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Buff Butler posted:Huh. While it would be crass to suggest that that's why Destiny has gotten so much better in the past year, maybe that's why Destiny has gotten so much better in the past year. It's much better because vanilla was hamstrung by a reboot that gave the Bungie development team less than a year to release. The gameplay in the latest expansion is fundamentally the same, just with a lot more actual content and a semi-coherent story written by writers with far less pressure.
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SunAndSpring posted:Sounds like they keep interrupting the main story to force you to do Minecraft poo poo with your settlement. To be fair, does anyone ever really care to stay with the Bethesda main story for long? They might as well claim their failing as a strength by time sinking on purpose instead of on accident because Shaun's fine.
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Buff Butler posted:From what I've seen in the leaked footage, shooting human opponents is a bit better because they take cover instead of doing the Gamebryo float. Nonhuman enemies still do the Gamebryo float. Yeah didnt they also transfer a guy over from ID software to help out with that? I guess its only so much you can do about designing the gunplay when the animation team cant figure out how to incorporate damage flinching in the game.
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GyverMac posted:Yeah didnt they also transfer a guy over from ID software to help out with that? I guess its only so much you can do about designing the gunplay when the animation team cant figure out how to incorporate damage flinching in the game. Really what I take from this is that the game probably did have a crash dev cycle spurred on by the crashing and burning of that Elder Scrolls MMO that was insanely bad and unpopular.
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Crabtree posted:To be fair, does anyone ever really care to stay with the Bethesda main story for long? They might as well claim their failing as a strength by time sinking on purpose instead of on accident because Shaun's fine. Only time I really follow a Bethesda main story is up until the point it's unlocked whatever content it had gated (power armor in FO3, the shouts in Skyrim) though I tend to finish DLC stories which tend to be better than the vanilla game but that might just be due to length.
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Hot Jam posted:It's from the 20th century. 1997. This seems like an odd way to phrase 1997, so every couple of years they stay go in and retool the engine to work on newer platforms and hardware? I kind of like the East Coast Brotherhood. It makes sense to me that a fighting force with dwindling man power would reach out to the locals to replace those losses and nothing really in grains a population to you like helping to bring them security. Goddamn I would love a Fallout Seattle. I kind of hope we'll get a DLC for New York or maybe that'll be Fallout 5, unless they go do Fallout Miami.
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precision posted:The Strip is the worst area of the game, but you really don't have to spend much time there at all. I thought it was intentional that Vegas is built up in your head as you travel there, and when you get there, it's just another little settlement with a bunch of assholes. Yeaaa, that's sorta going to be my plan if I keep playing. The place sucks!
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SunAndSpring posted:Sounds like they keep interrupting the main story to force you to do Minecraft poo poo with your settlement. No they don't. You get a tutorial for it and then you basically can ignore it aside from sidequests.
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gently caress Seattle, man; Chicago's where it's at. Just imagine the blues heavy soundtrack blasting while you're on the run from mob soldiers.
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Mokinokaro posted:Only time I really follow a Bethesda main story is up until the point it's unlocked whatever content it had gated (power armor in FO3, the shouts in Skyrim) though I tend to finish DLC stories which tend to be better than the vanilla game but that might just be due to length. Well, now the power armor is technically given to you in the first mission.
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Crabtree posted:To be fair, does anyone ever really care to stay with the Bethesda main story for long? They might as well claim their failing as a strength by time sinking on purpose instead of on accident because Shaun's fine.
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Crabtree posted:To be fair, does anyone ever really care to stay with the Bethesda main story for long? They might as well claim their failing as a strength by time sinking on purpose instead of on accident because Shaun's fine.  He agrees with you!
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:Lack of cpu cycles probably. Looks more like outdoor shadows use an enhanced version of Skyrim's - probably for the sake of not cooking your GPU. Indoor shadow rendering uses a combination of diffuse and volumetric lighting - you don't see as many "hard" shadows indoors, because with so many scattering surfaces, you generally wouldn't, unless there's only a small number of point or highly directional light sources. Also, looks like we now have self-shadowing of NPC's, creatures and many static objects. Note, that in that last interior shot, the entire foreground is diffusely lit, and not being hit by any specific light source. Hence the "washed out" or "fullbright" look.    
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KomradeX posted:This seems like an odd way to phrase 1997, so every couple of years they stay go in and retool the engine to work on newer platforms and hardware? same. I like east coast brotherhood.
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Bethesda games aren't janky because of gamebryo, they're janky because it's Bethesda creating games on said engine
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frajaq posted:
The same story you've always told with every video game, you're wasting your life having fun.
