers a year ago
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Oct 11, 2015 04:47
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Apparition posted:what? people still play this? there were only like 5 decent servers a year ago yeah ok Whats up with symthec not having all the guns?!
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Oct 11, 2015 04:49
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verbal enema posted:yeah ok They do though? http://symthic.com/bf4-weapon-info
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Oct 11, 2015 05:19
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New Concept Hole posted:They do though? oops looked over it too fast my bad
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Oct 11, 2015 05:26
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Apparition posted:what? people still play this? there were only like 5 decent servers a year ago Theres like a dozen full 64 player servers right at this moment.
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Oct 11, 2015 05:39
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New Caspian loving sucks.
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Oct 11, 2015 08:29
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I've been taking up flying recently, and I was wondering - do passive radar missiles offer any appreciable advantage over heatseekers in actual combat situations? The ability to relock seems to be pretty useless.
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Oct 11, 2015 09:06
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:New Caspian loving sucks. You need to be taking that wall down, son. I really like the colour palette.
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Oct 11, 2015 09:15
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ArchangeI posted:I've been taking up flying recently, and I was wondering - do passive radar missiles offer any appreciable advantage over heatseekers in actual combat situations? The ability to relock seems to be pretty useless. I don't use them, but I guess if you get close enough to the enemy jet, they have very little time to react and flare. With regular heat seekers, you give yourself away with the lock on sound.
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Oct 11, 2015 09:17
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Friar Zucchini posted:Battle pickups are pretty sweet, but they're not real common. As for stuff you actually spawn with, assault rifles are the general go-to jack of all trades weapons. They patch stuff every once in a while which tones down the outliers, so stuff is generally balanced but assault rifles, in general, do nothing excellently but do more things adequately than any other infantry weapons. Try the M416 and SCAR-H. PDW's will push people's poo poo in at close range but they're worthless at any appreciable range, but at that point it's easier to run for cover and try to position yourself better. Carbines are right in between AR"s and PDW's. Snipers are similar to older BF titles in that they only one-hit-kill with a headshot, so they're generally a pain in the rear end to use. DMR's are much better IMO since they perform more consistently at shorter ranges and are pretty bad up close, but not nearly as useless as snipers, so you can get closer to actual objectives. I'm a fan of the Mk11. LMG's are less accurate than assault rifles but good at suppression and sustained fire, useful out to medium range but they lose out to PDW's up close. Small addendum regarding the LMGs: If you use them with the bipod (like god intended  ), they're incredibly lethal out to pretty ridiculous ranges. Both dispersion as well as recoil are reduced to almost nothing. Few things are as satisfying as wasting a sniper from across the map by dumping a dozen bullets right through his scope in one long burst.
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Oct 11, 2015 10:14
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Friar Zucchini posted:Snipers are similar to older BF titles in that they only one-hit-kill with a headshot, so they're generally a pain in the rear end to use. DMR's are much better IMO since they perform more consistently at shorter ranges and are pretty bad up close, but not nearly as useless as snipers, so you can get closer to actual objectives. I'm a fan of the Mk11. LMG's are less accurate than assault rifles but good at suppression and sustained fire, useful out to medium range but they lose out to PDW's up close. I'm pretty bad at the game, I only have a KD ratio of 0.39, (gently caress it though I'm having tons of fun! (Also since using a DMR, I get a ratio closer to 1.0 in matches now so my KDR is slowly catching up)) but here's where most of my kills come from: DMR (RFB, 4x optic, angled grip): 91 kills LMG (M249 SAW, 2x optic, bipod): 44 kills AK12: 20 kills Sniper Rifle: 20 kills To me, the Sniper loadout shouldn't even be in the Recon class. What does a Recon get? Tugs, motion balls, and radio spawners. Things that are for getting right up in the action not on a hill half a mile away. I'm having loads of fun with a 4x opticed DMR and the great thing is, DMR's aren't class limited! DMR + defib, DMR + anti air, etc! Ak Gara fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Oct 11, 2015 |
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Oct 11, 2015 11:17
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I kinda hope that Bolt-Actions don't appear in BF5 since they're not a very good weapon class with regards to diversity and balance. Same with pump-actions, although to a lesser extent.
