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zedprime posted:The fake identity wasn't purposeful, its implied he lightning rodded Zack's lifeforce before it could return to the lifestream and until he gets his consciousness sorted back out he's operating in a strange state of being where Cloud, Zack, and Jenova are all but arguing in his head over what to do at certain points. Cloud took some credit for the fake identity. quote:Red XIII: Don't say anything, Cloud. All you've been doing is apologizing. It's implied that Cloud becoming Zack in his mind was due to a large part because he wanted to be Zack and didn't want to be himself. That's why Tifa brought him out of it by showing that his real self wasn't so bad. It was important for them to see in the dream that when they were kids, he thought she didn't pay any attention to him. He was lonely because they didn't invite him to be a part of their group. (She helps him through that memory by telling him that she thought about him a lot after he left town) It was also important for them to see and talk about Cloud feeling guilty for not stopping her from falling off of a cliff and going into a coma. He said he felt she blamed him. Then because he thought he was too weak, he tried to join Soldier to get tougher and couldn't even get in. That's all important for why he believed he was Zack. I would classify him as a bit sad brains, yeah. I love that Cloud is insecure and he's not a perfect action hero. If it was shown to me that he was always a confident guy with no emotional baggage, that would really lessen my opinion on the game. But based on the above dialogue, the whole dream sequence, and later with TIfa where he's still having trouble telling her how he feels, I don't see how that could be the case.
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I found a guy in LR who I swear is playing the theme from Daguerro from FF9 on a guitar.
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Dec 11, 2015 04:16
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Fister Roboto posted:I found a guy in LR who I swear is playing the theme from Daguerro from FF9 on a guitar. I wouldn't be surprised. There are quite a few musical homages hidden (or not so hidden in some cases) in the game.
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Dec 11, 2015 04:21
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Lightning Returns is great because from the very beginning of the game Lightning just straight out proclaims that if god fucks her on their deal, she'll gently caress him back.
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Dec 11, 2015 04:23
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Fister Roboto posted:I found a guy in LR who I swear is playing the theme from Daguerro from FF9 on a guitar. Yep. There's a dude playing Battle on the Big Bridge too.
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Dec 11, 2015 04:23
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ImpAtom posted:Yep. There's a dude playing Battle on the Big Bridge too. And you can find people playing Terra's Theme also.
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Dec 11, 2015 04:39
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I really liked Cloud because he was just an everyday sort of guy. He saw himself as a bit of a loser, but he rose up to the challenge of being put into a crazy situation and came out of it a better person. It reminds me of the Middle-Earth books where it's been said that Tolkien considered Sam to be the one of most heroic characters, because he was just a really humble little guy who did great things.
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Dec 11, 2015 06:02
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The revelation Cloud was just a little dork who wanted to impress a girl does go a long way to making him endearing. I like him more because of the whole psychological aspect and identity crisis but the Lifestream flashbacks are really good. When Cloud removes his Shinra helmet, that was one of my fondest memories from my first time playing FFVII. The music lined up perfectly for it and everything.
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Dec 11, 2015 06:24
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I'm playing LR with an Xbox controller and both triggers are mapped to LT so I can't use libra, it does overclock instead. Anyone else having this problem? Edit: I figured it out, I had to install an old driver to make it work with 13-2 and now LR wants the up to date version instead. PC gaming! Tempo 119 fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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Dec 11, 2015 06:30
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Egh, I think I might have gotten myself into a near-unwinnable state in the Dunes. I found some thing underground and now the only way out is to fight two enemies, but I'm at 900 health with no items. Hopefully I can find some configuration of DLC stuff that lets me survive, cause I've been trying over and over to no avail. Are enemies considered Staggered for only a single hit? I noticed the Slayer option for the Cloud costume went away if I didn't use it immediately.
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Momomo posted:Egh, I think I might have gotten myself into a near-unwinnable state in the Dunes. I found some thing underground and now the only way out is to fight two enemies, but I'm at 900 health with no items. Hopefully I can find some configuration of DLC stuff that lets me survive, cause I've been trying over and over to no avail. Do you have any EP? You can heal yourself with Curaga. You can also wait until Hope calls you back to the Ark.
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Dec 11, 2015 06:42
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I don't remember- do you still have to fight them even if you flee the battle?
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Dec 11, 2015 06:45
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I only have one EP, and don't really want to waste the entire day (it's like noon) even if it doesn't matter in the long run. Fleeing the battle doesn't let you skip past them either, unfortunately.
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Dec 11, 2015 06:59
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All this CC talk makes me want to finally play it. Can it be purchased on a Vita/PSTV?
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Dec 11, 2015 07:26
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im pretty sure it's umd only because square is weird sometimes
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Dec 11, 2015 07:28
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Well poo poo.
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Dec 11, 2015 07:30
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Completely unrelated question, are there any reliable PSP emulators?
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yeah ppsspp it's called
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ppsspp is amazing
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Cake Attack posted:im pretty sure it's umd only because square is weird sometimes Gackt License, I heard. Is there a general progression path in LR, because I'm pretty sure every enemy encounter is not supposed to be a boss fight to the point that I have to constantly replenish resources every fight.
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Dec 11, 2015 07:40
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Tae posted:Gackt License, I heard. the fights get harder each day, so you're supposed to be able to do it in whatever order you want, but there are fewer enemies in two city storylines, so you may want to start there. the quest rewards will help you better deal with the combat-focused wildlands and desert areas. try to learn how to stagger stuff effectively -- usually enemies have a special condition that gives a bunch of stagger, but magic also always works well (especially if you hit what they're weak to). countering attacks and spell-casting is always effective. and debuffs are crazy effective, just like in 13 -- when i played i had a dedicated debuffing schemata, but you can mix them up if you like.
