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Could Grantland be purchased by another media corporation?
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it's very much against the law for an employer to give an inaccurate poor reference.
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Oct 30, 2015 23:47
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euphronius posted:No it isn't. In most states it's illegal to spread that kind of information, even if true, unless you are asked. Also, if anything is even a little bit false (in some states even if they thought it was true) and someone can prove damages (in the form of not getting a job) you can be sued. It's a really sticky area, most employers now just give factual information back.
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Oct 30, 2015 23:50
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Lockback posted:In most states it's illegal to spread that kind of information, even if true, unless you are asked. Also, if anything is even a little bit false (in some states even if they thought it was true) and someone can prove damages (in the form of not getting a job) you can be sued. You are talking about defamation which is unlawful not illegal.
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Oct 30, 2015 23:54
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ESPN is getting out of the pop culture business. Sports is pop culture.
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soggybagel posted:ESPN is getting out of the pop culture business. Sports is pop culture.
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Oct 30, 2015 23:56
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soggybagel posted:ESPN is getting out of the pop culture business. Sports is pop culture. That quote also baffles me.
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Oct 30, 2015 23:58
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euphronius posted:You are talking about defamation which is unlawful not illegal. You're having a hard time here.
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Oct 31, 2015 00:01
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commy gun posted:ESPN is obsolete without broadcast rights. Why not not try to branch out with different content. The "E" stands for "Entertainment"! Although, what would probably happen if ESPN lost broadcast rights is that every day you'd see 16 hours of First Take, Around the Horn, and PTI with eight hours of SportsCenter mixed in. Crazy Ted fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Oct 31, 2015 |
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Oct 31, 2015 00:02
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euphronius posted:You are talking about defamation which is unlawful not illegal. bruh
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Noctone posted:bruh
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Oct 31, 2015 00:03
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Every 2-3 hears I watch a few minutes of SportsCenter and they are showing some tweet on the screen and then arguing about it. They might show a play from a game once in a while
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Oct 31, 2015 00:04
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African AIDS cum posted:Every 2-3 hears I watch a few minutes of SportsCenter and they are showing some tweet on the screen and then arguing about it. They might show a play from a game once in a while
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Oct 31, 2015 00:05
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Crazy Ted posted:ESPN did pretty drat well in the late 1980s and early 1990s without a lot of broadcast rights. They showed a lot of niche stuff and were the absolute go-to source for news about sports. If the network really wanted to they could probably do that now, because as much as we tend to hate it there isn't a single show on TV that replicates or beats SportsCenter at what it does. Except that was awesome in 1993 because it was 1993 and it was hard to get all that stuff anywhere else. Now ESPN wouldn't at all be unique without either broadcasting rights or well-funded, longform journalism.
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Oct 31, 2015 00:06
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smart people dont spend money on television or digital properties because they know how to get them for free so the market corrects to the lowest common denominator
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Oct 31, 2015 00:07
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at least they aren't cover pro-wrestling
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Oct 31, 2015 00:08
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Crazy Ted posted:ESPN did pretty drat well in the late 1980s and early 1990s without a lot of broadcast rights. They showed a lot of niche stuff and were the absolute go-to source for news about sports. If the network really wanted to they could probably do that now, because as much as we tend to hate it there isn't a single show on TV that replicates or beats SportsCenter at what it does. Why should I watch sports center when the app gives me everything the big show does, just minus catchphrases?
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Oct 31, 2015 00:08
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straight up brolic posted:smart people dont spend money on television or digital properties because they know how to get them for free so the market corrects to the lowest common denominator True. I havent owned a TV in years.
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howe_sam posted:Why should I watch sports center when the app gives me everything the big show does, just minus catchphrases?
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Oct 31, 2015 00:13
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African AIDS cum posted:Every 2-3 hears I watch a few minutes of SportsCenter and they are showing some tweet on the screen and then arguing about it. They might show a play from a game once in a while But that's not Embracing Debate (tm)
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Oct 31, 2015 00:17
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Remember that time ESPN dedicated an entire episode of SportsCenter to Tim Tebow's birthday even though he wasn't a starting quarterback anymore?
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Crazy Ted posted:Remember that time ESPN dedicated an entire episode of SportsCenter to Tim Tebow's birthday even though he wasn't a starting quarterback anymore?
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Oct 31, 2015 00:20
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"ppl fourget" the reason PFTCommenter works so well.
