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Bifauxnen posted:Could always vote MMG instead, just sayin'. This is scummy in the context of the day. I'd very much like to see what happens in light of Quid's claim, and that can be a useful driver for the next couple of days. That said, this action kicks that can down the road. As Bif is one of the candidates, I find this exceptionally suspicious.
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grabbing dinner, don't know when i'll be back, but i'll leave vote on quid based on his sick fuckery ##vote quid
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Nov 14, 2015 00:05
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This whole quid thing smells bad. ##vote quid
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Nov 14, 2015 00:08
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CCKeane posted:This is scummy in the context of the day. I'd like to see more confirmation about it too, but his distraction has given people a real easy out to forget about regular scum hunting.
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Nov 14, 2015 00:17
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Quid gave his own game away, he may be 3P but if it was a malicious or anti-town 3P I don't know what he'd gain by telling us. I think he was trying to make the best of a weird role that required prompting others to flavour claim, lynching him won't benefit town. That he has changed on Ecco cop I think puts suspicion away from Bif and reframes her and Venom's insistence as something I would like to see tested. ##vote MMG
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Nov 14, 2015 00:23
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I know I'm flip flopping here based on my last post, but why is everyone voting Quid when he was upfront about lying? He came forward about him lying in the first place in order to help town, or it was an attempt that backfired, at least it seems that way to me. He made a gambit based on his role and it didn't pay off, but is that enough reason to hang him? Regardless if Quid is full of poo poo or not, Kommando seems pretty shaky with his defense and his reason for voting. ##unvote ##vote Kommando
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Nov 14, 2015 00:26
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Quidnose posted:Real talk, I lied Quidnose posted:I just haven't shared all the information about my role and I lied initially Quidnose posted:I already said I lied about the Eccocop. Why should we trust you when we've already lied once? Kashuno posted:I want MMG to flavor claim, but I don't know how I'll judge it based on what we've seen so far. I have no idea what kind of console the scum is supposed to be. I could flavour claim all day but considering the various roles getting thrown around I doubt anyone would believe me since I'm not a handheld or a phone. For those that don't know Anidav, he posts a lot in the crew thread about the N-Gage so it wouldn't surprise me if phones are a role in this game.
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Nov 14, 2015 00:28
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Kat Delacour posted:Quid gave his own game away, he may be 3P but if it was a malicious or anti-town 3P I don't know what he'd gain by telling us. I think he was trying to make the best of a weird role that required prompting others to flavour claim, lynching him won't benefit town. That he has changed on Ecco cop I think puts suspicion away from Bif and reframes her and Venom's insistence as something I would like to see tested. If you believe what Quid said, then effectively he told the truth. He claimed that his role told him that those three players were handhelds, and that one of them was scum which means his eccocop results are technically true. I wouldn't blame you for not believing him, but this post implied that you do believe him but for some reason his results are no longer valid?
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Nov 14, 2015 00:29
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Also I'll be missing deadline due to going to see Spectre  But I'll try to have a vote in with about an hour to go. Sorry.
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Nov 14, 2015 00:30
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Yeah, that's hella scummy of Kat. Why would me lying about the Ecco Cop being a thing change the fact that I was told one of the three of them was scum?
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SirSamVimes posted:If you believe what Quid said, then effectively he told the truth. He claimed that his role told him that those three players were handhelds, and that one of them was scum which means his eccocop results are technically true. I wouldn't blame you for not believing him, but this post implied that you do believe him but for some reason his results are no longer valid? I just don't know that there is enough motivation from the rest of town to take that advice seriously. At least before it was a straightforward sensor-like, it sounds like this time he got a list of handhelds (and I agree on the Xperia not being included is potentially weird). iajanus claimed teal gameboy colour and the specificity of Teal also made me question at the time, so if there is a handheld game list he certainly should be on it. The teams were allegedly given cover claims, according to Anidav's own instructions, that would only make the game HARDER for town, so I don't know how that fits in.
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Nov 14, 2015 00:36
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SirSamVimes posted:If you believe what Quid said, then effectively he told the truth. He claimed that his role told him that those three players were handhelds, and that one of them was scum which means his eccocop results are technically true. I wouldn't blame you for not believing him, but this post implied that you do believe him but for some reason his results are no longer valid? Yeah that Kat post doesn't really follow for me either. MMG still looks scummy to me though, his "you lied once, you could lie again!" just sounds a bit trite like he's looking for a town script. If Quid is actually scum rather than 3P why come out with such an outrageous gambit so early when there's loads of people to hide in. And he did come out early on me, and yes I am a handheld. So he's not making all that up. He might not be as benevolent a 3P as he claims. Maybe he doesn't turn town, he just gets his win con filled. But it still seems like a way easy out. It would help to verify his claim if he dies, yes, so I'll help lynch him if he stays the leader, but anyone abandoning scumhunting to onlyplay flavor detective is suss.
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Nov 14, 2015 00:37
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You told us your role wasn't what you told us it was, that is to say you changed on ecco cop. If your actual results mean one of bif, komm or bromp isn't scum then I believe I would like to follow Bif down the rabbit hole. Don't put words in my mouth.