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Oct 11, 2015 11:48
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The biggest issue is that sniper rifles serve no real purpose on the battlefield. The gameplay is too fast-paced to require much recon beyond the occasional spot, and the most popular gamemodes require you to get in close and take territory. Bolt-actions are made for standing still at long distance and taking out people who are also standing still. Those are usually the other snipers with bolt-actions meaning those players just cancel each other out while the rest of the teams do the actual fighting. Their role could easily be filled by DMRs but I guess there are always people who want to sit in one spot for the entire match and end a 30 minute game with 8 kills.
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Oct 11, 2015 12:15
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New Concept Hole posted:I kinda hope that Bolt-Actions don't appear in BF5 since they're not a very good weapon class with regards to diversity and balance. Same with pump-actions, although to a lesser extent. you shut your whore mouth
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Oct 11, 2015 15:32
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I'm really not liking silencers on pretty much anything. They're ridiculously incorrectly broken. Adding a suppressor increases muzzle velocity, not halves it.
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Oct 11, 2015 15:54
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That's just a confirmed video game trope though, no point whingeing about it.
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Oct 11, 2015 15:55
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Ak Gara posted:To me, the Sniper loadout shouldn't even be in the Recon class. What does a Recon get? Tugs, motion balls, and radio spawners. Things that are for getting right up in the action not on a hill half a mile away. I'm having loads of fun with a 4x opticed DMR and the great thing is, DMR's aren't class limited! DMR + defib, DMR + anti air, etc! Ak Gara posted:I'm really not liking silencers on pretty much anything. They're ridiculously incorrectly broken. Adding a suppressor increases muzzle velocity, not halves it. And you all complaining about bolt actions just need to use canted irons more often, or just plain iron sights without a scope. I get like 2/3 of my kills with the GOL up close like that. Of course it's not easy, it does take practice, and you're gonna have to either hope your first shot puts him down or else just try not to miss the second shot. If you're not using the GOL you should look at the Symthic stats and look for something else with a max-range minimum damage over 50 for the guaranteed 2 shot kill. But once you figure it out you'll be somewhere between a fair fight and untouchable, at any range. edit: Oh and whichever one of you said to put the M15 tank mines close together, and only use two at a time, I tried it out and that's actually really effective. Friar Zucchini fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Oct 11, 2015 |
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Oct 11, 2015 17:50
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Shotgun, whizzball, smoke grenades is fun.
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Oct 11, 2015 17:56
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New Concept Hole posted:Same with pump-actions, although to a lesser extent. 
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Oct 11, 2015 18:03
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Friar Zucchini posted:If it helps your immersion, subsonic ammo is a thing IRL which slows the bullet down so the suppressor is more effective. Semi-auto rifles can't cycle sub-sonic ammo.
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Oct 11, 2015 18:11
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Lightweight internals and a bigger gas tube? 
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Oct 11, 2015 18:17
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Friar Zucchini posted:That's what carbines and shotguns are for. Get the all-class weapons and you can be a lot more versatile. For example, Golmud Railway is absolutely not PDW friendly, but there's a poo poo ton of tanks rolling around, so you're gonna really want some rockets or something, so I go for engineer with a DMR. Or you could drop a motion sensor in Locker and play as an aggressive CQB recon with a carbine. This basically. If you're using more than a 4x on any map outside of MAYBE Dragon's Teeth you're a goddamn moron hill wookie. On your edit, it lets you be an rear end in a top hat on a much wider span. If you really want to get further into being a mining rear end in a top hat, use SLAMs on routes you see ATVs and MRAPs going regularly. You don't need as many to kill them. You can also drop a pair of slams and an M15 to semi-reliably pop armor. I'm still dicking with that though.
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Oct 11, 2015 21:36
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Thing with bolts in BF4 is they're pretty decent if you're actually supporting a push. While a group of roof wookies or someone posted it up is focusing on your team mates, you can put rounds into them or suppress the poo poo out of them. Breaking up resistance is almost as effective as getting the kill when taking a point. Course, this all goes out the window if you're only playing with pubs.
