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Do you need a C-series motherboard to get ECC working with ECC-enabled Skylake i3's? I've seen support listed on a few MSI B/H/Z boards but can't find it that means that it will correct errors or just not catch fire.
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spoof posted:Do you need a C-series motherboard to get ECC working with ECC-enabled Skylake i3's? I've seen support listed on a few MSI B/H/Z boards but can't find it that means that it will correct errors or just not catch fire.
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Oct 24, 2015 02:54
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Thanks. It's the answer I was expecting but hoping to be wrong. Looks like I need to wait for the X11SAE-M.
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Oct 24, 2015 03:02
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Are the new Skylate chipsets EXTREMELY picky about the RAM they work with? I spent the better part of 3 days trying to track down some compatible RAM for my new build, only to find that 90% of the local electronics retails were dumb as rocks ("Oh yeah just buy any DDR4 memory and it will work") or just completely out of stock for what I know would work.
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Oct 25, 2015 03:13
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Typically "Oh yeah just buy any DDR4 memory and it will work" is accurate
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Oct 25, 2015 03:18
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It's held true since they were first introduced: basically anything without heatspreaders will be the best ram you can get, both in terms of cost, but also in terms of long term reliability. Performance has been meaningless since the latter part of the DDR2 era, so you can get whatever's cheapest from any name brand you like.
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Oct 25, 2015 04:09
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Wicaeed posted:Are the new Skylate chipsets EXTREMELY picky about the RAM they work with? It's extremely rare for RAM to be incompatible with other parts of your system unless you get into  overclocked ram with weird voltages. The only time it happened for me it turned out that the RAM stick in question must have had some fault because it worked but died soon after in another PC.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Wicaeed posted:Are the new Skylate chipsets EXTREMELY picky about the RAM they work with? Most motherboard manufacturers will list RAM that's certified to work with the mobo in a support doc on the web. I'd recommend finding that and then just ordering something known-good from newegg/amazon
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pmchem posted:Most motherboard manufacturers will list RAM that's certified to work with the mobo in a support doc on the web. I'd recommend finding that and then just ordering something known-good from newegg/amazon
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Oracle is announcing a new line of servers at OpenWorld based on a new Sparc processor called the M7.quote:It has the usual improvements you'd expect in a new chip -- more cores, bigger caches, higher bandwidth -- but more interesting are software functions Oracle has embedded into the silicon to improve the performance and security of applications.
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Oct 26, 2015 19:51
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Rastor posted:Oracle is announcing a new line of servers at OpenWorld based on a new Sparc processor called the M7. can it run crysis?
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Oct 27, 2015 03:42
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Oracle has been making their own processors for a while but I don't believe it even holds a single percent of the market even for HPC. Last I heard it went something like 90% Intel, 9% IBM and 1% Other. I'm completely lost as to what runs on those servers other than some legacy Solaris Application.
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Oct 27, 2015 05:33
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Tab8715 posted:Oracle has been making their own processors for a while but I don't believe it even holds a single percent of the market even for HPC. SPARC has pretty much never been top of the performance heap even when RISC was king (compared to e.g. Alpha or MIPS or POWER). So, yes, legacy Solaris applications, but there are still quite a few of those out there. They're still the biggest commercial UNIX left standing.
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Oct 27, 2015 15:02
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I Just came into an old dual-e5440 setup out of sheer luck and took it out of curiosity. gonna see how well it handles gaming.
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Oct 30, 2015 08:33
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Can someone tell me where the Core M 5y10c sits performance wise compared to a i3 2310m?
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Marginally faster according to CpuBoss and Passmark comparisons. http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i3-2310M-vs-Intel-Core-M-5Y10c http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2464&cmp[]=756
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Grundulum posted:My work machine has an i7-3930k in it; 6 physical cores with two-way hyperthreading, so 12 logical cores. When I try to run jobs that use more than one core, I get the distinct impression that I'm being throttled due to thermal considerations. That leads me to two questions: May we get what OS you are using and perhaps a glimpse of what you are doing that has you think this? I have the same CPU that turbos up to 4.4Ghz but it is sometimes a bit finicky at actually getting full clock usage when doing things that aren't multi-threaded. If you are on Windows 7 or newer, try switching the Power Profile from Balanced to High Performance and see if the performance is closer to what you might expect.
