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Carlosologist posted:I wonder if by playing up Patty's detective ability means that she's gonna figure out Barry is the Flash once they get serious and then ~drama~ That will almost certainly happen. Or barry will make a mistake around her. Or he'll be forced into a situation where he has to take action with patty beside him.
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Wheat Loaf posted:He's Tony Stark! He built that particle accelerator in a cave, with a box of scraps. Something nobody mentioned is how weird it is to see retro 40s type setting with iphones and poo poo. I approve
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Carlosologist posted:I wonder if by playing up Patty's detective ability means that she's gonna figure out Barry is the Flash once they get serious and then ~drama~ That seems like it is going to happen, but I don't think there will drama. The Patty we've seen so far seems like she would be excited about it.
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Nov 4, 2015 20:48
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I've been absolutely hating this season (and Arrow has gone down the shitter in a real bad way), but yeah, this episode stepped it up. The whole Dr Light thing was a bit meh, and Barry and Patty have just enough charm to step over the clichés, but all the Cisco and Harry stuff was real good. Kinda wish this had been episode 2 or something, setting up New Wells and spilling Cisco's secret, just getting things moving, you know? I was initially disappointed by Wells 2 being so different, because Eobard!Wells was easily the most capitvating character on TV last year. Easily a match for Deathstroke the previous year. And though Dickish Real Wells is not quite that good, he's definitely a fun and interesting character and that's what this season has been sorely missing. Was so glad to see you guys enjoyed Cisco's line to him as much as I did. Highlight of the goddamn season. (I had the shark thing spoiled.)
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Carlosologist posted:I wonder if by playing up Patty's detective ability means that she's gonna figure out Barry is the Flash once they get serious and then ~drama~ I'd be kind of a bad detective if I didn't notice you were
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Nov 4, 2015 20:59
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Patty is going to totally just say "hey i know you're the Flash, Barry. I wouldn't be a very good detective if I didn't realize it." Jay totally giving it to Earth 2 Mera. 
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Nov 4, 2015 21:06
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OB_Juan posted:Corrected: Johnny Diiiiiiick. Oh my god YES.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:15
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I would love the idea that Oliver Queen is Earth 2 Aquaman. Instead of washing up on the island he washes up on Atlantis. I don't know how far they are willing to stray from the comics but given my (limited) knowledge about Earth 2 from the comics the show's Earth 2 is nothing like it.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:19
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Bad Moon posted:He built that particle accelerator in a cave, with a box of scraps. I was thinking, actually, that what we see of his interaction with Jay in the cold open reminds me a lot of Luthor. You know, like in those old stories where Luthor's in his office, having just finished covering his tracks after his latest scheme, then he turns round and Superman's floating outside his window?
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Nov 4, 2015 21:21
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buddhanc posted:That will almost certainly happen. Or barry will make a mistake around her. Or he'll be forced into a situation where he has to take action with patty beside him. CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:I'd be kind of a bad detective if I didn't notice you were Yeah, I don't think they will go with a big slip up or Barry accidentally revealing himself. The show has already established that Barry is a terrible liar and that Patty is observant and competent. I kind suspect she has already figured it out, or at least strongly suspects it. After all, Barry gets mysteriously blinded at the same time a light based meta is active.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:36
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My favorite exchange in the episode, outside of "diiiiiiiiick", obviously, was definitely between Wells2 and Garrick: Jay: I spent two years of my life hunting Zoom! Wells2: Wroooooooong! Zoom. Hunted. YOU. *** edit: Also, confirmation that Killer Frost isn't our Dr. Snow I just realized. Wells put his watch thingy next to her when he was proving that Cisco was a Meta and it was a negative reading. ComposerGuy fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Nov 4, 2015 |
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ComposerGuy posted:edit: Also, confirmation that Killer Frost isn't our Dr. Snow I just realized. Wells put his watch thingy next to her when he was proving that Cisco was a Meta and it was a negative reading. Not yet. We know that there is a mechanism that makes people into metahumans, and that Caitlin is strongheaded and self-confident. There is absolutely still room for her to have a heel turn down the line. Also, the best thing Arrow has done so far was Slade Wilson's descent from mentor and ally into crazed villain. Flash could pull something similar.
