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tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

G0RF posted:

Get a joystick with Z Axis control via twist. This isn't the only option but it's a solid one-- really does help make the piloting more intuitive and fun.
This is another option:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsrt_Sc4Seo

It's modelled after the Su-27 flight stick. :ussr:

Might be a bit difficult to get in the US, but I'd definitely recommend it for Eurogoons. It's incredibly precise.

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big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

I wonde how much backer money that model (the ship not the pubinator) and display cost.

Adventure Pigeon
Nov 8, 2005

I am a master storyteller.

Bolow posted:

I have no idea who any of those people are or why I should care

Anthony Burch is worth laughing at. The rest of them, no idea

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
lol at caring so much one way or the other about gamergate or beta males or pills or whatever the gently caress that you make a collage of people and write up some designation about why they are bad

imagine caring that much about something so pathetic

lol

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Adventure Pigeon posted:

Anthony Burch is worth laughing at. The rest of them, no idea

he is pretty loving funny to laugh at thats very true

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

Romes128 posted:

Fuckboy. I think the new term is fuckboy

I heard it might be boytoy, but :shrug:

tooterfish posted:

This is another option:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsrt_Sc4Seo

It's modelled after the Su-27 flight stick. :ussr:

Might be a bit difficult to get in the US, but I'd definitely recommend it for Eurogoons. It's incredibly precise.

Ohshi...that deffo looks great, worth to bookmark for future anyways.

CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Oct 16, 2015

Romes128
Dec 28, 2008


Fun Shoe

Eonwe posted:

lol at caring so much one way or the other about gamergate or beta males or pills or whatever the gently caress that you make a collage of people and write up some designation about why they are bad

imagine caring that much about something so pathetic

lol

gently caress you I have a derek smart collage as my phone and.laptop wallpaper.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

CrazyLoon posted:

I heard it might be boytoy, but :shrug:

Either way they are some weak rear end insults.

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007

tooterfish posted:

This is another option:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsrt_Sc4Seo

It's modelled after the Su-27 flight stick. :ussr:

Might be a bit difficult to get in the US, but I'd definitely recommend it for Eurogoons. It's incredibly precise.

It's a shame they never have their stupid high end sticks in stock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pec3us5ZaJc

it looks amazing.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
Anthony Burch did his wedding in his backyard with jeans and had an open marriage which he didn't want but agreed to and consisted of his wife loving other dudes

Then they got divorced

Lol

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
There was a p funny gbs topic about it at the time

Szcwczuk
Dec 20, 2011

I ruin everything

Eonwe posted:

Anthony Burch did his wedding in his backyard with jeans and had an open marriage which he didn't want but agreed to and consisted of his wife loving other dudes

Then they got divorced

Lol

HA! what a bitch fuckboy.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

BexGu posted:

Either way they are some weak rear end insults.

Well, it's a weak rear end subject anyway. So gently caress you, CashEnsign for the initial derail. And all of us that bought into it.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

Eonwe posted:

Anthony Burch did his wedding in his backyard with jeans and had an open marriage which he didn't want but agreed to and consisted of his wife loving other dudes

Then they got divorced

Lol

Every time I see a dude talking about an "open marriage" it's his wife getting boned all over the place and him posting about it on the internet and getting no strange.

Sounds like a raw deal.

Tormented
Jan 22, 2004

"And the goat shall bear upon itself all their iniquities unto a solitary place..."

Eonwe posted:

Anthony Burch did his wedding in his backyard with jeans and had an open marriage which he didn't want but agreed to and consisted of his wife loving other dudes

Then they got divorced

Lol

This is never going to stop giving me a good laugh, every time I read it.

Romes128
Dec 28, 2008


Fun Shoe

Wafflz posted:

Every time I see a dude talking about an "open marriage" it's his wife getting boned all over the place and him posting about it on the internet and getting no strange.

Sounds like a raw deal.

Still not as bad a dick wulf

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Szcwczuk posted:

HA! what a bitch fuckboy.

nu-male*

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Romes128 posted:

Still not as bad a dick wulf

Maybe they are the same person

BeefThief
Aug 8, 2007

DREAMS.


