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Horrible Smutbeast
Sep 2, 2011

Cleretic posted:

Dota 2's 'female monster' characters, for the record, are Broodmother (giant spider), Naga Siren (fish woman with an emphasis on 'fish'), and Medusa (Medusa). You've also got the borderline cases of Death Prophet (a ghost) and Vengeful Spirit (undead fallen psuedoangel), which could go either way.

Their 'normal lady' characters tend to be at least dressed fairly well, though. The various assassins and rangers are lightly yet appropriately dressed, the elemental mages Lina and Crystal Maiden I'll cop but aren't that bad, Mirana's a priestess and dressed fairly accordingly, and then you've got Luna and Legion Commander who are actually fully armored, albeit in light armor in Luna's case.

Ehhh their designs bodytypes are still very copy paste with the base model. Sure, one is a vengeful spirit but she still has the same size tits and rear end as the other girls. Same with Naga beyond the whole lol fish tail and stupid hat/head makes her a monster thing. Legion Commander might be the only one I'm really satisfied with the humanoid girls tbh.

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muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


I'm playing through the Uncharted Collection and in 3 I really don't like the new heavy melee guys they added in. They're just irritating to fight as they take too long to go down and you end up cycling through their routine a couple of times.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Woolie Wool posted:


However, even they fall into another trap that seemingly every RPG with followers has--the fact that they always, always can be made to work together. Mass Effect does this, Dragon Age does it (except Loghain but even that's a really dumb choice because you hardly get to use him and there's absolutely no reason not to side with Alistair, it's a simple binary choice to swap Loghain in for Alistair, and Loghain is the secondary villain and a complete irredeemable cockgoblin), New Vegas does it, Skyrim doesn't need to because it's followers are nothing but mute pack mules but it drat well would do it if it had to. Why should every party member be able to get along? Why not have irreconcilable differences between some of them and you end up in a dilemma where every possible choice will piss at least one of them off. The Civil War thing is just dying for conflicts like this--being able to recruit multiple followers, and these followers each have their own opinions about the war. One way or another you're going to make an enemy out of a friend.

Baldurs Gate did this. If you didn't complete certain quests, or kept two characters together for too long, they'd fight each other and/or leave. It'd suck if you were power gaming and wanted to keep your Uber Wizard of Death, but sorry, shoulda thought about that before having the person he was contracted to kill as your backup character.

You should play Baldurs Gate.

Horrible Smutbeast posted:

Female character designs in Mobas.

It really really sucks having a really great game and the only choice for a female player character is tits mcgee. I wouldn't even be upset if there was only 2 choices for female characters and one was a knight in armour or something and the other was tits mcgee. But no, even the ones in armour have to have boob plate, high heels and some sort of spanx bottoms so you can see their rear end. Even the midget non-human types; nope, they gotta have sexy long eyelashes, perfect makeup and weird oversexualized bodies even if they're 2 feet tall gremlins.

There's a few good monster ones but they're usually like "oh no spooky spider mother" or "fat girl with big machinery" that are still strangely meant to be attractive. Just give me at least one that doesn't fall into this trap guys. One character out of hundreds, that's all I'm asking. Then they can be forgotten in a few months after the initial hype and you can go back to drawing titty monsters with bizarre anatomy wearing kpop outfits.

I think Windranger is relatively normal looking. I mean she's got boobs etc, but its a tunic and a weird hat with not a lot of skin showing.

Sorry I"m just trying to help and stretch to get it to fit your definition lol.

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Horrible Smutbeast posted:

Female character designs in Most Video Games.

I like playing as female characters in games. I like playing as attractive female characters in games.

I don't like playing as a female heavy weapons specialist who for no fuckin' reason is wearing full eyeshadow, dark red lipstick, impeccably styled hair, and spends the entire game making do-me eyes as a default expression and running like a model. I especially hate it when all of the female shoes are fuckin' pointless high heels. It always comes off as super fake and really indefensibly sexist. "This is what women look like," says the art department.

Like, I'm okay with a lot of revealing armour styles, as long as it looks functional and not deliberately sexy. Boob plate no, but I can accept midriff-revealing armours, steel armour for the arms and shoulders with the torso in leather, that sort of thing. I kinda like asymmetric, 'mobility' armour styles that leave a lot of stuff in cloth or leather rather than going for the 'everything is now steel' look. But I cannot understand why my athletic, mobility-driven close-combat heavy-weapons heroine is wearing loving three-inch heels. That poo poo hurts when you're just walking in it. Running in it? Jumping? Fighting a monster the size of a house by bashing its eyes in one by one? gently caress off.