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Oct 11, 2015 22:08
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Nebiros posted:On your edit, it lets you be an rear end in a top hat on a much wider span. If you really want to get further into being a mining rear end in a top hat, use SLAMs on routes you see ATVs and MRAPs going regularly. You don't need as many to kill them. You can also drop a pair of slams and an M15 to semi-reliably pop armor. I'm still dicking with that though. Yeah that's how I got all the mine/SLAM kills for Ultimate Engineer, went to an instant vehicle spawn 24/7 Silk Road map and just kept throwing mines in groups of 2 in front of the entrances of D and E. Usually by the end of a match tank and LAV drivers would have smartened up but I usually got 5 or 6 people on bikes and quads each round. Fun poo poo
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Oct 12, 2015 04:27
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Apparition posted:what? people still play this? there were only like 5 decent servers a year ago http://www.gametracker.com/search/bf4/US/?searchipp=50&sort=3&order=DESC
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Oct 12, 2015 17:15
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There are a lot more than that; however, the server browser for BF4 is hot garbage and often seems to randomly exclude huge swathes of servers for no real reason. I haven't seen a rush server in literally over a year, despite having them enabled in my filters and knowing for a fact there are still some out there.
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Oct 12, 2015 17:32
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Backhand posted:There are a lot more than that; however, the server browser for BF4 is hot garbage and often seems to randomly exclude huge swathes of servers for no real reason. I haven't seen a rush server in literally over a year, despite having them enabled in my filters and knowing for a fact there are still some out there. Yeah, where are you? I think being more specific helps, and scrolling down loads more. It's nearly 8pm here in Europe, and pretty healthy selection: 
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Oct 12, 2015 17:55
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I've stopped playing this game since that poo poo-assed nerf, but in Australia I used to sort by players to find servers actually populated (still generally had less than 10 servers with >20 players). Why don't you sort by highest player count then just look through the servers that way? Doubt I'll play this again, anyway 
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Oct 13, 2015 14:45
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I have no idea why it doesn't work; I'm in NA, I have rush enabled, and I only look at populated servers. Oh, and I exclude password locked servers, but that's about it.
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Oct 14, 2015 14:32
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Backhand posted:There are a lot more than that; however, the server browser for BF4 is hot garbage and often seems to randomly exclude huge swathes of servers for no real reason. I haven't seen a rush server in literally over a year, despite having them enabled in my filters and knowing for a fact there are still some out there. This will always be the #1 thing I hate about Battlefield 3 onwards, is that rear end-backwards browser-based server menu. 99% of other games integrate it into the actual game, and have been doing it successfully for over 20 years. I loving hate battlelog.
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Oct 14, 2015 15:09
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sitchelin posted:This will always be the #1 thing I hate about Battlefield 3 onwards, is that rear end-backwards browser-based server menu. 99% of other games integrate it into the actual game, and have been doing it successfully for over 20 years. I loving hate battlelog. Even with its faults battlelog is probably the best server browser in the past decade and not integrating it into the client actually owns.
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Oct 14, 2015 16:01
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sitchelin posted:This will always be the #1 thing I hate about Battlefield 3 onwards, is that rear end-backwards browser-based server menu. 99% of other games integrate it into the actual game, and have been doing it successfully for over 20 years. I loving hate battlelog. Battlelog still beats the poo poo out of BF2, Bad Company 2 and other game's server browser. The fact that they can keep tweaking it without needing to patch the whole game makes up for faster feature inclusion and best of all, you can see your friends playing and where they are playing without needing to launch the game.
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Oct 14, 2015 16:30
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Remember the BF1942 days when everyone ran All-Seeing Eye, which was pretty much Battlelog without all the good features and as a separate program? Good times.
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Oct 14, 2015 16:48
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dice couldn't make a good in game server browser to save their life, so i was and am still all for the web browser.
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Oct 14, 2015 16:50
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I remember having to tell friends the ip address and port of the server we were gonna play on back in the bf2 days
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Oct 14, 2015 17:39
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Does the Battlelog extension for Chrome still tell you to enable NPAPI?
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Oct 14, 2015 20:12
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anthonypants posted:Does the Battlelog extension for Chrome still tell you to enable NPAPI? It is extensionless now.
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Oct 14, 2015 23:59
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Wasabi the J posted:It is extensionless now. And half the time, pings don't show up now. Huh, I assumed the XM25 was already a proper weapon, already in use. http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-34530732
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