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Alaois posted:if I'm remembering the right podcast, the Sword and Scale guy seems to be deathly afraid of schizophrenic people and, ironically enough, is super paranoid that at any moment he'll be skinned alive and gutted by one i'm honestly never sure how much of sword and scale is mike boudet being an idiot and how much is him amping it up and doing a super lurid true crime show i mean, he told a lady he didn't know what 420 was in one episode. Sarcopenia posted:No, no, no you guys. the worst loving episode of "Sword and Scale" was the one without no loving warning that starts of with a guy talking about how he choked and sexually abused his young son. actually it's the one that's 30 minutes of text-to-speech readings of chatlogs between people talking about raping, murdering, and eating babies
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I mentioned earlier in the thread about a year ago that the subject of Sword and Stone episode 14 was a friend of mine. We were hoping maybe some attention paid to her case would result is some new info and possibly some clues/progress, but that didn't happen.
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The new Netflix series, Making a Murderer, is probably going to be enjoyed by many people in this thread.
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Literally The Worst posted:actually it's the one that's 30 minutes of text-to-speech readings of chatlogs between people talking about raping, murdering, and eating babies
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NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:That episode was dumb as hell. Reading out people talking about their hosed up fetishes on the internet isn't true crime, it's The F Plus or Weekend Web played for shock rather than laughs. Maybe I just have a poor opinion of the internet but it wasn't interesting or insightful to know it's full of people jerking off to horrible poo poo. lmao if you think true crime is supposed to be insightful as opposed to lurid tabloid poo poo with the barest veneer of respectability
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Eh, be lurid or insightful or anything in between, just don't paste a Weekend Web into a text-to-speech program and call it done. I know it's a free podcast but dude phoned it in massively both in content and delivery. Maybe he was sick.
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I love Sword and Scale for all the same reasons young me loved Carmageddon 2
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Urban Wizard posted:I believe it's this recent episode: http://thinkingsidewayspodcast.com/lake-city-quiet-pills/ fwiw this wasn't the right episode that guy was talking about but this was fascinating anyway so thanks for posting it
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fun hater posted:fwiw this wasn't the right episode that guy was talking about but this was fascinating anyway so thanks for posting it I'm pretty sure it is, though? "I liked the recent one about the porn image board with mercenaries, or whatever the hell that was." That's what the entire episode for Lake City Quiet Pills is about.
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http://specialreports.dailydot.com/how-to-destroy-an-american-family Teen hacker destroys a dude and his family's lives over absolutely nothing.
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oh i see what happened, the wrong post got quoted. still thanks! i liked listening to it. unnerving if you get weirded out by fundamentalist satanists who may or may not have bad-weird sex lives but jack parson's life, beliefs and death were a wild loving ride from start to finish. RUMOR HAS IT that after his death, a black box was found containing videos of parsons having sex with his mother and dogs. here's a dollop episode about him
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fun hater posted:oh i see what happened, the wrong post got quoted. still thanks! i liked listening to it. and he went on to write for our very own Something Awful front page!
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Sarcopenia posted:http://specialreports.dailydot.com/how-to-destroy-an-american-family Good to know that lizard squad is doing actual, straight-up evil, instead of just being sorta jerks. Crazy that this dude isn't in prison forever
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Cumslut1895 posted:and he went on to write for our very own Something Awful front page! That's Zack parsons, and the most unnerving thing he did was write a book that was ostensibly about weird online subcultures but was actually a dumb fiction book about the topic that he never bothered to admit
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Aesop Poprock posted:That's Zack parsons, and the most unnerving thing he did was write a book that was ostensibly about weird online subcultures but was actually a dumb fiction book about the topic that he never bothered to admit what
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Aesop Poprock posted:That's Zack parsons, and the most unnerving thing he did was write a book that was ostensibly about weird online subcultures but was actually a dumb fiction book about the topic that he never bothered to admit What is a 'joke'?!?!?!