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Dec 11, 2015 07:53
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Well, that was my main problem then. I'm in Wetlands fighting the mecha bugs (those lovely thing have like a billion hp) and behemoths.
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Dec 11, 2015 07:55
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ok, yeah, behemoths are bad news and really are equivalent to most early boss fights. you are supposed to avoid those until later, because they will wreck you. the insects however are just really physical resistant iirc -- if you use elemental stuff on them they'll go down faster, but they're still worth avoiding until later. it seems weird at first but remember that all you get from fights is magic and EP, not stats, so if there's an enemy giving you trouble then you can just avoid fighting it and suffer no penalties. you can always come back later and grab whatever skills it drops.
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Yeah, those bugs only appear for like an hour a day, but they're huge slogs when you first start.corn in the bible posted:the fights get harder each day, so you're supposed to be able to do it in whatever order you want, but there are fewer enemies in two city storylines, so you may want to start there. the quest rewards will help you better deal with the combat-focused wildlands and desert areas. To be precise, I don't think the enemies get stronger every day, just at certain points. Like, after 7 days, and again after 10 or something. I don't recall the specifics. I recommend people play their first run on easy. There's really no serious downsides, you regenerate health between fights so healing isn't such a pain, and you get more EP, meaning it's easier to freeze time and there's less time pressure to get everything done. Plus, I think a lot of people will be surprised how challenging the game can be until you really get the hang of it. Other recommendations-
I dunno, there's probably other stuff. I haven't played it in a long time.
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zedprime posted:The fake identity wasn't purposeful, its implied he lightning rodded Zack's lifeforce before it could return to the lifestream and until he gets his consciousness sorted back out he's operating in a strange state of being where Cloud, Zack, and Jenova are all but arguing in his head over what to do at certain points. I'm gonna take this as literal and assume the Barrett date option is due to Jenova having a thing for him.
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Tae posted:Gackt License, I heard. Gackt continues to be the worst thing that ever happened to the Final Fantasy VII universe. Crisis Core is a great game if I do everything I can to ignore anything involving Genesis. What a poo poo character.
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Tempo 119 posted:I'm playing LR with an Xbox controller and both triggers are mapped to LT so I can't use libra, it does overclock instead. Anyone else having this problem? What driver? You just plug the controller in and it works.
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Tae posted:Gackt License, I heard. It's Ayaka, not Gackt. The dude just provided his voice for the game, he has little to do with the game otherwise. Ayaka has the same kind of thing that Hikaru Utada does with the KH games that because of their music it prevents the game's from digital distribution.
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Schwartzcough posted:Yeah, those bugs only appear for like an hour a day, but they're huge slogs when you first start. I too recommend easy on the first go. Normal is pretty unforgiving. It should've been Hard mode. As the days go on different enemies start appearing in areas, but it's relatively minor. The big thing is that after day 7 or so, every level's final boss basically gets an upgraded form and new attacks. I'm pretty sure it's to punish you from grinding in the beginning of the game just to finish them all off towards the end. Why Square felt that was needed is anyone's guess. If you play normal you'll have quite a few days buffer. I don't think there's a good ending, just succeed/fail. But a lot of the best gear and a secret dungeon opens up if you've completed all the main levels by, I forget which day.
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Normal seems like a perfectly fair challenge. And for my second playthrough I'm going to try and beat all the Day 7 bosses this time, because you get cooler loot.
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Here's a screenshot from the PC release of Lightning Returns See if you can spot something that doesn't belong 
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Can't say I notice anything other than Lightning Returns Final Fantasy XIII automatically saves your progress
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Dec 11, 2015 15:12
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I love not turning off my ps3 when playing on pc so it doesn't bother me
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Dec 11, 2015 15:13
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What times we live in where the game is automatically saved. Now you no longer have to worry about losing progress if the power goes out. Unless the power goes out while saving then you're hosed.
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Tae posted:Is there a general progression path in LR, because I'm pretty sure every enemy encounter is not supposed to be a boss fight to the point that I have to constantly replenish resources every fight. Every enemy requires some strategy fighting anything head on is always really hard. There is always some weakness or trick for like 90% of the enemies, the number that you just stand there and hit attack, attack, attack like a regular final fantaay game is extremely small.
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The Grimace posted:Gackt continues to be the worst thing that ever happened to the Final Fantasy VII universe. Crisis Core is a great game if I do everything I can to ignore anything involving Genesis. What a poo poo character. He's not that bad. Thinking back on it now, part of why he turns into such a weirdo and gets so obsessed with the poem is probably because he's literally dying, and as he goes crazier and crazier his mind latches onto something to obsess over and to take hope from. I know a lot of people wish there would have been some other main villain for Crisis Core, but the only things canonically going on from what FF7 tells us of that time was the Wutai War and the original AVALANCHE, which the Before Crisis cell phone game already was dealing with at the same time as Zack was doing stuff. They had to invent some kind of villain and plot for the game other than "war, then the actual core of the crisis with sephiroth going butt crazy, then zack and cloud busting out, then zack dying and cloud limping to midgar", because otherwise I think it'd resemble a call of duty game.
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Baal posted:What times we live in where the game is automatically saved. Now you no longer have to worry about losing progress if the power goes out. Unless the power goes out while saving then you're hosed. imo you should check out the last paragraph in that screenshot
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Instant Grat posted:imo you should check out the last paragraph in that screenshot I did and I'm still confused. Seems a pretty clear message about autosaving on your Lightning Waifu videogame?
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Instant Grat posted:imo you should check out the last paragraph in that screenshot when you see it, you'll poo poo bricks
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Instant Grat posted:What driver? You just plug the controller in and it works. Normally yes but for some reason FF13-2 + Xbox One controller + Windows 10 ("the bad decision combo") didn't work and I ended up having to install an old Windows 8 driver.
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