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Flash killing it, even beating AoS: http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/the-flash-earns-highest-season-2-ratings-yet quote:"The Darkness and the Light," last night's episode of "The Flash," was the show's highest rated in season two, beating out "Agents of SHIELD" in the 18-49 demographic. According to TVOverMind, the episode netted 3.7 million viewers overall and a 1.5 rating in the 18-49 demographic, as compared to "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s" 3.8 million viewers and 1.4 rating in the same demo.
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Barry is gonna have sex with Patty for like two solid hours and then they look at their clock and only a minute has passed and that's how he learns he can share his super speed.
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buddhanc posted:That will almost certainly happen. Or barry will make a mistake around her. Or he'll be forced into a situation where he has to take action with patty beside him. Sort of covering your bases there. The only thing you left out was Barry telling her as he doesn't want to lie to his girlfriend. VagueRant posted:I've been absolutely hating this season (and Arrow has gone down the shitter in a real bad way), but yeah, this episode stepped it up. The whole Dr Light thing was a bit meh, and Barry and Patty have just enough charm to step over the clichés, but all the Cisco and Harry stuff was real good. Kinda wish this had been episode 2 or something, setting up New Wells and spilling Cisco's secret, just getting things moving, you know? have you watched Arrow this season? They have upped thier game big style. Mr Beens fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Nov 4, 2015 |
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Mr Beens posted:Sort of covering your bases there. The only thing you left out was Barry telling her as he doesn't want to lie to his girlfriend. Just wanted to be thorough! If I had to guess, I'd say patty most certainly already has her suspicions and she'll get to the bottom of it quickly.
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Mr Beens posted:Sort of covering your bases there. The only thing you left out was Barry telling her as he doesn't want to lie to his girlfriend. Yeah, Arrow has been one fantastic episode after another this season. Which made the poor start to Flash all the more frustrating.
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Nov 4, 2015 22:04
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It seems every other episode of the Flash has been good, while Arrow has been non-stop good since S4 started.
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Nov 4, 2015 22:12
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hi liter posted:Not yet. We know that there is a mechanism that makes people into metahumans, and that Caitlin is strongheaded and self-confident. There is absolutely still room for her to have a heel turn down the line. I suspect the more likely strategy is for Zoom to realize alterverse Linda Park hosed Barry's poo poo up, and to seek out Earth-2 doppelgangers that will gently caress him up worse. Hence Killer Frost.
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This episode kinda proved that you NEED Harry, show was meh until he showed up. Mansharks aside.
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TheChad posted:This episode kinda proved that you NEED Harry, show was meh until he showed up. I think it was less that Harry wasn't there and more that they were spending a lot of time messing around with the status quo after last season and in order to set up for Legends. I actually thought episodes 2 and 3 were good but had some weak aspects while they hammered things into place. The season opener was super weak (for a premiere) though and last week's episode was just dreadfully boring with the worst villain yet and an A-plot dedicated entirely to setting up Firestorm for LoT and shuffling Stein off the team. Next two weeks are Zoom! and then Grodd!!!!! though so we are getting back into more exciting villains with the season cast pretty much solidified with defined roles, so I am optimistic.
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Cavanaugh is a huge part of why season one was good and having Stein in the mentor role for four episodes really showed how critical Wells is to the team dynamic. I mean, this week was night and day from the previous episodes.
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Based on the preview, I have a bit of an odd notion that Zoom is going to kill Earth One Linda and Dr Light is going to take her place. Maybe yes? Maybe no?
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Have they said whether there would be more crossover from Earth 2 because getting the original Green Lantern would be kind of awesome. Also, I like the Gender Swap with Doctor Light. Smart move on their part considering Doctor Light in the comics and all that kerfuffle. Also, still calling Zoom as Barry's dad on Earth 2 because that would be amazeballs. If Zoom wants to be the fastest man alive to save his son Barry who was killed in the particle accelerator explosion.