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Literally The Worst posted:actually it's the one that's 30 minutes of text-to-speech readings of chatlogs between people talking about raping, murdering, and eating babies No, it's the one after that where he calls some friend of his on the phone and does more of that as a hilarious joke that goes on and loving on
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fun hater posted:oh i see what happened, the wrong post got quoted. still thanks! i liked listening to it. The rotten dot com library also has a nice (work safe, even) writeup on this guy: http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/mad-science/jack-parsons/ I think lots of articles on that site are fitting of this thread really.
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Cumslut1895 posted:What is a 'joke'?!?!?! You may want to investigate the answer to this question before you post again.
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How many of you live in Oregon? How many of you have heard of the cascadia fault line? How many know it's due for a major earthquake and tsunami? Like any day to 40 years from now soon? How would you like to be that Cassandra who keeps trying to make it safer but run against human nature to not do anything? "The last person I met with in the Pacific Northwest was Doug Dougherty, the superintendent of schools for Seaside, which lies almost entirely within the tsunami-inundation zone. Of the four schools that Dougherty oversees, with a total student population of sixteen hundred, one is relatively safe. The others sit five to fifteen feet above sea level. When the tsunami comes, they will be as much as forty-five feet below it. In 2009, Dougherty told me, he found some land for sale outside the inundation zone, and proposed building a new K-12 campus there. Four years later, to foot the hundred-and-twenty-eight-million-dollar bill, the district put up a bond measure. The tax increase for residents amounted to two dollars and sixteen cents per thousand dollars of property value. The measure failed by sixty-two per cent. Dougherty tried seeking help from Oregon’s congressional delegation but came up empty. The state makes money available for seismic upgrades, but buildings within the inundation zone cannot apply. At present, all Dougherty can do is make sure that his students know how to evacuate. Some of them, however, will not be able to do so. At an elementary school in the community of Gearhart, the children will be trapped. “They can’t make it out from that school,” Dougherty said. “They have no place to go.” On one side lies the ocean; on the other, a wide, roadless bog. When the tsunami comes, the only place to go in Gearhart is a small ridge just behind the school. At its tallest, it is forty-five feet high—lower than the expected wave in a full-margin earthquake. For now, the route to the ridge is marked by signs that say “Temporary Tsunami Assembly Area.” I asked Dougherty about the state’s long-range plan. “There is no long-range plan,” he said." http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/07/20/the-really-big-one
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Kiss Kiss Bang Bang posted:“There is no long-range plan,” he said." Well, you need blood to determine the blood cost, that's just basic logic!
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and of course if you live in dallas you know you're doomed when the lewisville dam inevitably gives way
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:and of course if you live in dallas you know you're doomed when the lewisville dam inevitably gives way The Coming of the Dallas Enema.
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DandyLion posted:Well, you need blood to determine the blood cost, that's just basic logic! To be fair the whole town is in an abduction zone.
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Mulder, that says subduction zone. Subduction. There's a difference.
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House Louse posted:Mulder, that says subduction zone. Subduction. There's a difference. Scully there's being a skeptic and then there's just being a bitch. You've personally seen aliens like 20 times at least
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Nckdictator posted:Excerpt from Ed Zuckerman's early 1980's book The Day After World War III Oh thank God I'll still be able to get turned down for mortgage refinancing after the nuclear holocaust.
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quote:"Our emergency operating center used to be in Topeka," John Nolan said over a lunch of heated TV dinners in the UVS employee dining room. "But in 1961 the government ran a test exercise, and the results showed Topeka being hit pretty hard by the Russians. We went to the Department of Defense for targeting information and decided Hutchinson was not a high-risk area.
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Lazlo Nibble posted:Cut to some schlub in a small dimly-lit room with Russian-language military posters on the wall, flipping from bookmark to bookmark, noting the names of cities and towns circled in the text, and entering their locations into targeting forms on a green-screen terminal after looking them up in a dog-eared copy of the 1978 Rand McNally Road Atlas and Travel Guide for the United States, Canada and Mexico. I've always had the same thought: if you're really concerned about the Russians (or whoever) wiping you off the map, surely you understand they will look for where you move any of the critical facilities, even if it's out of town? Meanwhile, Merry Christmas, here's a thread about dead bodies: http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20151008-the-graveyard-in-the-clouds-everests-200-dead-bodies posted:No one knows exactly how many bodies remain on Mount Everest today, but there are certainly more than 200. Climbers and Sherpas lie tucked into crevasses, buried under avalanche snow and exposed on catchment basin slopes – their limbs sun-bleached and distorted. Most are concealed from view, but some are familiar fixtures on the route to Everest’s summit.