I really liked the female barbarian design in Diablo 3, is what I'm saying.

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RyokoTK
Feb 12, 2012

I am cool.

Somfin posted:

I really liked the female barbarian design in Diablo 3, is what I'm saying.

And hated the Demon Hunter, I'm sure.

She's supposed to be athletic and swift and jumping all over the place, why is she in six-inch stilettos?!

Diablo 3 really covers the entire spectrum of female costumes actually, even within the same character. Low-level armor for pretty much all classes for both genders consists of "half a shirt and some underwear" but by the time you're halfway up the loot tree you're covered in ridiculous space marine armor and have shoulderpads bigger than your head.

Unless you're the Witch Doctor.

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Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

RyokoTK posted:

And hated the Demon Hunter, I'm sure.

She's supposed to be athletic and swift and jumping all over the place, why is she in six-inch stilettos?!

That one I can kind of understand from an aesthetic perspective. The Demon Hunter is all sharp all the time, everything about the design is blades and sharp edges and points.

Still a stupid fuckin' design, and I don't like it, but I can at least comprehend why they went for it.

Action Tortoise
Feb 18, 2012

A wolf howls.
I know how he feels.
It's totally possible to have combat heels that serve a purpose. Look at Raiden.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

RyokoTK posted:

Diablo 3 really covers the entire spectrum of female costumes actually, even within the same character. Low-level armor for pretty much all classes for both genders consists of "half a shirt and some underwear" but by the time you're halfway up the loot tree you're covered in ridiculous space marine armor and have shoulderpads bigger than your head.
I feel like I should say something about Xenoblade at this point.

Your Gay Uncle
Feb 16, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Leal posted:

Wasn't it (or still is) possible for a loving ghost to send hitmen after you, and their letter will literally be signed "Ghost"?

I never got one signed "ghost " but I definitely had some from people that I killed.

One of the things I didn't like about the new Fallouts was that Wild Wastelands and Bloody Mess were perks. Those should just be options in a menu, not something you'll have to sacrifice perks for.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

The first several subquests in DA:I are all collectathon filler bullshit of the kind mocked in the thread title. The combat system is really cool so far but everything else seems really, really phoned in.

Tweet Me Balls
Apr 14, 2009

Your Gay Uncle posted:

I never got one signed "ghost " but I definitely had some from people that I killed.

One of the things I didn't like about the new Fallouts was that Wild Wastelands and Bloody Mess were perks. Those should just be options in a menu, not something you'll have to sacrifice perks for.

Wild Wasteland is a trait, which was a thing in the original fallouts, and seperate from perks.

Bloody mess could have been popped back into its former spot as a trait though, I guess, since perks are a bit more valuable in New Vegas and +%damage is boring unless it also makes you gay.

Evilreaver
Feb 26, 2007

GEORGE IS GETTIN' AUGMENTED!
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Somfin posted:

I like playing as female characters in games. I like playing as attractive female characters in games.

I don't like playing as a female heavy weapons specialist who for no fuckin' reason is wearing full eyeshadow, dark red lipstick, impeccably styled hair, and spends the entire game making do-me eyes as a default expression and running like a model. I especially hate it when all of the female shoes are fuckin' pointless high heels. It always comes off as super fake and really indefensibly sexist. "This is what women look like," says the art department.

Like, I'm okay with a lot of revealing armour styles, as long as it looks functional and not deliberately sexy. Boob plate no, but I can accept midriff-revealing armours, steel armour for the arms and shoulders with the torso in leather, that sort of thing. I kinda like asymmetric, 'mobility' armour styles that leave a lot of stuff in cloth or leather rather than going for the 'everything is now steel' look. But I cannot understand why my athletic, mobility-driven close-combat heavy-weapons heroine is wearing loving three-inch heels. That poo poo hurts when you're just walking in it. Running in it? Jumping? Fighting a monster the size of a house by bashing its eyes in one by one? gently caress off.

I really liked the female barbarian design in Diablo 3, is what I'm saying.

Diablo, Lord of Hell, possessed a female host in Diablo 3, and can be seen wearing demonic high heels.
Kerrigan, Queen of Blades, has Zerg high heels (and always has Samus-Zero-Suit boob "armor")

Damnit Blizzard :argh:

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Tweet Me Balls posted:

Wild Wasteland is a trait, which was a thing in the original fallouts, and seperate from perks.

Bloody mess could have been popped back into its former spot as a trait though, I guess, since perks are a bit more valuable in New Vegas and +%damage is boring unless it also makes you gay.

Wild wasteland wasn't in the original fallouts.

