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Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011




Hahaha

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Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Here are people who are excited for Jeb!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upER_inRqrg

nachos
Jun 27, 2004

Wario Chalmers! WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
I do like that 538 called out their own site at the end of that graph's article

quote:

And second, as is always a problem in analysis of presidential campaigns, we don’t have all that many data points, so unprecedented events can occur with some regularity.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Powercrazy posted:

I don't understand what those lines represent?

The way to read it is to examine the slope of the line, which is the rate of growth of Google searches over time.

Rocks
Dec 30, 2011

in other words, 100% of all google searches are election related 20 weeks after the iowa caucuses.

Xenophon
Jun 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
Grimey Drawer


Now that's just an unfortunate camera angle/bit of signage

Rocks
Dec 30, 2011

Joementum posted:

Here are people who are excited for Jeb!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upER_inRqrg

token black guy spotted at 0:30

Fox Ironic
Jul 19, 2012

by exmarx

Powercrazy posted:

Pretty sure it was just the standard lifecycle of going from Sarcasm -> Sincere Belief. /pol/ was originally created to mock freep. Now they are a distinct culture that doesn't like freep, but are hardly better and barely distinguishable.

4chan, in its entirety, is a pretty classic example of Poe's Law. In my experience a good 75% of the site is satire or outright trolling, but the remaining 25% is composed of people who take that 75% entirely seriously.

Interestingly, the self-destruction caused by the spread of those memes leads to my thesis that 4chan was specifically created to trap and neutralize edgelords in a echo chamber of their own madness.

Edit: unfortunately, the side effects of this neutralization sometimes reverses the intended result, leading to surreal events of violence and other types of actualized darkness such as Mass Shootings, Doxxing/Harassment and sexual assaults.

Fox Ironic fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Nov 23, 2015

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

Cool, where are the 2015 numbers?

Where's social media numbers? The debate ratings?

Jesus Christ 538 is insufferable on this point. More people are paying attention, get your head out of the sand.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Isn't pol a quarantine board like Pokemon and ponies?

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Montasque posted:

Cool, where are the 2015 numbers?
There are slight causality issues with determining the total amount of searches that will be made on Google re: the 2016 primary campaign four or five months before it's concluded.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Joementum posted:

The way to read it is to examine the slope of the line, which is the rate of growth of Google searches over time.

So basically a week or so before Iowa, there is an explosive growth of election related google searches which peaks in about 20 weeks. Then I guess everyone who is interested in the presidential election searches about the same amount for election related news, presumably until the primary ends.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Montasque posted:

Cool, where are the 2015 numbers?

There are obvious difficulties with comparing current search trends with those after the 2016 Iowa Caucuses.

Twitter and Facebook interest traffic from 2007 is also problematic.

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

Pinterest Mom posted:

There are slight causality issues with determining the total amount of searches that will be made on Google re: the 2016 primary campaign four or five months before it's concluded.

True, but I will point to debate ratings and social media traffic as signs that more people are in fact paying attention this cycle.


EDIT:

Joementum posted:

There are obvious difficulties with comparing current search trends with those after the 2016 Iowa Caucuses.

Twitter and Facebook interest traffic from 2007 is also problematic.

The point I was trying to make is that judging this cycle against the past two is idiotic. There is an honest to god celebrity running this time who is a media attention generating machine.

Montasque fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Nov 23, 2015

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

r/pol

Rand Paul

Rand/Pol

Folks I think I found something.

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


Angrymantium posted:

It was full of Paultards in 2008 and 2012, and 4chan being what it is it always had the "lol Hitler" demographic of teenagers/college students. Those people grew up to leave libertarian ideology behind to focus on one that would support the vitriol they have for all the "sjw" people ruining america, or basically what the trump campaign has become.

Basically a Big Guy that advocates violence against liberal protestors and wants to either throw non-whites out of the country or track their every move is /pol/ incarnate.

So in short 4chan is awful and that is just distilled by /pol/?

I wonder what the Trump-supporter/Gamergate-believer overlap is.

Wanamingo
Feb 22, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

quote:

Wednesday's prime time GOP debate averaged 23.1 million viewers, making it the most-watched program in CNN's history.

