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Possibly Chicken posted:So I know a guy who took a nascar fan council survey, and nascar asked his opinion on putting basically the Chase in the xfinity series and not letting cup drivers race in the series. This would be awesome. A chase with no winners because of the Cup drivers.
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daslog posted:This would be awesome. A chase with no winners because of the Cup drivers. "So I know a guy who took a nascar fan council survey, and nascar asked his opinion on putting basically the Chase in the xfinity series and not letting cup drivers race in the series."
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Nov 12, 2015 22:51
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Ok, so if they ban Cup drivers, that frees up the 20, 22, 33, 54, and 88. Who gets them? If Blaney doesn't go to Cup, he's a given for the 22. The 54 has Erik Jones written all over it given he hasn't been named in KBM's Truck plans. I think Brandon Jones is going to RCR, which would take up the 33. The 88 could be a young driver merry-go-round. You'd figure Regan Smith has earned a ride somewhere; maybe JGR gives him a shot in the 20. All of this sponsorship-permitting, mind you. Wouldn't surprise me at all for Monster, who had said "We'll consider doing NXS again, too" to go "Welp, later" to JGR. daslog posted:This would be awesome. A chase with no winners because of the Cup drivers. It just dawned on me that the only way the Xfinity Chase is going to work without being the most ridiculous thing imaginable is to kick the Cup drivers. Which brings me to: Peanut President posted:"So I know a guy who took a nascar fan council survey, and nascar asked his opinion on putting basically the Chase in the xfinity series and not letting cup drivers race in the series." He misread that post, but you (and everybody here) know that probably wouldn't be the only scenario the geniuses at NASCAR would propose. Just spitballin'... CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Nov 12, 2015 |
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Nov 12, 2015 22:51
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I could've sworn JGR has already said that Erik Jones is full-time next year in Xfinity. And yeah, banning Cup drivers wouldn't mean young drivers fill those empty seats, it more than likely means those seats go away.
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Nov 12, 2015 23:00
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I mean is that so bad? If Grand National can't exist without cup drivers treating it as a glorified practice session, then why have it?
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Nov 12, 2015 23:18
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CBJSprague24 posted:Ok, so if they ban Cup drivers, that frees up the 20, 22, 33, 54, and 88. Who gets them? Yea I totally read that wrong. I have visions of an Xfinity chase with ineligible cup drivers mixed in and taking all the wins.
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Nov 12, 2015 23:23
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Top 12 in Xfinity points leaving Chicago which would've, in theory, been this year's cutoff race for the Chase. This does not account for Ryan Blaney, who won races and was eligible for points, but didn't run all the races (I assume they'd "give him an exemption"):quote:1 Chris Buescher (2 Wins) 945 JJ Yeley missed the Chase by two points. File that under "Things I never thought I'd say". In other news: quote:Casey Mears @CJMearsGang 55m55 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ Got some weird contracts being handed out this year, but good on Casey Mears.
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Nov 13, 2015 00:36
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Yes, but did he get AJ Allmendinger money? E: quote:Adam Stern
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Nov 13, 2015 00:40
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Peanut President posted:I mean is that so bad? If Grand National can't exist without cup drivers treating it as a glorified practice session, then why have it? nobody ever holds being a big fish in a small pond against Steve Kinser, wtf
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Nov 13, 2015 13:27
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Peanut President posted:I mean is that so bad? If Grand National can't exist without cup drivers treating it as a glorified practice session, then why have it? I don't think it's bad at all. There would be a couple years of small fields, but once teams realized that they'd have to cut costs big time if they wanted to survive I think the racing would be better and more competitive.
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VikingSkull posted:nobody ever holds being a big fish in a small pond against Steve Kinser, wtf Outlaws are a higher echelon of racing than any NASCAR series, lets be honest.
