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What sites still use flash? Aside from clunky local news stations, and I guess newgrounds if that's still a thing I can't really think of any, especially ones I'd actually care about. I haven't had it installed since youtube started having most stuff available in html5
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For me the only site I use that still requires Flash is the NHL gamecenter streaming site. This is the one thing I use Chrome for so I don't need to install Flash in Firefox. They've said a new interface is coming in January, which I'm hoping means they'll finally drop Flash.
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Dec 18, 2015 06:46
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My dad was excited for 64-bit Firefox, but two of his three separate Trend Micro extensions didn't seem to work and he was super deflated. 
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Dec 18, 2015 06:53
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Google Music seems to require Flash in Firefox which is annoying/punitive.
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Dec 18, 2015 06:54
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Pandora is still flash, but only on the desktop! 
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Dec 18, 2015 07:13
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What do you guys use for high def YouTube videos then? I use FF in Linux and without flash all I seem to get is the crappy lo res option.
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Dec 18, 2015 10:56
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The Dark One posted:two of his three separate Trend Micro extensions didn't seem to work
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Dec 18, 2015 11:11
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DeaconBlues posted:What do you guys use for high def YouTube videos then? I use FF in Linux and without flash all I seem to get is the crappy lo res option. I'm on Linux Mint 17 and the HTML5 player works just fine for me.
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Dec 18, 2015 11:30
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I have some kind of HTML5 extension in FF. I'll try disabling the extension when I get home. Thanks.
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Dec 18, 2015 13:04
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The Milkman posted:What sites still use flash? Aside from clunky local news stations, and I guess newgrounds if that's still a thing I can't really think of any, especially ones I'd actually care about. I haven't had it installed since youtube started having most stuff available in html5 Of the top of my head, its mostly old content that is still around. Newgrounds, Homestar Runner, AlbinoBlackSheep. Probs also Homestuck too.
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Dec 18, 2015 13:22
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DeaconBlues posted:I have some kind of HTML5 extension in FF. I'll try disabling the extension when I get home. Thanks. You should check out youtube.com/html5 too.
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Dec 18, 2015 13:40
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The Milkman posted:What sites still use flash? Aside from clunky local news stations, and I guess newgrounds if that's still a thing I can't really think of any, especially ones I'd actually care about. I haven't had it installed since youtube started having most stuff available in html5 Bank of America
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Dec 18, 2015 15:40
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The Milkman posted:What sites still use flash? Aside from clunky local news stations, and I guess newgrounds if that's still a thing I can't really think of any, especially ones I'd actually care about. I haven't had it installed since youtube started having most stuff available in html5 Twitch
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Dec 18, 2015 18:07
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The Milkman posted:What sites still use flash? Aside from clunky local news stations, and I guess newgrounds if that's still a thing I can't really think of any, especially ones I'd actually care about. I haven't had it installed since youtube started having most stuff available in html5 I'm well aware that hist is the height of a niche use case scenario especially for westerners, but NJPW World (subscription streaming service for a Japanese wrestling promotion).
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Dec 18, 2015 18:17
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mike12345 posted:Twitch They're transitioning to html 5 though. And I haven't had any issues since they announced this watching twitch streams in safari or Firefox on a Mac without flash installed.
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Dec 18, 2015 20:20
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NAT-T Ice posted:Flash is less and less of a necessity. My problem is that when sites do convert to HTML5 they tend to only support Chrome because Chrome drives development of new video streaming standards. Thanks to OpenH264 and Primetime EME this is markedly less of a problem now than it had been, and Mozilla can throw in open-source codecs like the VP series at leisure (although you might need to un-whitelist webm in about :config because Mozilla really does appear to be getting fed up with the more adept parts of their audience). Unless the site is namechecking Chrome, in which case name and shame. dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Dec 18, 2015 |
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Dec 18, 2015 20:26
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Butt Savage posted:They're transitioning to html 5 though. And I haven't had any issues since they announced this watching twitch streams in safari or Firefox on a Mac without flash installed. There are a whole bunch of sites that have been "transitioning" to HTML5 for years and still ain't actually done.