Morpheus
Apr 18, 2008

My favourite little monsters

My Lovely Horse posted:

I feel like I should say something about Xenoblade at this point.



Okay in the defense of the swimsuit...well, it's a swimsuit. For example, Shulk:


That said, gently caress that character and her lovely design.

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!
I'm torn if I like the Medics they added in Arkham Knight (they revive people you've knocked out) because while it adds a layer of difficulty it is annoying to try to take them out first (otherwise they will keep reviving dudes) because in the heat of the moment locking onto them is quite annoying. I can't imagine how much this would suck in higher difficulty levels.

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?

Justin Godscock posted:

I'm torn if I like the Medics they added in Arkham Knight (they revive people you've knocked out) because while it adds a layer of difficulty it is annoying to try to take them out first (otherwise they will keep reviving dudes) because in the heat of the moment locking onto them is quite annoying. I can't imagine how much this would suck in higher difficulty levels.

Also they can put an electric shield on dudes that you have to grapple slam to get rid of or it shocks you when you try to punch them.

That's much worse, I think, than picking dudes back up because then you get to knock them out again for more points :shepface:

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Justin Godscock posted:

I'm torn if I like the Medics they added in Arkham Knight (they revive people you've knocked out) because while it adds a layer of difficulty it is annoying to try to take them out first (otherwise they will keep reviving dudes) because in the heat of the moment locking onto them is quite annoying. I can't imagine how much this would suck in higher difficulty levels.

Unless they exclusively revive a small subset of enemies who are pretty easy to take out on their own... yeah, this could get pretty shite pretty quick.

Acute Grill
Dec 9, 2011

Chomp

Tiberius Thyben posted:

Personally, I refuse to play anything after Aeon of Strife on Starcraft 1 on principle. Not even going to entertain all this derivative nonsense.

That wasn't a dig about MOBA innovation or lack thereof. Dota 2 is intentionally built to look and play as close to Allstars as humanly/legally possible and the devs were really careful to remind you of that when it was announced. The majority of changes have been out of match stuff like matchmaking and being a stand alone game.

For actual complaints about video games: Invisible Inc. uses procedurally generated levels for all its missions, and it's entirely possible to get one that's impossible to complete with your current party/equipment because that's the way guard placement shook out and not anything you did.

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

Justin Godscock posted:

I'm torn if I like the Medics they added in Arkham Knight (they revive people you've knocked out) because while it adds a layer of difficulty it is annoying to try to take them out first (otherwise they will keep reviving dudes) because in the heat of the moment locking onto them is quite annoying. I can't imagine how much this would suck in higher difficulty levels.
It's funny; I feel very similar about the guys who wig out and bumrush you. They're priority targets, but they're usually surrounded by other guys and tough to target.

I guess the added challenge is ok, but it can be frustrating in the middle of a big combo.

Tiberius Thyben
Feb 7, 2013

Gone Phishing


Kalos posted:

That wasn't a dig about MOBA innovation or lack thereof. Dota 2 is intentionally built to look and play as close to Allstars as humanly/legally possible and the devs were really careful to remind you of that when it was announced. The majority of changes have been out of match stuff like matchmaking and being a stand alone game.

For actual complaints about video games: Invisible Inc. uses procedurally generated levels for all its missions, and it's entirely possible to get one that's impossible to complete with your current party/equipment because that's the way guard placement shook out and not anything you did.

That wasn't really meant as a jab at you or anything. Realized it sorta came off like that. I'm actually not a fan of Dotas overall, and if I was, the community would drive me away anyway. I legitimately liked AoS when I played it a decade ago, though.

Finally, for a thing dragging a game down, KF2 only having one weapon for each class for each tier. I know it's still in beta , and all the classes aren't even out yet, so I can't be too irritated, but just having a series of weapons to buy, each better than the one before, is boring as hell.

Edit: Also. The medic tier 4 is awful at actually shooting things due to insane recoil. I would be okay with this, but it has no burst fire or single shot mode, and has the best healing, so you need to choose between being effective at healing or shooting stuff. Or maybe I am just a scrub.

Another edit: Also! Healing people gives you almost no EXP, so either you do your job as medic and never level up, or you play as a slightly worse commando to get levels.

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Esroc
May 31, 2010

Goku would be ashamed of you.
The thing dragging down Life is Strange is that it was so good I finally got around to playing some of the Telltale games in my backlog and they are so terrible in comparison that I regret spending the money on them.

First world problems.

10 Beers
May 21, 2005

Shit! I didn't bring a knife.

