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MourningView posted:I mean that is not the best way to handle it, but I think I would be annoyed if like half internet was breathlessly speculating on whether or not my place of employment was about to be shut down all the time (with a lot of them seeming to openly delight in doing so). Well that would be because it pretty clearly IS about to be shut down, right? I'm not sure how much sympathy I can muster for people who apparently are working hard to convince themselves it isn't so. I mean I know it sucks but lashing out at people isn't constructive, work on your resume.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Well that would be because it pretty clearly IS about to be shut down, right? No?
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Eric the Mauve posted:Well that would be because it pretty clearly IS about to be shut down, right? I'm not sure how much sympathy I can muster for people who apparently are working hard to convince themselves it isn't so. I mean I know it sucks but lashing out at people isn't constructive, work on your resume.
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MourningView posted:I mean that is not the best way to handle it, but I think I would be annoyed if like half internet was breathlessly speculating on whether or not my place of employment was about to be shut down all the time (with a lot of them seeming to openly delight in doing so). You're right, but all shooting the messenger does is pour napalm on the "Grantland is DOA" fire. e - In a better note, DACOAHCO gets a glorious mention in ESPN's USC article: quote:The interim coach was Ed Orgeron, another member of Carroll's Camelot. Coach O was a live wire, not a phony bone in his body. Originally brought to USC by Hackett, he had been Carroll's defensive line coach, assistant head coach and recruiting coordinator. He would take off his shirt in team meetings and pound his chest, encouraging players to pour water on him. It wasn't an act; he was the anti-Kiffin. He returned to USC's old-school style of physical football, and won six of his first seven games. Finally, a grown man was coaching the Trojans again, and after defeating No. 5 Stanford, Coach O seemed confident he'd be anointed permanent head coach.
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And now Grantland's dead http://espnmediazone.com/us/espn-statement-regarding-grantland/quote:Effective immediately we are suspending the publication of Grantland. After careful consideration, we have decided to direct our time and energy going forward to projects that we believe will have a broader and more significant impact across our enterprise.
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Understandable but sucks for a lot of quality talent that now needs to scramble for a new home.
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This is some weird-rear end timing. All four major professional sports are on, college football is entering it's major month, I can't speak for entertainment but sports-wise there's no lack of content. Unless they plan to take the Barnwell's and Lowe's and immediately throw them on the mothership, you'd think that they'd at least try to tread water until the spring/summer. But I guess if someone at the Mouse says you gotta go, you gotta go.
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Welp. In 10 years we'll look back to the last couple years of Grantland and have no idea how everyone who wrote for them did it at the same time. And how Bill Barnwell was included in that group of talented people.
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I'm sure Simmons already has a short list of who he wants to write the definitive Oral History of Grantland in 5 years.Mornacale posted:At least one Grantland writer found out via Twitter. What, and pay for a plane ticket to LA just to tell people they're fired?
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Well poo poo. I hope Simmons hires the good ones. And I hope to god that Zach Lowe ends up somewhere good.
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This is just twitter rumblings but allegedly rather than one, most found out via twitter/this press release.
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Almost everyone at Grantland will be picked up by somewhere else cool, I'm sure. But it was so much cooler having them all in one place. RIP my workday reading
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I am so glad Grantland is gone. What an awful website.
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James Andrew Miller @JimMiller 2m2 minutes ago All @Grantland33 writers will have their contracts honored; intent is to use sports writers on other @espn platforms.
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With Lowe I would assume he has a contract with ESPN and they'll just fold him into their regular NBA coverage. e: well there you go
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Yeah, they must have told Zach Lowe. I mean, how dumb would you have to be to hmmm
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MourningView posted:I mean that is not the best way to handle it, but I think I would be annoyed if like half internet was breathlessly speculating on whether or not my place of employment was about to be shut down all the time (with a lot of them seeming to openly delight in doing so). Ahh we do it with coaches and players all the time. Having a job that puts your name out in the public sure seems more hassle than what it's worth.
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euphronius posted:Poor Zach he just had a kid too. I have a feeling he'll have no trouble finding gainful employment if ESPN doesn't want him.
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One complaint I've read from several sports GM interviews is that they can't even call guys to tell them they've been traded/cut before they hear it on twitter. So this may be a case where ESPN has this call queued up with their HR goons to do over the next week, but it got out anyway. Particularly with that announcement that they intend to keep all the Grantland staff.
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it would be chill if some of the higher ups at ESPN were held accountable for the poo poo show that's occurred over the past 2 years across all their properties rather than just the low-level employees that really have nothing to do with the relative success or failure of a media conglomerate this size
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chunkles posted:One complaint I've read from several sports GM interviews is that they can't even call guys to tell them they've been traded/cut before they hear it on twitter. So this may be a case where ESPN has this call queued up with their HR goons to do over the next week, but it got out anyway. Particularly with that announcement that they intend to keep all the Grantland staff. ESPN made an official, public notice about the closure of Grantland before informing their employees. It wasn't just a twitter newsbreak.
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African AIDS cum posted:Now they need to shut down 538 Well that won't happen until after next November.
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Kibner posted:ESPN made an official, public notice about the closure of Grantland before informing their employees. It wasn't just a twitter newsbreak. Oh, well gently caress em then.
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So desperate for scoops that they scooped themselves. Espn is basically ranting characters, a website, and broadcast contracts now, they better hope the contracts keep them afloat.
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Grantland was aggressively middlebrow. There were some good things there that would get drowned out by 12,000 word essays about MTV Real World. But that is how media works.
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African AIDS cum posted:Now they need to shut down 538
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They'll probably keep Silver around for ABC appearances or whatever, but yeah 538 is done after the election
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African AIDS cum posted:Grantland was aggressively middlebrow. There were some good things there that would get drowned out by 12,000 word essays about MTV Real World. But that is how media works. Do you have a good one to recommend?
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Grantland was awesome and all the negative stuff people bitch about was grossly overshadowed by the fact they published a legitimately amazing writer everyday. They let Brian Phillips write about dog sleds and sumo and Wesley Morris cover WNBA draft fashion. They assembled the best NBA coverage I could possibly imagine with Lowe, Abrahms, Goldsberry, and network for the lols. The variety found in the numerous "shoot around" during the playoffs was some of my favourite content. I probably checked the site three times daily. People can bitch about Barnwell and Sharp and Greenwald but Grantland consistently owned and I will miss it dearly.
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538 is a really good site during Presidential Election season, and the most pointless site on the internet outside of it. Why anybody got paid to come with the idea of 'hey, what if we use 538 for non-election stuff' I will never know.
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African AIDS cum posted:I imagine their burn rate was insane As opposed to yours which hasn't produced a burn yet.
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