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Dec 18, 2015 21:00
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So I disabled YouTube All HTML5 add-on and YouTube actually works better without it! Must've been an old extension that was actually inhibiting me from getting HTML5 videos in high-res.
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Dec 19, 2015 02:03
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The Milkman posted:What sites still use flash? Aside from clunky local news stations, and I guess newgrounds if that's still a thing I can't really think of any, especially ones I'd actually care about. I haven't had it installed since youtube started having most stuff available in html5 Lots of  sites, Twitch, lots of enterprise sites (though those are mostly internal), etc.
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Dec 19, 2015 05:19
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Yeah, I forgot about Twitch. Netflix, Hulu, Twitch, MLB etc I tend to view on my playstation/iOS stuff so I forget those potentially could be flash. Thauros posted:I'm well aware that hist is the height of a niche use case scenario especially for westerners, but NJPW World (subscription streaming service for a Japanese wrestling promotion). NJPW is worth dealing with flash.
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Dec 19, 2015 05:36
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Lum posted:Of the top of my head, its mostly old content that is still around. Newgrounds, Homestar Runner, AlbinoBlackSheep. Probs also Homestuck too.
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Dec 19, 2015 06:03
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You can add BBC iPlayer on Linux to the list of unsupported HTML5 players.
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Dec 19, 2015 09:34
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Anyone using noscript have an empty menu lately? The main noscript drop down menu where I should be able to allow or deny individual domains is now empty on every website except for options and allow global scripts. Edit: nm problem solved. Using the speedup options in this post breaks noscript. bag of a bee fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Dec 19, 2015 |
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Dec 19, 2015 13:58
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Is there a way to turn off the slide animation for the new fullscreen notification in 43? I hate animated menus and things flying around the screen for no reason.
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Dec 19, 2015 14:24
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I get a weird kind of flickering now watching embedded videos, youtube & non youtube. Is my gpu acting up? I don't know what's going on. (using 64 bit ff)
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Dec 19, 2015 14:39
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Removes the HTML fullscreen warning. full-screen-api.warning.timeout "3000"; set to "0" This will change the fade transition to fullscreen (Default is 200 200), 0 0 will remove the animations altogether. full-screen-api.transition-duration.enter 50 0 full-screen-api.transition-duration.leave 0 50
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Dec 19, 2015 14:53
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Sir Unimaginative posted:Unless the site is namechecking Chrome, in which case name and shame. YouTube has done so in the past (HTML5 worked fine, but only if Flash was not installed or you changed your UA to Chrome). It no longer does so but half the quality options don't work on Firefox. Other than that I've only seen a few minor sites with an explicit name check for content that still worked in Firefox. I should try more to see if any work with Firefox if I switch user agents. I expect that major video sites (Amazon, Netflix) require DRM code that isn't in Firefox yet.
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Dec 19, 2015 16:38
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NAT-T Ice posted:I should try more to see if any work with Firefox if I switch user agents. I expect that major video sites (Amazon, Netflix) require DRM code that isn't in Firefox yet. I believe Firefox is the only browser that doesn't have Netflix in HTML5 for exactly that reason.
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Dec 19, 2015 16:40
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computer parts posted:I believe Firefox is the only browser that doesn't have Netflix in HTML5 for exactly that reason. Firefox Users Can Now Watch Netflix HTML5 Video on Windows
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Dec 19, 2015 17:16
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I find it kinda funny that the solution to moving away from Adobe Flash to watch DRM'd videos is to install Adobe Primetime in order to watch DRM'd videos in HTML5. We're just trading out one Adobe plugin for another. I'm not saying it's the wrong move, or that there's a better solution. It's just funny is all.
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Dec 19, 2015 17:46
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mike12345 posted:I get a weird kind of flickering now watching embedded videos, youtube & non youtube. Is my gpu acting up? I don't know what's going on. (using 64 bit ff) I was getting this for a couple days on the previous version of Firefox Developer Edition. The latest version (45.0a2 (2015-12-18)) seems to have fixed it.
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Dec 19, 2015 19:13
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Okay, what's Add-on signing, and why did it disable everything I love?