Grey Fox posted:

It's funny; I feel very similar about the guys who wig out and bumrush you. They're priority targets, but they're usually surrounded by other guys and tough to target.

I guess the added challenge is ok, but it can be frustrating in the middle of a big combo.

You don't have to lock onto those guys. When you see them charging, or about to, just throw some batarangs. It's like the game prioritizes those guys, and the batarangs hit them first.

Horrible Smutbeast
Sep 2, 2011

Evilreaver posted:

Diablo, Lord of Hell, possessed a female host in Diablo 3, and can be seen wearing demonic high heels.
Kerrigan, Queen of Blades, has Zerg high heels (and always has Samus-Zero-Suit boob "armor")

Damnit Blizzard :argh:

Which is really loving strange because in Heroes of the Storm you have Kerrigan as some generic hack and slash assassin who's just a sexy chick in heels with a stupid hat that's supposed to be a human that turned into the mother of all zergs;



And then you have Zagara, an assassin character that spawns massive amounts of tiny zergs out of her vagina dentata lined crotch;



So it's not like they don't know how to design these characters, they just throw their hands up in the air and go "If I can't jerk off to this then it's not a good design!"

edit: Also poo poo like this. Two female characters in one promo image? BETTER MAKE THEM GO rear end TO rear end.

Horrible Smutbeast has a new favorite as of 12:45 on Oct 21, 2015

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
T

Ryoshi posted:

The first several subquests in DA:I are all collectathon filler bullshit of the kind mocked in the thread title. The combat system is really cool so far but everything else seems really, really phoned in.

the sidequests are very rarely any good. Just do the main/companion quests for the most part, and get out of the hinterlands ASAP.

RyokoTK
Feb 12, 2012

I am cool.

This picture is completely baffling in just about every possible way. :psyduck: Are they fighting each other? Someone else? How did Kerrigan even turn that way doing that? And why are they trying to sexualize Kerrigan, anyway? Did they miss the part where she's a mass murdering alien covered in membrane and chitin? I thought they put in Nova just to be an extremely generic hot babe.

Morglon
Jan 13, 2010

Safe and sound, detached from reality.
Just like your posting.

RyokoTK posted:

This picture is completely baffling in just about every possible way. :psyduck: Are they fighting each other? Someone else? How did Kerrigan even turn that way doing that? And why are they trying to sexualize Kerrigan, anyway? Did they miss the part where she's a mass murdering alien covered in membrane and chitin? I thought they put in Nova just to be an extremely generic hot babe.

What you're expecting sense from a company that made an entire expansion for their flagship game based on one guy's fursona?

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

The Iron Rose posted:

T


the sidequests are very rarely any good. Just do the main/companion quests for the most part, and get out of the hinterlands ASAP.

Good to know it gets better. I'm kinda just chugging through it right now hoping that the characters and world building "click" so I'm actually invested in finishing it but so far I just like lighting poo poo up with magic.

One more thing dragging it down is that there's songs and they are collectible in your codex but I can't seem to figure out a way to make them play or request them at the pub.

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

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To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
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Esroc posted:

The thing dragging down Life is Strange is that it was so good I finally got around to playing some of the Telltale games in my backlog and they are so terrible in comparison that I regret spending the money on them.

First world problems.

You should try the borderlands one. I think it's the best they've ever done.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

SpookyLizard posted:

This is the best plot summary for FO3 I've ever come across. Christ that game makes no sense.

Colonel Autumn's plan is Hydrolic Despotism, President McDowell's is to make the lovely radiation water hyperlethal to all things in the wasteland that are mutants (ie literally everything, it's the same plan as in Fallout 2), the BOS's is to just let everyone have it.

Also everyone eats what they hunt like mole rats, ants, mirelurks, other people, etc. or scavenge like lovely 200 year old potato chips. People are using handheld lovely water filters that are old and decrepit and getting you like a glass a day (according to President McDowell anyway) or just chugging the shitwater that is going to kill them sooner or later.

The true mystery is who Talon Company is supposed to be working for regularly and why they don't just conquer whatever, besides their skirmishes with the super mutants. It can't just be Tenpenny, who somehow came to America from England.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
League of Legends...

Been looking for stuff to watch lately, and all the Starcraft 2 Expansion hype leads me back to pro tours/e-sports and enjoy some high level play. I run out quickly since its the end of the season and people are waiting for LotV to release so I eventually start checking out LoL, and oh the nostalgia of playing that game! I can't be any worse than I used to be; I install it and update everything and jump into the fray.


Holy crap, people are still anal in public pick-up games if because you're not getting every last creep, building a character exactly like the pros, wasting spells, etc.