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EdEddnEddy posted:May we get what OS you are using and perhaps a glimpse of what you are doing that has you think this? I'm on Windows 8.1, and I run OpenMP jobs for physics research with anywhere from 2 to 10 threads per job. Never more than 10 threads in use at a time, but even when I am running 6 or fewer serial jobs things are slower than I think they should be just from looking at clock speeds. I will mess with the Power Profile and see what shakes out. Thanks for the tip.
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EdEddnEddy posted:May we get what OS you are using and perhaps a glimpse of what you are doing that has you think this? As an addendum, actually go into the advanced settings of your chosen power profile and make sure max CPU usage is actually set to something sensible. Mine was set to 5% for a long time due to an apparently long known but never fixed bug.
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NLJP posted:As an addendum, actually go into the advanced settings of your chosen power profile and make sure max CPU usage is actually set to something sensible. Mine was set to 5% for a long time due to an apparently long known but never fixed bug. ? What sort of bug? In every Windows version since Vista, (baring the stupid customized ones OEM's create). There are 3 main settings. High performance (which CPU is 100% for both), Balanced (5% idle, 100% Max) and High Performance (100% all the time). Running Balanced is usually the best bet but I find sometimes certain apps/games don't push the cores to 100% clock properly and using High Performance kicks it up properly to get full performance in a core or two. It is really weird and I wonder if it has something to do with HT. Haven't disabled it to see if that is the case yet though.
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EdEddnEddy posted:? What sort of bug? One thing is that in balanced mode, the computer will typically favor reducing clock rate before increasing fan speed to manage heat, while in high performance mode, it will always try to increase fan speed before reducing clock rate. So with certain workloads, you'll end up never hitting 100% clock rate in balanced while in others you will.
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Nov 3, 2015 19:13
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Nintendo Kid posted:One thing is that in balanced mode, the computer will typically favor reducing clock rate before increasing fan speed to manage heat, while in high performance mode, it will always try to increase fan speed before reducing clock rate. Interesting. So would allowing the processor speed to throttle down in "high performance" still yield better results than balanced? IIRC default minimum processor state is 100%
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Panty Saluter posted:Interesting. So would allowing the processor speed to throttle down in "high performance" still yield better results than balanced? IIRC default minimum processor state is 100% You're better off changing the settings in balanced mode, rather than messing around with high performance mode.
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Nintendo Kid posted:One thing is that in balanced mode, the computer will typically favor reducing clock rate before increasing fan speed to manage heat, while in high performance mode, it will always try to increase fan speed before reducing clock rate. Isn't that adjusted from the Cooling Policy from Passive to Active? Most other more direct fan profile settings are in the Motherboard Bios.
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Yeah, I think balanced is set to active cooling by default. Mine is set that way anyway.
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Thanks for this part of the discussion. I went to check the power options for poo poo and giggles, turns out there's suddenly an option under "Sleep" to tell Windows to gently caress off about wake timers. Not sure if it was always in Windows 10 or if it's part of the insider builds. Or if it was there even before Windows 10. Either way, I hope it'll stop pulling my machine out of suspend for every little poo poo thing that happens.
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does anyone know if the upcoming broadwell-e will have iris pro 6200 like the 5775c?
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Lufiron posted:does anyone know if the upcoming broadwell-e will have iris pro 6200 like the 5775c? E cpu's do not have onboard video. Even if they did there would be no motherboards with video outputs.
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Don Lapre posted:E cpu's do not have onboard video. Even if they did there would be no motherboards with video outputs. Ah ok thanks
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Don Lapre posted:E cpu's do not have onboard video. Even if they did there would be no motherboards with video outputs.
