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Looks like release was pushed 2 hours (CET), according to the steam store page. How reliable is that?
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I'm glad aliens in fallout trigger some goons
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Nov 9, 2015 01:15
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Vhak lord of hate posted:Uh yeah? If you didn't take Whacky Wasteland you'd never see aliens in New Vegas, it's almost like that was the best option??????? Have a setting for people who don't want to see the stupid references that game devs think are clever. Fallout, as in the literal act game itself, is pop culture references. That is the point. It's half Mad Max references and half goofy Americana. Fallout 2 makes it a lot more blatant and straightforward with Austin Powers and Pinky and the Brain but the setting as it exists is "what if Mad Max happened in goofy nuclear-future America?" There are some cool sets of worldbuilding but they are worldbuilding around a fundamentally silly and tongue-in-cheek setting.
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Nov 9, 2015 01:16
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Vhak lord of hate posted:Uh yeah? If you didn't take Whacky Wasteland you'd never see aliens in New Vegas, it's almost like that was the best option??????? Have a setting for people who don't want to see the stupid references that game devs think are clever.
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Nov 9, 2015 01:17
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Real hurthling! posted:fallout poo poo in fallout? wtf! It's not that they're in there, it's that the explanations don't make sense. The super mutants in FO3 are vault-tec FEV experiments just because you need super mutants. The Enclave are there because you need the Fallout bad guys. The BoS are there because you need Fallout good guys (they were not good in the earlier Fallouts). I'm saying it's derivative because they're taking things from the earlier games and just retreading ground, instead of doing something new and innovative.
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Nov 9, 2015 01:18
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If you hate the silly references in Fallout do not agree with me because you don't understand Fallout.
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Nov 9, 2015 01:19
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 hahah Maccready is still a little poo poo
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Nov 9, 2015 01:20
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frajaq posted:
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Nov 9, 2015 01:21
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Buschmaki posted:It's not that they're in there, it's that the explanations don't make sense. The super mutants in FO3 are vault-tec FEV experiments just because you need super mutants. The Enclave are there because you need the Fallout bad guys. The BoS are there because you need Fallout good guys (they were not good in the earlier Fallouts). I'm saying it's derivative because they're taking things from the earlier games and just retreading ground, instead of doing something new and innovative. This is sort of a no-win situation though. If they made Fallout 3 but didn't have super mutants or ghouls or any references to the previous factions they''d have been met with "see, they don't get Fallout, they just made their own setting and called it Fallout!" For good or ill all those things are considered fairly iconic to Fallout. They could certainly come up with better ways to explain them but not having them would run into a similar problem. frajaq posted:hahah Maccready is still a little poo poo Huh. That chart is probably somewhat wrong because I know that isn't MacCready's like/dislike chart. Dude tossed out tons of happy points when I bilked people for caps. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Nov 9, 2015 |
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Buschmaki posted:It's not that they're in there, it's that the explanations don't make sense. The super mutants in FO3 are vault-tec FEV experiments just because you need super mutants. The Enclave are there because you need the Fallout bad guys. The BoS are there because you need Fallout good guys (they were not good in the earlier Fallouts). I'm saying it's derivative because they're taking things from the earlier games and just retreading ground, instead of doing something new and innovative. And goombas in Mario are mushroom kingdom citizens transformed by bowser but show up in the games set outside the mushroom kingdom, what's up with that?
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Nov 9, 2015 01:23
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frajaq posted:
maccready is the only realistic companion "im just around you because you shoot things and have big guts, dont take drugs or solve things with your words just keep killing"
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Nov 9, 2015 01:23
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Piper doesn't like violence or peace? 