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Crabtree posted:To be fair, does anyone ever really care to stay with the Bethesda main story for long? They might as well claim their failing as a strength by time sinking on purpose instead of on accident because Shaun's fine. same, look at skyrim. Both of the main plots are pretty weak. I am just happy they arnt pulling a fallout 3 ending.
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ImpAtom posted:No they don't. You get a tutorial for it and then you basically can ignore it aside from sidequests. What about The Molecular Level main quest? Don't you need 30 Power and supplies to build the device?
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So can we change the name of this thread from Fallout 4 to Borderlands 3 yet?
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dd209 posted:I don't need to read the opinion of someone who liked Dragon Age. First dragon age was best.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:same. I like east coast brotherhood. Yeah I don't mind them as a concept. I wish they were a little more nuanced than FO3 presented them as (and going by the FO4 launch trailer, this sect seems to be.)
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if this game's main quest has you die at the end (like fo3) then that's reason enough to never touch it
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Deutsch Nozzle posted:if this game's main quest has you die at the end (like fo3) then that's reason enough to never touch it Good news!
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Scoops posted:So can we change the name of this thread from Fallout 4 to Borderlands 3 yet? Bethesda hasn't made a Tiny Tina yet.
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Crabtree posted:Bethesda hasn't made a Tiny Tina yet. MacReady and Little Lamplight.
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Deutsch Nozzle posted:if this game's main quest has you die at the end (like fo3) then that's reason enough to never touch it 
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Father Wendigo posted:gently caress Seattle, man; Chicago's where it's at. Just imagine the blues heavy soundtrack blasting while you're on the run from mob soldiers. It'd be even more badass if they featured some ghoulified John Hughes character cameos. You can save Ferris (get charisma bobblehead), help John Bender steal something from a school. Then take in a show from the Blues Brothers.
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Deutsch Nozzle posted:if this game's main quest has you die at the end (like fo3) then that's reason enough to never touch it Hey, they let you survive it. Eventually. If you got the DLC.
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Mokinokaro posted:Only time I really follow a Bethesda main story is up until the point it's unlocked whatever content it had gated (power armor in FO3, the shouts in Skyrim) though I tend to finish DLC stories which tend to be better than the vanilla game but that might just be due to length. The main quest in bethesda games tend to have gated content and point you towards the better side quests. I want to avoid the main story but if I do it'll probably me just running around bland dungeons hoping I find a decent side quest.
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After reading the review, I am not surprised. I don't really enjoy the story for Beth games. It's just the spelunking I enjoy.
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Will I be able to reenact Fist of the North Star with unarmed combat in FO4? Living out my Kenshiro role play fantasy is of great importance for whether I'll get the game or not.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:After reading the review, I am not surprised. I don't really enjoy the story for Beth games. It's just the spelunking I enjoy. The most fun I had in Skyrim was going around the country jumping into every hole in the ground that had an "ANCIENT RUINS BE HERE" sign on, committing genocide on skeletons, and then poking around a bunch of literal garbage and filth for items like some kind of medieval homeless cat lady. So, same.
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precision posted:The most fun I had in Skyrim was going around the country jumping into every hole in the ground that had an "ANCIENT RUINS BE HERE" sign on, committing genocide on skeletons, and then poking around a bunch of literal garbage and filth for items like some kind of medieval homeless cat lady. This is Bethesda gaming. Maybe there's a plot, but it's totally unimportant to the best hiking and homicide simulators in the gaming world.
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jfood posted:This is Bethesda gaming. Maybe there's a plot, but it's totally unimportant to the best hiking and homicide simulators in the gaming world. And hoarding simulator
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"Hey John Fallout, do you, erm, do you really need to be carrying twenty sniper rifles?" "YES."
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I'm really hyped to make a stupid house and fill it with worthless crap. How early in the game can I do this?
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Daztek posted:And hoarding simulator precision posted:"Hey John Fallout, do you, erm, do you really need to be carrying twenty sniper rifles?" waiting for the mod that lets me build a throne out of guns like in GoT
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marktheando posted:I'm really hyped to make a stupid house and fill it with worthless crap. How early in the game can I do this? Extremely early. Within an hour of leaving the vault you get the construction tutorial quest.
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marktheando posted:I'm really hyped to make a stupid house and fill it with worthless crap. How early in the game can I do this? From what I've seen it's part of the very first quest after leaving the vault e: the more I think about it the cooler it is that this game's megaton is something you actually get to build yourself
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