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Nov 13, 2015 20:28
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which is why Kinser gets called King without any hint of irony by those guys
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http://nascar.nbcsports.com/2015/11/13/when-brian-france-told-jeff-gordon-about-chase-format-in-2003-gordon-did-this/
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Boomer The Cannon posted:http://nascar.nbcsports.com/2015/11/13/when-brian-france-told-jeff-gordon-about-chase-format-in-2003-gordon-did-this/ I bet literally every driver thought the same thing.
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Nov 14, 2015 00:10
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Rico Abreu is making his trucks debut tonight, which is cool.
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Nov 14, 2015 02:15
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Is it a short track?
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Nov 14, 2015 02:39
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Hire Jeff Gordon to call bad ideas bad
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Sauter and Crafton in one fell swoop. I like it. Edit: Red flag for what?
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mischief posted:Sauter and Crafton in one fell swoop. 
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mischief posted:
NASCAR "fair play" heh.
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Boomer The Cannon posted:http://nascar.nbcsports.com/2015/11/13/when-brian-france-told-jeff-gordon-about-chase-format-in-2003-gordon-did-this/ gently caress your goddamn headline. When I Read Clickbait Headlines You'll Never Guess What I Did Next With This Axe.
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Peanut President posted:gently caress your goddamn headline. When I Read Clickbait Headlines You'll Never Guess What I Did Next With This Axe. Well I'm clicking your post cause I want to know what you'll do with that axe.
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Muddy Burphy posted:I don't think it's bad at all. There would be a couple years of small fields, but once teams realized that they'd have to cut costs big time if they wanted to survive I think the racing would be better and more competitive. This is close to my thoughts on the issue. Before Cup drivers completely took over the series, there were drivers who were series regulars that you would watch for. The Cup guys were kind of a cool addition at some of the bigger races, but 90% of the time you knew the "stars" of the series and it was different enough from the Cup races that it was interesting. Now, if you remove the Cup drivers, there will be an immediate loss of interest until the series can build itself back up from under the shadow of BushWackers.
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Boomer The Cannon posted:http://nascar.nbcsports.com/2015/11/13/when-brian-france-told-jeff-gordon-about-chase-format-in-2003-gordon-did-this/ The best. Peanut President posted:gently caress your goddamn headline. When I Read Clickbait Headlines You'll Never Guess What I Did Next With This Axe. Why, yes. Your views interest me and I will click here for more information.
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SpitztheGreat posted:This is close to my thoughts on the issue. Before Cup drivers completely took over the series, there were drivers who were series regulars that you would watch for. The Cup guys were kind of a cool addition at some of the bigger races, but 90% of the time you knew the "stars" of the series and it was different enough from the Cup races that it was interesting. Now, if you remove the Cup drivers, there will be an immediate loss of interest until the series can build itself back up from under the shadow of BushWackers. Plus with the smaller fields you'd actually get guys from the area that would put a car together and go. At least when they would be in New Hampshire you'd get guys that were racing Busch North put a Busch car together, throw Teddy Christopher in the seat and try to make it. Then Teddy would wreck somebody on lap 3 and they'd park it for the day but it was always kind of exciting to see a local guy try and make the field.
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Q: Do I make you Hornish? A: Apparently for Richard Petty Motorsports, the answer is No for 2016.
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SpitztheGreat posted:This is close to my thoughts on the issue. Before Cup drivers completely took over the series, there were drivers who were series regulars that you would watch for. The Cup guys were kind of a cool addition at some of the bigger races, but 90% of the time you knew the "stars" of the series and it was different enough from the Cup races that it was interesting. Now, if you remove the Cup drivers, there will be an immediate loss of interest until the series can build itself back up from under the shadow of BushWackers. Back in my day, and Christ it makes me feel old to use that saying, you would have three different fields of drivers in the three top series. The best drivers in Cup were Gordon, Earnhardt, Martin, Jarrett, Labonte, etc. Busch had Bodine, LaJoie, McLaughlin, and Green. Trucks had Sprague, Hornaday, Bickle, and Ruttman. You would see Buschwhacker involvement in Busch, and to a much lesser extent Trucks, but it was nowhere near as a rampant as it's been since 04. Both lower series were a mix of up and comers and Cup washouts. The charm of each was they had somewhere to go race and be competitive, often with a solid chance of beating the Cup drivers. Of course, if NASCAR leaves Cup drivers eligible and adds a Chase, I'm probably never watching the Xfinity Series again.