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Torn now for my next build, between Broadwell and a DDR4 platform for whatever the heck non-volatile 3D XPoint storage Intel wants to cram into that slot randomly, if i ever said anything bad about game developers i take it back; i can empathize with not having the resources or connections to access the level of development that gets closest to the metal to make games less cpu-intensive Sidesaddle Cavalry fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Nov 6, 2015 |
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I put this in the build thread, but since it seems to be something with the chipset and ACPI I thought I'd put it here in case someone had run into it.AVeryLargeRadish posted:PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant Finally got this put together the other night. Unfortunately, whenever I leave it alone for any length of time I come back to a bluescreen saying my BIOS isn't ACPI compliant, and I'm experiencing intermittent crashes in games. I also have two Error 56s (Driver ACPI returned invalid ID for a child device (5). and also for child device (1)) in my Event Viewer whenever I boot up (Win 7 x64 Ultimate). I've updated the BIOS, reinstalled Windows, and tried another identical motherboard/SSD/vidoe card/etc (the benefit of building 2 identical PCs at once). Based on what I can find: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...200dc160?auth=1 https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?77522-Maximus-VIII-Hero-Freezeing-(ACPI-error-)/ It seems like there might be a problem with the Z170 boards on a hardware/chipset driver level.
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Torn now for my next build, between Broadwell and a DDR4 platform for whatever the heck non-volatile 3D XPoint storage Intel wants to cram into that slot
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EdEddnEddy posted:? What sort of bug? This is the reply I got when I had the problem I was talking about. No idea if this is the partiicular issue that is affecting Grundulum but here's the quote anyway: A Bad King posted:It is an extremely common Windows 10-interfacing-with-Intel-DTPF-driver issue that will never ever resolve itself. The best course of action is the disable intel DTPF drivers in your BIOS. edit: *IF* you have the settings even available, otherwise you're going to have to go the long way around the issue by editing the actual registry keys for Intel's DTPF driver -- I can help you with this via PM. So yeah I had to fiddle my power plan settings etc and now everything works swimmingly but it's a pretty bullshit bug. I don't think its immensely common but I bet it affects quite a few people who have no idea. I didn't fiddle in BIOS though. NLJP fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Nov 6, 2015 |
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frood posted:I put this in the build thread, but since it seems to be something with the chipset and ACPI I thought I'd put it here in case someone had run into it. We had an issue with an ASRock h110 board and gskill memory. Other people on newegg did as well. Replacing it with basic crucial ddr4 sticks (no heat spreaders) fixed all of our issues. Was having lots of crashes and blue screens. Don Lapre fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Nov 6, 2015 |
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Combat Pretzel posted:Eh, I just looked up why you mention DDR4 together with Xpoint. From what I've just read on the web, it seems they're targeting 2017 for Xpoint DIMMs, and apparently also needs support for that format. Correct - no CPU you buy today will likely be able to use XPoint. Further, their targets are server for what Intel has announced. Any particular reason you want it? Are you running in-memory databases on your desktop?
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Why wouldn't one want XPoint, if it's even faster solid state memory? --edit: I mean with NVMe interface.
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Combat Pretzel posted:Why wouldn't one want XPoint, if it's even faster solid state memory? --edit: I mean with NVMe interface. Assuming it costs the same, of course I'd want XPoint. I doubt it will be cost effective for desktop users in 2016/2017.
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Combat Pretzel posted:Why wouldn't one want XPoint, if it's even faster solid state memory? --edit: I mean with NVMe interface. Intel hasn't shown any desire to use xpoint as a flash ram replacement in SSD's or phones or what have you. They are targeting server memory via specialty DIMMs that allow a huge increase in the amount of memory a server can have, by using a blend of xpoint and regular memory on a single DIMM. This is either managed by the CPU itself or by an 'xpoint aware' memory manager (or both!) On the consumer front, I'd actually expect Apple to be the first ones to use xpoint in their mac pro series. They have the total control over hardware and operating system you need to turn around such a product quickly, and price isn't the first concern for people purchasing workstation class mac products. Xpoint in a high end laptop would also make a lot of sense, if the price is justifiable.
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Combat Pretzel posted:Why wouldn't one want XPoint, if it's even faster solid state memory? --edit: I mean with NVMe interface. So you mean with a drive interface? Then yeah, compatibility of processor won't matter, as long as it has PCIe. Still not sure it will be of any use, but we'll have to see what they come out with. It's going to be more expensive than flash.
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