Basically, if I'm not playing as good as some pro who's paid to play videogames professionally, I shouldn't be playing?

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


RBA Starblade posted:

Colonel Autumn's plan is Hydrolic Despotism, President McDowell's is to make the lovely radiation water hyperlethal to all things in the wasteland that are mutants (ie literally everything, it's the same plan as in Fallout 2), the BOS's is to just let everyone have it.

Also everyone eats what they hunt like mole rats, ants, mirelurks, other people, etc. or scavenge like lovely 200 year old potato chips. People are using handheld lovely water filters that are old and decrepit and getting you like a glass a day (according to President McDowell anyway) or just chugging the shitwater that is going to kill them sooner or later.

The true mystery is who Talon Company is supposed to be working for regularly and why they don't just conquer whatever, besides their skirmishes with the super mutants. It can't just be Tenpenny, who somehow came to America from England.

Yeah but all of that is incredibly stupid and pretty much nothing in the setting can stand up to five minutes of common sense.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Woolie Wool posted:

Yeah but all of that is incredibly stupid and pretty much nothing in the setting can stand up to five minutes of common sense.

Well, okay then.

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

Woolie Wool posted:

Yeah but all of that is incredibly stupid and pretty much nothing in the setting can stand up to five minutes of common sense.

Radiation doesn't make scorpions the size of cars! No, no, nothing about this makes sense at all!

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

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Byzantine posted:

Radiation doesn't make scorpions the size of cars! No, no, nothing about this makes sense at all!

Speaking of which, to hell with those stupid albino radscorpions. Run backwards, shoot. Run backwards, shoot. Repeat 500 times until dead. You can't even cripple their legs with the dart gun or aim for the head or really apply any strategy at all, just a big pile of HP to bother you (and wipe out any other NPC nearby.)

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
The one karmic thing I dislike in NV is that after completing "Fly Me to the Moon", you still get dinged for taking things from the ghoul base.

They're in space! They obviously don't need this Rad-X if they left it behind!

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

StandardVC10 posted:

Speaking of which, to hell with those stupid albino radscorpions. Run backwards, shoot. Run backwards, shoot. Repeat 500 times until dead. You can't even cripple their legs with the dart gun or aim for the head or really apply any strategy at all, just a big pile of HP to bother you (and wipe out any other NPC nearby.)

The feral reavers are worse because they can bug out and start twitching around, making it even harder and more tedious to kill them than it already was.

Bar Crow
Oct 10, 2012

Woolie Wool posted:

Yeah but all of that is incredibly stupid and pretty much nothing in the setting can stand up to five minutes of common sense.

The plot of 3 was basically a mash-up of the plot of the first 2 games so they included the part where the bad guy's plan is flawed and won't work. The Master wanted to turn all humans into super mutants but super mutants are sterile so it would basically be a dead end. You can skip the final boss fight by proving this to him and he'll kill himself. He'll realize he's too far gone and isn't helping anyone. In Fallout 3 everyone's plans are dumb and that's just it. There's no point. Computer President's plan to poison the water is honestly the most reasonable of the bunch because all robots yearn to kill all humans.

Despite all this, the worst plan of Fallout 3 is still Little Lamplight. A bunch of smug brats hiding behind the fact that they are invincible due to video game ratings. Nothing about them makes sense.

Heavy Lobster
Oct 24, 2010

:gowron::m10:

Byzantine posted:

Radiation doesn't make scorpions the size of cars! No, no, nothing about this makes sense at all!

This is an impressively disingenuous comeback in defense of a game as half-thought-out as Fallout 3.

Bar Crow posted:

Despite all this, the worst plan of Fallout 3 is still Little Lamplight. A bunch of smug brats hiding behind the fact that they are invincible due to video game ratings. Nothing about them makes sense.

Little Lamplight feels like it was put in entirely to poke at a vocal minority on prerelease forum discussions of the game without realizing that putting nerd oneupmanship as part of your game's main plot might be a bad idea. It's a lot like how M'aiq in Oblivion and Skyrim just existed to refer to cut features, except you have to go through it if you want to do the one major questline in the game.

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Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

I've never really understood the absolute undying hatred some people have for Little Lamplight but I'm not a socially crippled weirdo with an intense desire to murder children so maybe that has something to do with it

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StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

RBA Starblade posted:

The feral reavers are worse because they can bug out and start twitching around, making it even harder and more tedious to kill them than it already was.

This only ever seemed to happen to me in one location (the Presidential Metro) but Christ was it ever a chore getting through there. :shepicide:

It's a shame because the air force base afterwards was one of the levels in Broken Steel that I liked.

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