DREAMS HAPPEN NOW.

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003

Wafflz posted:

Every time I see a dude talking about an "open marriage" it's his wife getting boned all over the place and him posting about it on the internet and getting no strange.

Sounds like a raw deal.
Cuck porn is meme porn.

Also, it's spelled "fuccboi" because you're not supposed to have a "c" and a "k" next to each other as that could stand for "crip killer."

Romes128
Dec 28, 2008


Fun Shoe

Eonwe posted:

Maybe they are the same person

Burch has a job and no wife

Wulf has a wife and no job

Neither can get any poon

Lol

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Eonwe posted:

Anthony Burch did his wedding in his backyard with jeans and had an open marriage which he didn't want but agreed to and consisted of his wife loving other dudes

Then they got divorced

Lol

Is this for real? or some kind of Meme?

Kind of Insane if true.

shrach
Jan 10, 2004

daylight ssssaving time

OtherworldlyInvader posted:

I keep seeing people refer to Star Citizen's $90 million in crowdfunding as revenue/profit, but I don't think that's the case. I barely have an introductory level understanding accounting, so if some one has real education/experience in this please correct me if I'm not applying this right:

Basically any big company in the US and UK should be using the accrual method of accounting (and publicly traded ones are legally required to), which recognizes revenue when the business obligation is fulfilled. That means if 2 GBS superstars pay up-front to have their gay wedding catered, Doobie can't actually write that sweet cash down as revenue until he's delivered the frog dogs. Until then, the money is counted as unearned revenue which is a liability instead of an asset, because the money represents a product/service the business has sold to customers, but not actually followed through with. Haha yeah kickstarter internet spaceships, but they're still a business selling a product/service (that they haven't delivered yet) to customers.

If they're trying to pass off that cash they got from crowdfunding as an asset to private investors (like some of the speculation has claimed) it should be like an enormous cartoon siren screaming "SCAM SCAM SCAM" and would probably be go-to-jail-illegal. If any private investors are actually buying into this sinking ship, they they have to do so with the books saying that that they're buying a piece of a company with $90 million in obligations to deliver a loving product.

You're very close and would be entirely correct if prudence were still a concept but instead you have to deal with revenue recognition. But when people in the thread talk about "engineering debt" what they are describing would be shown in the accounts as an actual liability. I took a stab at this before.

shrach posted:

The companies as a whole may have received ~100m from customers but you cannot record as sales something you have not delivered and know you have not delivered. So while they may have received ~100m in the bank, this ~100m can only be recorded as a liability. They owe it to their customers and why they can hardly refuse refunds.

They can recognise revenue in respect of the percentage of the work in progress and items delivered. So if we take 1m as the number of customers, that would make each responsible for $100. Then break down the $100m as say $10m for merchandise and delivered items. $20m as base game sales and $70m as ship sales, what of this can they actually recognise in their accounts as sales? Well, say all the merchandise of $10m, half the game? at $10m and how many ships are there only concept art for? Does 10% of ships completed and delivered to their customers at $7m sound reasonable? That would be ~$27m in total recognised revenue for all their running costs to date.

For practical purposes it just means the owners cannot draw dividends from the companies if they have no profits, instead would have to take salaries (which tends to be less effective from a personal tax situation but no big deal, just pay yourself more).

Also as you rightly suggest it makes the accounts look absolutely terrible and I suppose you might have trouble passing an auditor's report on going concern. That might be one reason for not filing your accounts...but a pretty loving scary one.

Really though they have a lot to play around with especially with so many companies and we need more information on their relationships. Which company or group of companies would you like to show to the investors?

One of the companies will most likely be "hiding" massive costs (for the mocap etc) since Squadron 42 isn't finished and arguably has ~zero recognised sales for that specific game, you can simply capitalise costs as work in progress and consider them an asset. It depends on how contracts were drawn up between Foundry 42 Ltd and the US group of companies and where you want to put which items and what you want to show in which set of accounts at any given time. In theory. You are supposed to be consistent with your policies though.