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Nov 9, 2015 01:23
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Lotish posted:So don't go in that cave that has the alien in it? Boom, no alien. It's a little tough to explain exactly why I feel like it's so dumb that they keep bringing them up--in FO1 they were just a goofy non-interactable joke, perfectly in keeping with the rest of the goofy non-interactable jokes, but it seems like Bethesda saw that one random encounter and said "OH okay, so there's aliens in this universe.. We should put some in, pew-pew!" and then physically had them show up and have a unique weapon. Ok, still goofy but a little more interactable. I'm on board. Then they said "what about MORE ALIENS!" and made a terrible DLC that's like explicitly alien-focused. And now they're showing up again. It just feels like they didn't Get that the initial joke was a one-off "haha, how silly!" thing
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Nov 9, 2015 01:24
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Yeah, that's true. It's easy to criticize Fallout 3 because I know what I don't like about the setting, but if you pressed me to come up with a better one I couldn't do it. Obsidian definitely had the easier job developing Fallout New Vegas because so many things in the West Coast have been fleshed out, while Bethesda had to make an entirely new East Coast while keeping the same elements. That's why I hope they do something interesting with Synths, the Institute, and the Minutemen in 4, because it's giving them a chance to add their own unique contribution.
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Nov 9, 2015 01:24
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:And goombas in Mario are mushroom kingdom citizens transformed by bowser but show up in the games set outside the mushroom kingdom, what's up with that? Mario isn't an RPG with a heavy focus on story. e: Unless you're talking about the Super Mario RPG, which specifically takes place somewhere else so it doesn't run into those problems.
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Nov 9, 2015 01:25
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Lotish posted:Piper doesn't like violence or peace? I'm pretty sure that chart is kind of hosed up or from an earlier version or something. There's a lot straight-up wrong on it. (Deacon isn't universally positive on nice/mean responses for example.)
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Nov 9, 2015 01:25
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gasman posted:Looks like release was pushed 2 hours (CET), according to the steam store page. It's reliable, Bethesda just tweeted about it. That means that the VPN unlock won't be until 8EST now.
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Nov 9, 2015 01:25
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Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:It's a little tough to explain exactly why I feel like it's so dumb that they keep bringing them up--in FO1 they were just a goofy non-interactable joke, perfectly in keeping with the rest of the goofy non-interactable jokes, but it seems like Bethesda saw that one random encounter and said "OH okay, so there's aliens in this universe.. We should put some in, pew-pew!" and then physically had them show up and have a unique weapon. Ok, still goofy but a little more interactable. I'm on board. Then they said "what about MORE ALIENS!" and made a terrible DLC that's like explicitly alien-focused. And now they're showing up again. It just feels like they didn't Get that the initial joke was a one-off "haha, how silly!" thing Okay, I can feel where you're coming from, and I might even chime in with you if they decide to make a romanceable grey companion.
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Nov 9, 2015 01:27
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Why is everyone who is down with violence dislike being mean to people.
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Nov 9, 2015 01:27
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frajaq posted:
Maccready hates it when you're nice, but also hates it when you're mean? Cait likes it when you're selfish and violent, but hates it when you're generous, peaceful, and....mean? Valentine doesn't like peace or violence, but loves being mean and nice? I don't understand this.
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Nov 9, 2015 01:28
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Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:then physically had them show up and have a unique weapon. The Alien Blaster was in Fallout 1 and 2!
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Nov 9, 2015 01:28
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i am SO ready to play this video game
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Nov 9, 2015 01:29
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Evil Canadian posted:Why is everyone who is down with violence dislike being mean to people. all or nothing Noctis Horrendae posted:i am SO ready to play this video game
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Nov 9, 2015 01:29
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VanillaGorilla posted:It's reliable, Bethesda just tweeted about it. That means that the VPN unlock won't be until 8EST now. That was only NZ, yes, but on the store page it looks like they pushed all timezones 2 hours.
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Nov 9, 2015 01:31
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Vargs posted:Maccready hates it when you're nice, but also hates it when you're mean? Cait likes it when you're selfish and violent, but hates it when you're generous, peaceful, and....mean? Valentine doesn't like peace or violence, but loves being mean and nice? I don't understand this. Truly these are the most complicated, layered, and well written characters in gaming's history. Guess we gotta just play the game to understand their depth.