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Nov 4, 2015 23:06
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There actually already is a female Dr. light. She's not a villain though.
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Ah yeah I haven't been reading DC for like 3 years now except for the Injustice book.
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Hollismason posted:Ah yeah I haven't been reading DC for like 3 years now except for the Injustice book. I think I'm going to stop reading Injustice. I mean it should have been obvious from issue 1 but they are just never going to kill Superman and he 100% deserves it at this point.
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Well of course not, you know he survives because he's in the game.
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Hollismason posted:Ah yeah I haven't been reading DC for like 3 years now except for the Injustice book. I think she's been around since the 80s?
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Rarity posted:I think she's been around since the 80s? Yeah, I had forgotten her origin is specifically in Crisis on Infinite Earths, so it is fitting that she is is one of the multiverse villains. She's definitely not a highly exposed character though.
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Guy A. Person posted:Yeah, I had forgotten her origin is specifically in Crisis on Infinite Earths, so it is fitting that she is is one of the multiverse villains. She's definitely not a highly exposed character though. Thank goodness it's not the other Dr Light. That guy was a joke for almost 40 years, then a bad joke for a further 10.
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ComposerGuy posted:I was very pleasantly surprised with, well, with how much of an *adult* Barry acted like this episode. He spent pretty much zero time angsting about Earth 2 Wells and was the guy telling everyone "Look, this isn't the guy we hate and he knows important poo poo about Zoom so suck it up". He was definitely being very responsible about Zoom, but at the same time, it did feel more than a little contrived and childish that he felt the need to hide the fact he had been temporarily blinded for his date. Why would he not just ring and explain he's been blinded due to a problem at work and he's on his way but might just be a touch late? I dont know posted:Yeah, I don't think they will go with a big slip up or Barry accidentally revealing himself. The show has already established that Barry is a terrible liar and that Patty is observant and competent. I kind suspect she has already figured it out, or at least strongly suspects it. After all, Barry gets mysteriously blinded at the same time a light based meta is active. That supposes that the show will actually follow through on it allow Patty to be competent and find out the secret instead of glossing over it in a terrible way. They did it at least twice with Iris last season, just to preserve the status quo for the season so they can build up to what turned out to be a really underwhelming way of her finding out, so there's no reason they couldn't do the same again this year with Patty. Hopefully they won't. but I wouldn't be counting on it at the same time either. hi liter posted:Also, the best thing Arrow has done so far was Slade Wilson's descent from mentor and ally into crazed villain. Flash could pull something similar. Mentor Slade and villain Slade were both really well done, but the transition between them was pretty much just Oliver injecting him and Slade immediately turning paranoid and angry. I would hardly call that an amazing descent, because it was just a plot device that did it as opposed to any kind of character growth or arc.
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Aphrodite posted:There actually already is a female Dr. light. She's not a villain though. When I saw the episode description I was wondering is this a villain version of female Dr. Light, or a female version of villain Dr. Light? I'm still not sure.
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tsob posted:. Why would he not just ring and explain he's been blinded due to a problem at work and he's on his way but might just be a touch late?
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Golden Bee posted:Because being blinded means a police report, and she already said she read all his reports in her intro episode. "I was messing in my lab at home and got blinded, I'm on my way but might be late - is that okay?" then. The principle is the same regardless.
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tsob posted:Why would he not just ring and explain he's been blinded due to a problem at work and he's on his way but might just be a touch late? Because it gave us one of the best scenes in the show so far. That's reason enough.
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Great episode. Easily the best one yet this season, as everyone else is saying. Showcase episode for Wells and Cisco, and I do really think as others were saying that a big part of it was having some version of Wells back, and therefore Tom Cavanaugh. I think we may have underestimated how indispensable Cavanaugh is to the successful formula of this show. tsob posted:Why would he not just ring and explain he's been blinded due to a problem at work and he's on his way but might just be a touch late? Are we forgetting that the scheme was sorta Iris' idea?
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