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Dec 19, 2015 21:18
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YggiDee posted:Okay, what's Add-on signing, and why did it disable everything I love? It's a misguided attempt to cut down on malware addons. Extensions hosted on addons.mozilla.org are automatically signed, and self-hosted extensions are easy to get signed now. It's likely there are updated versions of your extensions that are already signed, so you should try to find these. Otherwise, as a temporary measure you can turn off the signature verification in about :config, but that will only last until Firefox 44.
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Dec 19, 2015 21:26
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Anyway to turn this off?
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Dec 19, 2015 22:50
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ArcaneMan posted:Anyway to turn this off? from the previous page: The Gunslinger posted:If anyone else hates the "search for blah on Google" in the awesome bar, about :config and set browser.urlbar.unifiedcomplete to false. God help me if I ever somehow end up with a vanilla install of Firefox again because it feels like I've had to make about 20+ tweaks just to remove all of the annoying poo poo they've added over the years.
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Thanks!
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Avenging Dentist posted:I don't see what there is to be sad about? Mozilla employees said "ok, but we need a USB library in Gecko first", and then some non-employees had a slapfight in the middle of the bug, and then someone posted a patch to add a USB library to Gecko which is getting attention from a Mozilla employee who can review the patch when it's ready. Further, as you mentioned later in the thread, there are less and less reasons to choose Firefox over any other browser these days, and I agree on those roughly summing up to ideology and add-ons. Say what you will, but with the new extension scheme, one of those is going away, leaving only "muh libertah!" left which I believe is hardly good enough for most people. I'm not saying Chrome is vastly superior, but it already has a large library of extensions today (which Firefox will not match, once the switch to WebExt is done), so what's the point of Firefox for the average user? I can see a few things which matters to them: UI Number & quality of extensions Speed Features Ease of use UI is basically dead race since the big browsers are all moving in the same direction. #/quality of extensions is where Firefox currently has the big upper hand, but that's very likely to be nullified by WebExtensions. Afaik, Firefox is currently faster than Chrome (and Edge?) but at this point it's largely unnoticeable. Yes, faster, but the benchmarks are not really corresponding to a noticeably snappier/faster experience at least not in my experience - maybe I'm dead wrong here though (?). As for features, there's no doubt that Chrome is more on the ball and U2F is just another proof of that tbh. It kinda binds in to ease of use as well, where using Chrome is mostly an install-and-go experience while Firefox can be very cumbersome in this regard - it seems to be better now, but not long ago you couldn't watch full HD content on Youtube with a default Firefox install without mucking about in about :config. Yes, I realise this is because of the ideology attached, still doesn't make it a great experience nevertheless. So in sum, where the few differences between browsers will lay in the future is basically speed and features/ease of use and perhaps partially extensions (at least until Firefox caught up with WebExt), and I honestly don't see Firefox winning any of them convincingly now or in the future. Speed perhaps, but I'm not so sure it translates into a real world gain as much as say having a big extension library enhances the user experience. Previous experience tells me Mozilla will probably find a way to squander whatever advantages they might have too, but I'm hopeful they've learnt something from losing roughly half of their market share over the last few years and turn the ship around. I'll believe it when I see it though.
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Marinmo posted:To pick up on this; it's sad because U2F is a great idea (right?) and you're basically going captain hindsight saying "well we're lucky we didn't implement it because it was broken!" ... That's not what I was saying at all. The Chrome dev was apologizing for not announcing that they were going to ship U2F in Chrome, which meant that Mozilla wasn't aware of Chrome's implementation status. Generally speaking, Mozilla tries to at least maintain parity with Chrome. The discussion from Mozilla employees has mostly been that U2F is a good idea and it should be supported (with the caveat that the first version is possibly being deprecated and the second version currently has some unclear parts in the spec).
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YggiDee posted:Okay, what's Add-on signing, and why did it disable everything I love? Yeah I just had Youtube Center disabled and damned if I can visit youtube without it. To add to what astral said, open about :config and set "xpinstall.signatures.required" to false. Firefox does say doing this is all at your own risk, as it leaves you open to malware from dodgy add-ons.
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Is there a way to sign extensions you didn't make, but have been abandoned by the original owners for years while still working?
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