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SoapyTarantula
Jun 3, 2011

Lipstick Apathy

Mitt Romney posted:

Can you accelerate time when using the economy plugin?

Yes, though they do have a simulated flight hour cap to prevent abuse. You can only fly 30 "simulator hours" within 48 real hours on a rolling clock setup. The website itself manages it, you'll find it on the top right of most of the pages. It plays fine with up to 16x time acceleration IIRC but might handle more.

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EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
16x is the limit. There's no way in hell I'd bother with FSE if I had to do it all in real time.

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

Nevermind, I gotta repair the Corvallis to make it able to take jobs.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Before setting up jobs you might want to see what kind of planes are available. I was super thrilled when you set up jobs out of CNK4 until I saw how few aircraft there are in the area that are up to the task.

INTJ Mastermind
Dec 30, 2004

It's a radial!

EvilJoven posted:

Sorry duder but you start as a pauper renting planes and flying PAX and crates from podunk town to podunk town in planes so small the on board deicing equipment is a big loving stick you keep in the plane to pound the ice off the wings between stops.

Edit: basically if you don't find GA fun this might not be your thing. Fortunately for me I love GA and when I want to get all fancy there are a few jobs to be done in the Citation X.

The thing is, no one forces you to start off as a pauper. You can rent any plane available as the fees are deducted from your jobs' income. A 0-hour newbie can rent and make money in a Falcon 7X as long as he has the jobs to fill it.

Single-engine piston / turboprop aircraft are preferred if you're serious about min-maxing your earnings, as they have the least cost per seat-mile. And your virtual passengers don't care whether they're riding in a Cessna 172 vs a Citation. Everyone tends to gravitate towards the C206, C208 and PC-12 for that reason.

The way the job payments are structured, you make more for farther jobs, but the income per mile drops off as the distance increases. Your fixed costs/nm in terms of fuel and maintenance stay the same of course. This kind of helps out the small guy making a bunch of 50 nm hops, vs one long 400 nm flight.

But just fly what makes you happy, it's just a silly metagame for virtual sky dollars. You can chase the money by going direct GPS and 16x time acc after wheels up, or fly with online ATC using real world procedures, or whatever. You can even fly a helicopter if you don't care that everything costs 2-3x more than fixed wing (just like IRL).

I'm still far away from buying a plane, but my ride of choice is a King Air 200, for which there are plenty of rentals. I'm thinking of getting a Baron from the Carenado sale for local SoCal flights on PilotEdge.

INTJ Mastermind fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Dec 10, 2015

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




It's fun how FSE sends you to places where you wouldn't go normally. I took a two-stop job that ended up on a tiny grass airstrip in Denmark. Had to circle around two times before I managed to make a good landing.

SoapyTarantula
Jun 3, 2011

Lipstick Apathy

EvilJoven posted:

Before setting up jobs you might want to see what kind of planes are available. I was super thrilled when you set up jobs out of CNK4 until I saw how few aircraft there are in the area that are up to the task.

Yeah, my bad. I'll leave the jobs available just in case something capable shows up there. But I'll pay more attention to aircraft at the departing location next time.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Ya doing the flight on VATSIM along with real world weather means it stays interesting rather than just setting your GPS and time accelerating while watching TV.

It's also why rather than just scrapping my flight and not touching that A-26 again I added that old timey needs a ton of hand holding AP to it.

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


This may seem like a weird question, but I need a picture of the location of a Boeing 747 -200 autopilot console for an increasingly annoying and specific paper. Is there a free one with a fully modeled cockpit somewhere that I could throw into a demo of X-Plane to grab a screenshot of it? A search for an actual legible picture of a real one turned up nothing.

Mr Luxury Yacht fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Dec 10, 2015

u fink u hard Percy
Sep 14, 2007

Try searching for MCP instead.

http://www.avsim.com/pages/0603/747rfp/main-panel-new-fma-illumina.jpg?

u fink u hard Percy fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Dec 10, 2015

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012



Awesome, that helps a ton. Thanks!