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RIP that Canadian woman who prepped for Everest by photoshopping herself into photos of mountains.
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C.M. Kruger posted:RIP that Canadian woman who prepped for Everest by photoshopping herself into photos of mountains. Yeah, her website was full of pictures of her photoshopped in front of random mountains and snowy scenery, including Lake Louise, which has wheelchair access. Everest was the first mountain she ever climbed.
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Vladimir Poutine posted:Yeah, her website was full of pictures of her photoshopped in front of random mountains and snowy scenery, including Lake Louise, which has wheelchair access. Everest was the first mountain she ever climbed. Her training regimen was walking around her neighbourhood with a backpack of rocks which kind of pales in comparison to climbing a mountain, carrying heavier baggage and wearing heavy gear, while slowly dying of hypoxia.
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outlier posted:I've always had the same thought: if you're really concerned about the Russians (or whoever) wiping you off the map, surely you understand they will look for where you move any of the critical facilities, even if it's out of town? They move the facilities out more for two reasons: 1. Non-critical stuff isn't going to be targeted except in a truly apocalyptic exchange if it requires diverting strike assets from more important targets. This means that if your stuff is 25km from an extant strike target, it's more likely to get hit deliberately than if its 100km out or more. 2. Spreading out forces the enemy to either use more nukes or use them more carefully. Less centralization of assets in a time of nuclear attack means more assets will, necessarily, survive. If all your stuff is in a city or a strike area, it's gone whether the Russians care or not. If it's not, and they don't care, that material is still in play in the aftermatth. Truly critical facilities tend to instead get moved not necessarily out, but into positions that will hold up to attack - or at least, which have a strong likelihood of doing so - or to remain in place with whatever can be done to protect them. It's an excellent book and I can't recommend it enough.
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I watched Coldwater on Netflix the other day and it made me think about some of the articles I'd read about private reform programs for troubled youth in the past. It's a pretty engaging film and while it's decidedly fictional, some of the content is based on true events. If you watch the film you'll see parallels between the story of Coldwater and the deaths of Gina Score and Nicholaus Contreraz as well as events at Tierra Blanca and Dozier (which was state funded). So lets set the scene, you're a troubled child. Maybe you hung with the wrong crowd and got involved in drugs. Maybe you were sexually abused as a child or you have an undiagnosed mental illness. Maybe you're parents don't like the fact that you're gay or maybe you don't get along with your new stepmother. Essentially your parents see you a a 'problem' and they think they've found a good tough love solution that will straighten you out with good old-fashioned discipline. Your parents can pay a private organization to send men into your room in the middle of the night. These men will handcuff you and forcibly remove you from your home while you're crying and screaming. Maybe you'll be placed in a van and driven to the facility in the US or maybe you'll be put on an airplane and sent to a 'school' in Central or South America but regardless of where you end up the program is subject to little if ANY government oversight. Your parents wont know what's happening to you, will be told not to believe anything you say, and you will be prevented from contacting them in any way that isn't controlled by the facility. You'll be stuck at that facility until you either internalize all of the mental and physical abuse and follow the program to completion, your parents pull you out willingly against program advice, or you reach the age of 18. It's probably not surprising that there is a lot of abuse, neglect, and avoidable deaths associated with programs like these. Most of the staff are uneducated and poorly trained, there are few if any mental health and medical personnel on site, and they usually follow a regime of weird behavior change techniques, brainwashing, and torture tactics to get children to conform. The good news is that a lot of these facilities have been closed down but thousands of children had to be abused for those programs to close. I think all of the WWASP programs abroad were closed after allegations of child abuse. However many abusive programs are still open and functioning within the US and there is little to no oversight of these programs by the government and even less oversight when the program is considered a 'religious school'. Frequently authorities choose to disbelieve children who come forward with allegations of abuse. quote:“Every time I’d have a seizure, they’d punish me for it,” he says. “I woke up one day outside in the dirt with a terrible headache, and I asked one of the other students, ‘Why am I in the dirt? Why am I hurting so bad?’ And he said that I’d had a seizure, and one of the staff members told me to stop faking or he was going to kick me in the head. I was having a seizure, and I wasn’t coherent, so he came and kicked me in the head. I was still having a seizure, so he decided to throw me off the porch. quote:"Harold gets this little thing called a Kubaton off his keychain. It’s made out of titanium but long, probably eight inches long by two centimeters in diameter. Every time Morgan is not sitting flat on the post, he starts hitting him on the head with it. This kid is getting beaten over the head with the baton for like an hour and a half. So we wake up in the morning and Morgan’s head is about twice the size as it was the day before. His eyes are swollen completely shut. He just looked like an alien. He couldn’t even walk without someone helping him." quote:I had learned over the years I've spent in "programs" that it's best to use the "smile & nod" tactic, so I made "upper levels" fast. The "upper levels" kind of run the programs. They help with the seminars also. I was helping staff a seminar of kids around 13, 14, 15 years old.One of the processes they do is called "numbers" where they give you a "number" like "spoiled brat" or "tough guy."Well, this 14 year old girl was given the title "Daddy's Slut" because her father had raped & molested her, but she would not tell anyone. Me and another "upper" were "assigned" to this girl, our jobs were to make her "run her number" then teach her to recognize it, and snap out of it.Well, she did not want to "run her number" and me and the other "upper level" did not know exactly what to do.The seminar leader came over & talked to us and he told the other "upper" to pull out his penis and wave it at her.And he wanted me to say some really horrible things to the girl, like "You're a slut. Nothing but a slut!" "You know you want it!" etc., etc.I refused to do it again, but the seminar leader made me stand there and watch as he and the other "upper level" went through it.All this time the girl was crying & shaking and...she was looking at me for help and I couldn't do poo poo. I couldn't do nothing but close my eyes! I couldn't do nothing as they abused this girl. I can't imagine what her dreams are like now. There are a lot of great longform articles to read on this topic from many different sources: http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/08/when-wilderness-boot-camps-take-tough-love-too-far/375582/ http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2000/11/camp-fear http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/08/new-bethany-ifb-teen-homes-abuse http://projects.huffingtonpost.com/prisoners-of-profit And some sites with good news article links or personal accounts: http://www.nospank.net/boot.htm http://wwaspdiaries.com/ http://www.helpsavetroubledteens.com/our-stories.html (highly recommend this one, an archive of WWASP personal acounts) I focused primarily on privately run facilities in this post but state run reform institutions like Dozier have also come under fire for abusing children. There are also cases of the state sending children to for-profit facilities where conditions are abysmal and in many ways similar to conditions seen in WWASP and youth boot camp facilities. 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The St. Francis Dam collapse In the early 1920s, Los Angeles was in desperate need of water. The population was increasing fast, and people who didn't like the Owens Valley water grab (California Water Wars; see also Chinatown) kept blowing up the Los Angeles Aqueduct. William Mulholland, Manager and Chief Engineer of the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, proposed a dam in San Francisquito Canyon. The previous dam built under his department was such a success that it had been renamed the Mulholland Dam. The new dam was under construction from 1924-1926. However, there were a few flaws with the design and build.