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Nov 14, 2015 00:38
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Nov 14, 2015 00:39
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Quidnose posted:Yeah, that's hella scummy of Kat. Why would me lying about the Ecco Cop being a thing change the fact that I was told one of the three of them was scum? Wait wait wait. One of WHO three are scum? Because iajanus wasn't on your original list of "one of these three is scum"
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Nov 14, 2015 00:42
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Kat Delacour posted:You told us your role wasn't what you told us it was, that is to say you changed on ecco cop. If your actual results mean one of bif, komm or bromp isn't scum then I believe I would like to follow Bif down the rabbit hole. Don't put words in my mouth. What? I told you my role was Ecco Cop and I knew one of them was scum. Then I told you that I still knew one of them was scum, but it wasn't because I was an Ecco Cop. You seemed to imply that because I wasn't Ecco Cop, my information was inaccurate. I don't get this and I don't get why you are suddenly so mad at me not getting it.
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Nov 14, 2015 00:42
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Kat Delacour posted:Wait wait wait. One of WHO three are scum? Because iajanus wasn't on your original list of "one of these three is scum" I said I believed Janus was lying about being a handheld device because he wasn't on my list of handheld devices. You seem to be not reading~
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Nov 14, 2015 00:43
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Why did you say you lied about being an Ecco cop if in essence the functionality of your role was the same as you originally posited? You're just loving confusing
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Nov 14, 2015 00:44
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Because I initially was planning on trying to play to my win condition in a manner that didn't start with me saying "HEY DUDES I HAVE NO ALIGNMENT BUT"?
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Nov 14, 2015 00:45
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Alright so short version without fluff about apple bullshit Handhelds are Bif, Kommando, Bromp 1 of the Handhelds is a scum iajanus flavour claimed handheld but wasn't on the list But Anidav said scum were given covers which surely he would have given them a flavour cover that didn't trip the flavour alarm of your role, since it was explicitly stated it would make the game harder. Unless iajanus is known to other mafia players as being a fly by the seat of your pants scum who doesn't actually read the cover they were given?
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Votecount for Day 2  Quidnose (8): merk, EXAKT Science, Kommando, Tommunist, CCKeane, Quidnose, imgay, AnonymousNarcotics MysticalMachineGun (3): Venom Soag, Kashuno, Kashuno (1): fiery_valkyrie iajanus (1): Quidnose, Kashuno, merk, bromplicated, Ixtlilton, bromplicated (1): CCKeane, MysticalMachineGun, SirSamVimes, Kashuno, Kommando (1): CCKeane, bromplicated, Bifauxnen (0): Kashuno, merk, Not Voting (7): HiipFire, iajanus, Kashuno, Little Mac, MysticalMachineGun, thatbastardken, Tremendous TasteWith 22 alive, it's 12 votes to lynch. The current deadline is November 14th, 2015 at 12:30 p.m. EST -- that's in about 2 hours, 37 minutes.
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Nov 14, 2015 00:52
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Quid I will give you a gentle kiss.
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Nov 14, 2015 00:55
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Kat Delacour posted:Alright so short version without fluff about apple bullshit Yeah, this right here is the biggest barrier to me accepting Quidnose's claim.
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Well, that and we have a handheld flip and a handheld claim, neither of which are on his list.
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Nov 14, 2015 00:56
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It's also obviously bullshit.
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Nov 14, 2015 00:57
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I guess I just see the best in people and assume if they are making a bullshit claim they will at least stick to their guns on the first claim and not undermine their own success by changing the rules.
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Nov 14, 2015 01:00
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Two handheld claims that weren't on his list
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Nov 14, 2015 01:01
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Quid's clearly lying sheesh. ##vote quid
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##vote quid
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Nov 14, 2015 01:02
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Are the two handheld claims iajanus and the Sony Xperia? Because the only one we've actually flipped IMO is a phone first. An original ipod has Snake on it but I wouldn't call it a handheld gaming device. We're possibly running into an acute case of Game Designer Opinions.
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Nov 14, 2015 01:03
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Why should we trust you when we've already lied once? I'd like a flavor claim though
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Nov 14, 2015 01:05
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I believe Anarc also claimed a handheld.
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Kat Delacour posted:Are the two handheld claims iajanus and the Sony Xperia? Bromp as well, gba
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Nov 14, 2015 01:06
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Kashuno posted:I'd like a flavor claim though Isn't day 2 a little early for claims?
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Nov 14, 2015 01:08
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That's -2 on Quid, -1 when I move over but I'm here all till deadline.
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Isn't day 2 a little early for claims? There's a reason for it
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Nov 14, 2015 01:08
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Kashuno posted:There's a reason for it What's the reason again?
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Nov 14, 2015 01:09
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Not voting quid unless it is to avoid a no lynch
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MysticalMachineGun posted:What's the reason again? Because I want to know
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The other two handhelds aside from the list provided by Quid. And yes Anarc said he was a handheld too, which would be very dangerous to say if it was a scum cover since if we flip Quid and he was telling the truth that just puts Anarc in the poo poo.
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