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nascar/2015/11/12/nascar-teams-watch-garage-spies/75676522/
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CBJSprague24 posted:Back in my day, and Christ it makes me feel old to use that saying, you would have three different fields of drivers in the three top series. The best drivers in Cup were Gordon, Earnhardt, Martin, Jarrett, Labonte, etc. Busch had Bodine, LaJoie, McLaughlin, and Green. Trucks had Sprague, Hornaday, Bickle, and Ruttman. This is the way I recall it as well - each of the three series had a unique identity based on their stars. These days, XFINITY is just Cup with worse paint schemes and more lapped traffic. EDIT: Boomer The Cannon posted:http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nascar/2015/11/12/nascar-teams-watch-garage-spies/75676522/ I need to find a way to sell information from Levine Family Racing to Premium Motorsports. LASTCAR fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Nov 14, 2015 |
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CBJSprague24 posted:Back in my day, and Christ it makes me feel old to use that saying, you would have three different fields of drivers in the three top series. The best drivers in Cup were Gordon, Earnhardt, Martin, Jarrett, Labonte, etc. Busch had Bodine, LaJoie, McLaughlin, and Green. Trucks had Sprague, Hornaday, Bickle, and Ruttman. well back in my day there were Busch races that had more Cup drivers than Busch drivers, so I dunno
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Nov 15, 2015 13:28
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yeah but GNS was like, barely a national series in the 80s, people are mainly talking about like, 1993-2005-ish when you actually had fairly decent-budget Busch operations going around and a cast of regulars alongside the regular Mark Martin stompings.
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Nov 15, 2015 13:31
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well, considering the series started in 1950, pining for a 12 year window when things weren't like they were before or since seems rather silly e- if someone has the patience and skill to look, I'll bet the first year that series had every race televised was around the time Dale Jr. was in the series and you had Cup guys in every race
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Nov 15, 2015 13:42
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I'm pretty sure that it was around 1993, when TNN got into NASCAR and were putting as much of it on as they could- before that, ESPN would show Daytona, Charlotte, IRP (used to be one of the biggest Busch weekends of the year), and a few other assorted races.
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Nov 15, 2015 13:59
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And yeah, of course people are going to pine for the golden period of the series. And the thing is, prior to that, the series at least had the excuse of being small-time. Right now, it's the worst of both worlds, where they don't have any of the old-school GNS flavor of being a regional, short-track-based series that only sometimes raced at superspeedways, but also the field quality stinks.
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Nov 15, 2015 14:02
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In a day when even Cup has most of their races on cable, I'd rather have televised Xfinity loaded with Cup guys on TV over no Cup guys and no TV. National short track series like ARCA don't have all their races televised, and stuff like USAC and WoO are barely televised.
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VikingSkull posted:In a day when even Cup has most of their races on cable, I'd rather have televised Xfinity loaded with Cup guys on TV over no Cup guys and no TV. National short track series like ARCA don't have all their races televised, and stuff like USAC and WoO are barely televised. Who cares if GN is televised if nobody watches it?
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Nov 15, 2015 19:55
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Why is it that it only rains in Arizona and Nevada when NASCAR comes to town?
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CBJSprague24 posted:Why is it that it only rains in Arizona and Nevada when NASCAR comes to town? Remember when Georga was going through such a drought that it was a national story and then there was water in the gasoline at Atlanta? 
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November 15, 1992: Jeff Gordon makes his Winston Cup debut in Richard Petty's final race. November 15, 2015: Ryan Ellis makes his Sprint Cup debut in Jeff Gordon's next-to-last race.
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