Mr Luxury Yacht fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Dec 10, 2015

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
So for the XP10 Saab 340A I have a whole bunch of charts that give cruise speeds, fuel loads, etc for the plane at varying levels of weight, trip length, and ISA. i get that ISA is the baseline standard atmospere pressure and temperature and I have a different chart for ISA, ISA -20C and ISA +20C. My question is if there is a way to quickly figure out which level of ISA I should be using when planning a route when using real world weather. Is there a website or something that quickly shows this? Or do I have to actually look at atmosphere temperatures and whatnot?

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




Goetta posted:

So for the XP10 Saab 340A I have a whole bunch of charts that give cruise speeds, fuel loads, etc for the plane at varying levels of weight, trip length, and ISA. i get that ISA is the baseline standard atmospere pressure and temperature and I have a different chart for ISA, ISA -20C and ISA +20C. My question is if there is a way to quickly figure out which level of ISA I should be using when planning a route when using real world weather. Is there a website or something that quickly shows this? Or do I have to actually look at atmosphere temperatures and whatnot?

You tune to the ATIS radio frequency of the airfield and they tell you. Before takeoff at the departure field and then in flight during the arrival.

EDIT: or maybe I misunderstood your question.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
So there's a huge Carenado sale. What would be a few good ones to pick up that would be useful in FSE and fun to play with?

ZekeNY
Jun 13, 2013

Probably AFK

EvilJoven posted:

So there's a huge Carenado sale. What would be a few good ones to pick up that would be useful in FSE and fun to play with?

I don't know about FSE, but I picked up their B1900, and it seems to be fun to play around with.

Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

You know where you are? You're in the suburbs, baby. You're gonna drive.

Yeah, the carenado B1900 is pretty ace.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
For tooling about in their old Cessnas are pretty good for the cost, if that's what you're into.

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


Kilonum posted:

Yeah, the carenado B1900 is pretty ace.

Yeah this x1100

concise
Aug 31, 2004

Ain't much to do
'round here.

Forums Terrorist posted:

wonkotron you are really salty about people not liking bms for some reason

I suffer from sunk cost fallacy, both in learning BMS and the time spent teaching people to set up and play BMS who eventually gave up for whatever reason. Also I guess I'm tired of the endless bitching about sims that would be great if only there was a game behind them, like if they had a dynamic campaign, but instead are poo poo (e.g BOS).

Shanakin
Mar 26, 2010

The whole point of stats are lost if you keep it a secret. Why Didn't you tell the world eh?
Actually had a pretty good time in BoS multiplayer last time I loaded it up. There's some pretty neat scenarios running now.

Lockmart Lawndart
Oct 12, 2005

Shanakin posted:

Actually had a pretty good time in BoS multiplayer last time I loaded it up. There's some pretty neat scenarios running now.

Well, I'd argue that Cliffs of Dover is way better than BOS if we're just talking about multiplayer.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
The A-26 Ive been flying a lot in FSE now has an AP radio compass and VOR in the VC.

Also, I needed to download an AC500. Not only is the one linked in the OP a mess from a simulator standpoint, its designed to look like a piece of poo poo.

I spent far too long trying to fix the fuel selectors while retaining the rotation animation of the knobs (finally gave up on that bullshit) but at least you can cold dark it now and actually use all the gas in the tanks. Next up is fixing the click points for a bunch of poo poo that's impossible to use in the VC.

I'm noticing a trend. Any plane so far I've downloaded thats not written specifically for FSX has hosed fuel selectors. They also changed how the starters work and when you use the toggle ones most engines won't reach the minimum 400rpms needed to fire up.

If anyone has a plane they want unfucked let me know and I can probably fix it.

SoapyTarantula
Jun 3, 2011

Lipstick Apathy
So 10% of assignment fee taken by the group definitely isn't enough to cover costs seeing as I didn't take FBO fees into account. So if those of you in the group are cool with it I'll raise it to 20%. Or I can keep funneling fakeplanebucks into it from my own account.