The 6 p.m. "undercard" debate drew 6.3 million viewers.

These are NFL-level ratings -- affirming that the Donald Trump fueled Republican debate slate is one of the most popular television shows of the year.

For comparison's sake, CNN's most-watched presidential primary debate before Wednesday was a Democratic debate on January 31, 2008. It had an average of 8.3 million viewers.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/17/media/cnn-republican-debate-ratings/

Fuckin 538

Zelder
Jan 4, 2012

a cop posted:

Are you kidding?

No?

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

oh sorry guys, donald trump merely implied mexicans are all murderes and rapists, he never outright stated it. this is a very important distinction to make and not hand wringing by white people over their love of the racist bully running for president

nachos
Jun 27, 2004

Wario Chalmers! WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Google is used less in general as more people use mobile devices. I don't know if that translates to older and more likely voters but it speaks to an overall trend of less searching which makes pure google searches less accurate as a measure of interest.

SuperDucky
May 13, 2007

by exmarx

Shifty Pony posted:

So in short 4chan is awful and that is just distilled by /pol/?

I wonder what the Donald "The American dream is dead" Trump-supporter/Gamergate-believer overlap is.
A lot.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Joementum posted:

Here are people who are excited for Jeb!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upER_inRqrg

They're excited for him to fix things.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Interest in "republican primary" is a bit lower now than it was this time in 2007 (18 vs 20): https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=republican%20primary though there was a spike in August, which fell off in September and October.

Bethamphetamine
Oct 29, 2012

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/11/23/ben-carson-supporters-cite-vulgar-attacks-in-seeking-donations/

quote:

Supporters of Ben Carson, with his strength in the polls showing signs of fading, lashed out at critics and the national media in a fund-raising plea on Monday that they hope will reinvigorate his campaign.

“Ben Carson has been completely under siege from the dishonest national mainstream media these last few weeks,” John Philip Sousa IV, chairman of the 2016 Committee, a “super PAC” that backs the Republican presidential candidate, wrote in an email to supporters. “The vulgar, personal attacks are some of the most vicious I’ve ever seen in politics.”

Mr. Carson, a retired neurosurgeon, was riding a wave of popularity just a month ago as voters in Iowa and across the country were captivated by his soft-spoken, conservative message. But greater scrutiny of his biography and his knowledge of foreign policy has eaten away at his support as national security has become a dominant issue.

Please donate to our Carson-friendly superPAC. America needs his Gifted Hands to surgically remove political correctness from our country.
Only your money can protect Friend Ben from vicious media attacks like "he is provably, factually wrong about things he himself chooses to talk about."

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Shifty Pony posted:

So in short 4chan is awful and that is just distilled by /pol/?

I wonder what the Trump-supporter/Gamergate-believer overlap is.

The gamergaters were so annoying that the vast majority were driven off of 4chan and kept off, a distinction shared only with child pornography posters.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Shifty Pony posted:

So in short 4chan is awful and that is just distilled by /pol/?

I wonder what the Trump-supporter/Gamergate-believer overlap is.

1:1

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Montasque posted:

His crowd are turning into rabid maniacs. /pol/ are now calling themselves the Trumpstaffel for are doxxing enemies of the Donald.

EDIT. I almost forgot... They made this:



maybe i have watched to much Man in the High Castle and game of thrones. But i realy dont want a fascist old joffrey with gold to spare and fantical supporters in the presidents seat.


Shifty Pony posted:

When exactly did /pol/ become freep 2.0?

awhile ago, when tumblr/twitter started up and started becoming pants on head retards about left stuff, /pol/ ironicaly became nazis/facists/whatever to troll them, then they eventually dropped the Irony.

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

Three Olives posted:

Trump is factually a racist piece of poo poo, what is with the media's insistence on the nuances of his racism? Trump is a racist, period, there is no more explination needed.

Wrong. "That's racist" needs to be the beginning of a conversation, not the end. Trump is being racist, what does that mean and what should we do about it?