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ayn rand hand job posted:at least they aren't cover pro-wrestling simmons would have loved this http://www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/ric-flairs-legacy-be-documented-espns-30-30-200701?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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Oct 31, 2015 00:59
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C. Everett Koop posted:Let's see how things are going at Grantland these days...https://twitter.com/HollyAnderson/status/660133606883487744 I don't really know who these people are but it looks like supposed professional writers acting like teenagers. Is that sorta right?
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Chromatic posted:I don't really know who these people are but it looks like supposed professional writers acting like teenagers. That's twitter, yes.
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Oct 31, 2015 01:02
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Holly Anderson is cool but that looks really bad. Yikes.
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Oct 31, 2015 01:07
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More like sports journalism in the year 2015 where they all seem to have this massive urge to make themselves part of the story. All I hear from Jason Whitlock anymore is him feuding with former employers. Those 2 deadspin articles tearing him apart were fantastic.
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straight up brolic posted:smart people dont spend money on television or digital properties because they know how to get them for free so the market corrects to the lowest common denominator Wisdom right here, boys
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Oct 31, 2015 01:13
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Jason Whitlock was never anything else than a self centred blow hard. Mentioning his name and journalism in the same city is generous.
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Oct 31, 2015 01:14
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C. Everett Koop posted:"ppl fourget" the reason PFTCommenter works so well. The rise of PFTCommenter makes all of ESPN's hot take factories irrelevant.
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Oct 31, 2015 01:17
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I can't tell what is more ridiculous: Feeling sorry for a company that laid off 5% of their workforce 3 weeks ago because 4 employees, not under contract in any way, left without notice. These employees would all be unemployed today anyway since they were at Grantland not under contract (they were at will). or Placing faith in a single unnamed source in a Greg Howard piece that reads (and might be) like a ghostwritten ESPN press release.
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Oct 31, 2015 01:18
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Greg Howard might actually be retarded. Horrible writer.
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Oct 31, 2015 01:21
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I hope Deadspin's next tbh
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Alain Post posted:I hope Deadspin's next tbh Isnt Hulk Hogan going to bankrupt Gawker? God willing
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African AIDS cum posted:Isnt Hulk Hogan going to bankrupt Gawker? God willing I can't wait to see what the discovery finds.
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Ribsauce posted:I can't tell what is more ridiculous: If those employees gave notice, they would not be unemployed today because they would have quit at the exact same time earlier to go join Simmons and would currently be with Simmons. The only difference would be the notice given before they left weeks ago. Goons have grown up in some crazy hostile work atmospheres where giving notice before you leave is equivalent to being a company shill/apologist and where its corporate brainwashing to consider it crappy your coworkers have to do your work for weeks just to make your new boss happy for his personal grudge when all you need to do to avoid that is simply inform you're leaving. Or somehow its assumed giving notice means staying past your intended last day as opposed to leaving that exact same last day like you always intended and just simply informing its happening, not intentionally keeping it secret because your new boss demanded it out of pettiness. For the record, I don't feel "sorry" for ESPN at all. That doesn't change how screwed over the former Grantland workers get when they are caught in crossfire between some ridiculous blood feud. Eric the Mauve posted:Not saying I have any idea what ESPN would have done, and YMMV, but overwhelmingly the experience of me and everyone I know is if you give your employer 2 weeks notice the employer will immediately terminate and your former co-workers will be screwed anyway. HR departments are usually super paranoid about having workers around they know have already accepted a job from another company. If this is actually true then I suppose you are right that YMMV, it's certainly not something I or anyone I know has experienced. I personally find it hard to believe ESPN would respond to notice by immediate termination, which seems ridiculous and implies the day-to-day job those editors did were non-important/worthless. Maybe they were, IDK. So It Goes fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Oct 31, 2015 |
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Not saying I have any idea what ESPN would have done, and YMMV, but overwhelmingly the experience of me and everyone I know is if you give your employer 2 weeks notice the employer will immediately terminate and your former co-workers will be screwed anyway. HR departments are usually super paranoid about having workers around they know have already accepted a job from another company.
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Parlett316 posted:I can't wait to see what the discovery finds. The pivotal moment will be when they measure, under oath, the Hulkster's pythons.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Not saying I have any idea what ESPN would have done, and YMMV, but overwhelmingly the experience of me and everyone I know is if you give your employer 2 weeks notice the employer will immediately terminate and your former co-workers will be screwed anyway. HR departments are usually super paranoid about having workers around they know have already accepted a job from another company. Do you work blue collar? This has not been my experience in white collar work, but I've never had to leave a job in bad terms so I always have given 2 weeks notice, and this has always been with at will employment.
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