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




SoapyTarantula posted:

So 10% of assignment fee taken by the group definitely isn't enough to cover costs seeing as I didn't take FBO fees into account. So if those of you in the group are cool with it I'll raise it to 20%. Or I can keep funneling fakeplanebucks into it from my own account.

Go ahead. I'm not that greedy for fake money.
Besides, I usually accidentally fly half my flights out of Goon Air because I forget to click the "fly for Goon Air" thing.

u fink u hard Percy
Sep 14, 2007

EvilJoven posted:

Also, I needed to download an AC500. Not only is the one linked in the OP a mess from a simulator standpoint, its designed to look like a piece of poo poo.

If anyone has a plane they want unfucked let me know and I can probably fix it.

Carenado have got an AC500 in the works, I'm pretty stoked.

How far did you get with the Basler? I'd like updated :filez: if you have them, but you should post them all anyway.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Oh I found out a long time ago that the Basler is fine with FSX steam as long as it isn't in that side by side with a boxed copy install. It won't work with P3D.

Also aside from the extra missions how do groups work?

SoapyTarantula
Jun 3, 2011

Lipstick Apathy

EvilJoven posted:

Also aside from the extra missions how do groups work?

Assuming you're talking about FSE groups, its pretty much just another way of flying under one name and pooling money together. The group can buy aircraft and FBOs for everyone in it to use. That's pretty much it unless you do some Chilkoot style dispatching.

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit
So after years of garbage clouds on xplane, SkyMaxx 3.0 has fixed all of my qualms.

It is perfect.

Actual overcast layers, when you descend in to them it looks like it should. Visibility limits actually work. And on top of that, it looks gorgeous.

http://imgur.com/rVQ57dr

https://instagram.com/p/_PvPnHnr3c/

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Just bought a Super Cub in FSE and its not too far from Winnipeg. Aww yiss.

INTJ Mastermind
Dec 30, 2004

It's a radial!
Just have to wonder, does anyone actually watch this stuff?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69UuOu2IrKc

Who in their right mind would sit and watch another sky nerd program a FMS or click switches for three hours?

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

INTJ Mastermind posted:

Just have to wonder, does anyone actually watch this stuff?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69UuOu2IrKc

Who in their right mind would sit and watch another sky nerd program a FMS or click switches for three hours?

The same kind of sky nerd who would sit and program a FMS or click switches for three hours.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




INTJ Mastermind posted:

Just have to wonder, does anyone actually watch this stuff?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69UuOu2IrKc

Who in their right mind would sit and watch another sky nerd program a FMS or click switches for three hours?

I watch shorter videos especially the frooglesim ones because he's pretty good at explaining wtf he's doing.

Forums Terrorist
Dec 8, 2011

Matt Davies is also good, especially if you want to feel better about flying on VATSIM.

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




I don't think many people *watch* watch those videos, but I like to sometimes have videos like that running in the background when flying myself. Sometimes you learn new things from them.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy

Forums Terrorist posted:

Matt Davies is also good, especially if you want to feel better about flying on VATSIM.

Yeah I've watched the odd Davies vid or two.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
People ask me how I can sit and fly sims the way I do. 5 years ago, I asked people the same question, until I started doing it.

It's just so damned relaxing.

Also goes well withtunes booze and a monitor for porn.

INTJ Mastermind
Dec 30, 2004

It's a radial!
I like flying IFR procedures and seeing the neat flight path on the map screen afterwards. Hey this looks just like the plate! Sweet! :)

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
I decided last night that even with FSE and VATSIM there just wasn't enough of a challenge so now I'm flying FSE/VATSIM with crashes on.



Ya I stuck that 1500' landing at AK73 in a Baron. Took 3 tries and white knuckes all the way down though.

Of course, in the day of Internet airplanes I've done since turning realism on the only time I actually crashed was on a nice 4000' runway in a loving amphibian Otter.

I forgot to put the gear down.

INTJ Mastermind
Dec 30, 2004

It's a radial!
Doesn't FSX give you plenty of crashes by default? :v:

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ZekeNY
Jun 13, 2013

Probably AFK
So now I just bought the PC-12, too. These sales need to end before I go broke

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