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Google Consumer survey of knowledge of recent gaffes:

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

blue squares posted:

Wrong. "That's racist" needs to be the beginning of a conversation, not the end. Trump is being racist, what does that mean and what should we do about it?

it means your country is sick and you should all pray he never becomes president

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

Joementum posted:

Interest in "republican primary" is a bit lower now than it was this time in 2007 (18 vs 20): https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=republican%20primary though there was a spike in August, which fell off in September and October.

https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=Donald%20Trump%2C%20Republican%20primary&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT%2B5

Nolan Arenado
May 8, 2009

nachos posted:

Google is used less in general as more people use mobile devices. I don't know if that translates to older and more likely voters but it speaks to an overall trend of less searching which makes pure google searches less accurate as a measure of interest.

I feel like people under 30 go to twitter to find out the latest news on a subject, they aren't using google loving news. And even a lot of older people are doing this, since I'm sure someone will say people under 30 don't vote so they can be ignored. In addition to that, a lot of the younger people using twitter are talking to the older people about what they see and hear, so it's still spreading.

I see no way to accurately measure potential voter interest in 2015 and compare it to past elections. Trying to do it is just going to make you look foolish one way or the other.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

fishmech posted:

The gamergaters were so annoying that the vast majority were driven off of 4chan and kept off, a distinction shared only with child pornography posters.

pretty much, all the hardcore GG and /pol/ people along with a decent amount of cp creeps fled to 8chan which actualy helped clean up 4chan quite a bit. I mean its still 4chan, but its somewhat less awful.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

And yet interest in him doesn't appear to be translating to a proportional share of the vote.

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib

babypolis posted:

oh sorry guys, donald trump merely implied mexicans are all murderes and rapists, he never outright stated it. this is a very important distinction to make and not hand wringing by white people over their love of the racist bully running for president

Look, here's the thing. Trump said that Mexico was sending rapists and murderers over the border, not that all Mexicans are murderers or rapists, or that all Mexican immigrants were murderers and rapists. He has explicitly said that not all of them were. Again, if you want these attacks to stick, you can't make accusations that are so easily dismissed like that, because if the first sentences out of your mouth are so easily shown incorrect then any Trump supporters or anyone on the fence will dismiss the rest of what you have to say. Now, I know you don't care about appealing to Trump supporters, but preaching to the choir gains you nothing, you have to sway the people who haven't made a decision one way or another if you want to eat away at Trump's support base.

Or you could keep calling Trump a megahitler nazcist and feel great about yourself even as you get completely ignored by moderates and independents.

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

Joementum posted:

And yet interest in him doesn't appear to be translating to a proportional share of the vote.



True, but regardless that fact, more people ARE paying attention this cycle.

Wanamingo
Feb 22, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Joementum posted:

And yet interest in him doesn't appear to be translating to a proportional share of the vote.



Who said anything about the vote?

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


Dapper_Swindler posted:

pretty much, all the hardcore GG and /pol/ people along with a decent amount of cp creeps fled to 8chan which actualy helped clean up 4chan quite a bit. I mean its still 4chan, but its somewhat less awful.

I didn't know they got run off 4chan but I know they have a pretty heavy reddit presence now as well.

The day the admins finally banhammer kotakuinaction for harassment and brigading other subreddits is going to be quite amusing to watch.

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Not a single fucking olive in sight

blue squares posted:

Wrong. "That's racist" needs to be the beginning of a conversation, not the end. Trump is being racist, what does that mean and what should we do about it?

I'm pretty sure it just means Trump is a racist rear end in a top hat and should be shunned by polite society along with his supporters.

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Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound

Do It Once Right posted:

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/11/23/ben-carson-supporters-cite-vulgar-attacks-in-seeking-donations/


Please donate to our Carson-friendly superPAC. America needs his Gifted Hands to surgically remove political correctness from our country.
Only your money can protect Friend Ben from vicious media attacks like "he is provably, factually wrong about things he himself chooses to talk about."

Wait a second. Wait. Hold up. Hold the phone here.

John Philip Sousa IV ?

Is Carson backed by Big Sousaphone here, or are the Illuminati waaaaay less cool than I had ever begin to suspect

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