Some things just do not appear to add up. If Squadron 42 is being made by Foundry 42 with assistance of the UK video games tax relief scheme (still waiting to hear from the BFI) it is supposed to be solely responsible for a number of things. Yet we've heard that certain VC investors have invested with a US company that has trigger dates in contracts regarding this specific computer game that it shouldn't really have any relationship with.

Romes128
Dec 28, 2008


Fun Shoe

Al-Saqr posted:

Is this for real? or some kind of Meme?

Kind of Insane if true.

If you Google him one of the related searches is anthony burch cuck. Lol.

And yes it's true. He made everything very public via Twitter and it was hilarious

He also banned the word cuck from his Twitter apparently.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

Al-Saqr posted:

Is this for real? or some kind of Meme?

Kind of Insane if true.

If I remember right he wanted the open marriage but couldn't convince another woman to sleep with him and got pissed that she had plenty of dudes to bang.

Szcwczuk
Dec 20, 2011

I ruin everything


Start a kickstarter for it!

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.


This is concept art of settlements on certain planetary bodies in Elite Horizons this holiday season. Given Frontier's commitment to fidelity, it's probably not far off from what the in-game shots are going to look like.

I can't help but imagine Chris Roberts, screaming at a room full of dev guys every time Frontier sends out a new newsletter. And then instructing them to get him a working prototype within one month.

Szcwczuk
Dec 20, 2011

I ruin everything

Party Plane Jones posted:

If I remember right he wanted the open marriage but couldn't convince another woman to sleep with him and got pissed that she had plenty of dudes to bang.

Prob due to the fact he got pubes on his face.

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003
Thank goodness this thread is back on topic about GamerGate.

Das Gray
Jun 26, 2015

Wishes life was in Everquest classic graphics.
Lipstick Apathy
This livestream is a bunch of numales.

Romes128
Dec 28, 2008


Fun Shoe

G0RF posted:



This is concept art of settlements on certain planetary bodies in Elite Horizons this holiday season. Given Frontier's commitment to fidelity, it's probably not far off from what the in-game shots are going to look like.

I can't help but imagine Chris Roberts, screaming at a room full of dev guys every time Frontier sends out a new newsletter. And then instructing them to get him a working prototype within one month.

Also remember the fact they did an amazing job porting it to the xbone and will continue to develop and support for both platforms, maybe even ps4 in the future.

Gamesguy
Sep 7, 2010

Party Plane Jones posted:

If I remember right he wanted the open marriage but couldn't convince another woman to sleep with him and got pissed that she had plenty of dudes to bang.

IIRC it was his wife who wanted the open marriage. Didn't he also write a giant blog about how letting your wife bang other dudes is feminism or is this someone else?

Io_
Oct 15, 2012

woo woo

Pillbug

Al-Saqr posted:

Is this for real? or some kind of Meme?

Kind of Insane if true.

He also missed out the part where Birch declared himself bisexual, went to a gay bar, felt intimidated, still couldn't get any action, then whined about it on Twitter.

Romes128
Dec 28, 2008


Fun Shoe
Derek smart please drop some truth bombs this weekend cause I have nothing planned and this is basically the only thread I keep track of on the forums.

Voyager I
Jun 29, 2012

This is how your posting feels.
🐥🐥🐥🐥🐥
Anthony Burch deserves everything that has happened to him.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Szcwczuk posted:



Start a kickstarter for it!

Isn't it kinda sexist for a man to dictate how a woman is supposed to act?

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

thatguy posted:

Thank goodness this thread is back on topic about GamerGate.

I'm so ashamed I brought up so much as that word up a single time ITT.

It doesn't deserve this.

Voyager I
Jun 29, 2012

This is how your posting feels.
🐥🐥🐥🐥🐥

Sedisp posted:

Isn't it kinda sexist for a man to dictate how a woman is supposed to act?

Maybe it's just his perception of reality since apparently not even his wife wanted to gently caress him.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
there are not a lot of things that are more pathetic than caring about Gamergate, but star citizen is one of them

strange but true

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