A government investigation was sent in on March 21, and took five days before issuing their report. Not surprisingly, the report was based on incomplete investigation and inadequate information. The report blamed the whole problem on the unstable foundations of the ground under the dam. William Mulholland took full responsibility and retired. There's a fascinating coda. A lot more is known about both geology and dam building than was known in 1925. An excellent set of slides by J. David Rogers argues convincingly that what set off the dam collapse was a combination of two things. First, the dam was built on an ancient (and thus unrecognizable in 1925) landslide, which let loose before the dam itself broke. (Rogers argues that the pre-collapse power surge must have been due to the landslide, since the power poles affected were well above the highest level of the flood waters.) Second, the dam was built with inadequate drainage underneath the dam foot. For complicated reasons laid out in the slide set, the ground underneath any dam tends to fill with water, and if this is not drained away, the dam tends to float ("hydraulic uplift"). Dams are not built to resist upward pressure, and furthermore the high-pressure water underneath the dam easily scours away underlying rock or, in this case, unstable ground. According to Wikipedia, Rogers's conclusions on the geology are sound, but a later paper argues that the structure itself still didn't meet 1925 standards for dam building. So. Build a dam in the wrong place, copy the design unchanged from another site (the design was a copy of the Mulholland Dam, with nearly no alteration), build it much higher than the design without modifying the design to account for that, fill it past the as-built design limits, and 600 people die. In 1935, in response to popular pressure, the original Mulholland Dam was inspected and found to be severely underdesigned. As a result, the dam was reinforced, and the Hollywood Reservoir behind the dam was lowered substantially, to the levels seen today. Conclusion: Civil engineering is haaard. In 1929, California created the state Board of Registration for Civil Engineers (now the Board for Professional Engineers, Land Surveyors, and Geologists), so that seat-of-the-pants construction was no longer considered acceptable. Mulholland, a brilliant man -- his Los Angeles Aqueduct still stands and is still essential to LA's water system -- was self-educated; I have no idea whether the new Board would have registered him absent the dam collapse. His record up until the dam collapse was stellar.
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Karma Monkey posted:Oh thank God I'll still be able to get turned down for mortgage refinancing after the nuclear holocaust. And pay taxes. (I think it's still alright to scan these seeing as the book's been of print for 30+ years. If not, let me know and I'll take them down)             
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Nckdictator posted:And pay taxes. Holy poo poo. I imagine that all of these plans would turn out like that bunker in Threads where all the local officials asphyxiate to death because the entrance got buried.
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Empress Theonora posted:Holy poo poo. Yeah. The government can make all the plans it wants but their not going to help when there's nobody left to implement or manage the plans. Sometimes, the plans themselves have huge holes in them. For example, there was something called "Crisis Relocation Planning" CRP called for mandatory evacuation of "high-risk" urban areas and to move urban residents to small, rural towns where local residents would be expected to host the new arrivals. There's a few problems with this. 1. Residents of those towns might not be too happy with a flood of "outsiders" "invading" their towns at such a time. 2. quote:The "host" communities were ill-suited for the job. For instance, all 80,000+ people in the city of Hartford were supposed to go to Hereford, VT, population 2000. The only public "shelter" space was the high school gym auditorium, capacity 250 3. quote:"Critical infrastructure" people would have to stay behind. Utility workers, police, fire, broadcasters, medical personnel, bus drivers, etc. There were rumors that National Guard would be utilized to make sure these workers didn't abandon their posts. 4. Some of their timeframes seem overly optimistic. For example, NYC was supposed to be evacuated in 3 days. 5. If major cities were starting to evacuate it would likely look like a sign that the US intended to launch a first strike on the USSR. To say this would hamper negotiations at avoiding a nuclear war is a understatement. 6. "High Risk areas" were determined by FEMA by proximity to targets such as military bases, etc. However, the DOD didn't reveal to FEMA any classified locations the USSR might know about which would likely be targets. 5. The plan required 7-14 days to implement. 6. Traffic, just imagine the traffic and trying to control it. Zuckerman gives an example of a CRP meeting between FEMA and the city of Philadelphia in which the police protest that they won't have enough cops to both maintain order and direct traffic. FEMA suggests using school crossing guards to direct traffic, the cops reply that school crossing guards are all elderly and trying to get them to direct evacuating traffic would just end up with a lot of dead crossing guards. http://aliciapatterson.org/stories/last-picture-show http://coldwar-ct.com/Crisis_Relocation.htm
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