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Nov 9, 2015 01:32
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Vargs posted:Maccready hates it when you're nice, but also hates it when you're mean? Cait likes it when you're selfish and violent, but hates it when you're generous, peaceful, and....mean? Valentine doesn't like peace or violence, but loves being mean and nice? I don't understand this. Yeah that chart is really weird. Also, I'm pretty sure Piper doesn't mind peaceful options.
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Nov 9, 2015 01:32
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Vargs posted:Maccready hates it when you're nice, but also hates it when you're mean? Cait likes it when you're selfish and violent, but hates it when you're generous, peaceful, and....mean? Valentine doesn't like peace or violence, but loves being mean and nice? I don't understand this. The chart is really bad. MacCready hates it if you're nice when it comes to profit. He hates it if you're mean in stupid or unprofitable ways. The dude's gimmick is basically "is this making us money Y/N? If Y then I like it."
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Nov 9, 2015 01:32
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ImpAtom posted:Stealth is extremely powerful in the usual Bethesda way. Absurd critical damage and if you're smart you can gain it to entire rooms. There are several companion perks that make it even more absurd including one I'm convinced is glitched in the player's favor. You can find armor layers that give you abilities like "become stealthed when not moving" as well. Yay I love stealth in these games and honestly don't even care if stuff is OP I just find in satisfying for some reason.
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ImpAtom posted:MacCready hates it if you're nice when it comes to profit. He hates it if you're mean in stupid or unprofitable ways. The dude's gimmick is basically "is this making us money Y/N? If Y then I like it." Finally a companion that reflects what all RPG players are always thinking in their head: "Am I going to be rewarded for this?"
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Nov 9, 2015 01:34
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widespread posted:MacCready you gently caress go back to Speaking of which I wonder if Bethesda learned New Vegas lesson in hiring TV/B-movie actors over one A-list actor that kills the budget
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Nov 9, 2015 01:36
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Seashell Salesman posted:Yay I love stealth in these games and honestly don't even care if stuff is OP I just find in satisfying for some reason. I haven't played a non-stealth, long-range shooter in any of these games.
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Nov 9, 2015 01:38
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i am harry posted:I haven't played a non-stealth, long-range shooter in any of these games. I did in New Vegas but that is because New Vegas made it totally viable to never touch a combat stat ever. That was awesome.
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Nov 9, 2015 01:40
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Where are the pictures of the strat guide coming from? I thought it was a thread on reddit but I couldn't find it on /r/fo4.
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Nov 9, 2015 01:42
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i am harry posted:I haven't played a non-stealth, long-range shooter in any of these games. I go with the typical overpowered stealth sniper in all of Bethesda's games, but I think I'm going to finally break away from that for this one. Heavy Guns + Explosives all the way.
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Nov 9, 2015 01:42
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I've never used a VPN. Anyone have a link to one I should use?
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Nov 9, 2015 01:42
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Seashell Salesman posted:Where are the pictures of the strat guide coming from? I thought it was a thread on reddit but I couldn't find it on /r/fo4. Some guy on 4chan got the strategy guide early I believe and was posting the blurry phone images in their thread.
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Nov 9, 2015 01:44
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Cait is going to be an awesome drinking partner/pack-mule.
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Nov 9, 2015 01:46
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I heard Piper just wants to be there when you discover new things as she's all about writing in her paper, but maybe those images are wrong?
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Nov 9, 2015 01:47
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Fergus posted:I've never used a VPN. Anyone have a link to one I should use? Somebody linked this one earlier, you can sign up for a 500 meg a month free option. https://www.goldenfrog.com/vyprvpn 1. Preload FO 4 on steam normally. 2. When it unlocks in New Zealand disconnect from Steam. 3. Use the VPN program to use their New Zealand server. 4. Connect back to Steam, it should unlock FO 4. 5. Once it's unlocked go into steam offline mode. 6. Post screenshots of crazy glitches in this thread.
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:Somebody linked this one earlier, you can sign up for a 500 meg a month free option. https://www.goldenfrog.com/vyprvpn Awesome, cheers mate.
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