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I don't like that its hinting at a PSP game I'll likely never play. Is the Crisis in Liberl Trails in the Sky? I'm so confused with all of these places. Also I started on Hard and all it expects is for you to know the tricks of combat ahead of time or else you gotta grind. Oh yeah and is there a level limit to the first Cold Steel?
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Some Numbers posted:Wait, Cold Steel 2 ends on a cliffhanger too? The Japanese fans must have been pissed, since CS3 was only just announced. I feel a deep level of nervousness in that we aren't going to get CS3, and be left in the west with a cliffhanger worse than any in gaming history.
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Levantine posted:I'm starting Cold Steel today - how hard is Hard? I've heard people say play on Hard but will it gently caress me in spots? I'm sorry I can't speak to Hard, but Normal has been fairly easy so far with the main factor in most combats being "Can I get Advantage?" Regular enemies can often be beaten without ever getting a turn. On the other hand, whenever I slip up and let enemies get Advantage the group gets pretty well messed up. I'm into Chapter 6 and there are a couple bosses that have taken multiple tries for me to beat, especially in the old schoolhouse. Crabtree posted:I don't like that its hinting at a PSP game I'll likely never play. Is the Crisis in Liberl Trails in the Sky? I'm so confused with all of these places. Yes. Trails in the Sky FC and SC are on Steam too just fyi
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Oh I know, they're sitting on my backlog. I'm talking about this Zero stuff that's also in the mix and apparently in Steel 2?
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Crabtree posted:Oh I know, they're sitting on my backlog. I'm talking about this Zero stuff that's also in the mix and apparently in Steel 2? Liberl stuff is Trails in the Sky, Zero is Crossbell (I think). Each Trails series focuses on a specific kingdom in the world. Not having played Cold Steel I'm not sure how they do it, but TitS is very much all about the world building.
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Cold Steel has had tons of worldbuilding, mostly focused on Erebonia.
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Slur posted:I feel a deep level of nervousness in that we aren't going to get CS3, and be left in the west with a cliffhanger worse than any in gaming history. Ah, I was wondering where your pessimism went. Apparently the preorders for this were ridiculously good (for XSEED, anyway), so I'm not. Crabtree posted:Oh I know, they're sitting on my backlog. I'm talking about this Zero stuff that's also in the mix and apparently in Steel 2? Depending on how well this sells (see above), we might get Zero anyway so... Levantine posted:Liberl stuff is Trails in the Sky, Zero is Crossbell (I think). Each Trails series focuses on a specific kingdom in the world. Not having played Cold Steel I'm not sure how they do it, but TitS is very much all about the world building. This is Trails, it's pretty much World Building: The Video Game.
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Really Pants posted:I'm sorry I can't speak to Hard, but Normal has been fairly easy so far with the main factor in most combats being "Can I get Advantage?" Regular enemies can often be beaten without ever getting a turn. On the other hand, whenever I slip up and let enemies get Advantage the group gets pretty well messed up. I'm into Chapter 6 and there are a couple bosses that have taken multiple tries for me to beat, especially in the old schoolhouse. Also thanks for this, I think I'll stick to Normal. If I do end up doing a second playthrough (unlikely unless I just love the game beyond all reason) I'll kick it up to Nightmare on NG+ though.
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Slur posted:I feel a deep level of nervousness in that we aren't going to get CS3, and be left in the west with a cliffhanger worse than any in gaming history. Seeing that it's you saying this, I'm confident we're now certain to get CS3 since the universe has shown a consistent desire to prove your pessimism wrong time and again. Please don't ever change.
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Is it wrong to want to see the Bracers not be so nice and benevolent of an organization? They almost seem too good to exist. Like how the Goddess Church makes sure to make basic elementary education go through them or seemingly provide the medical needs for commoners making sure people need to depend on the church for things in this now more orbital world. Sure is easy to make people believe when you're hooking them in young and making them depend on you. Or is that just in the Empire? Crabtree fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Jan 1, 2016 |
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Crabtree posted:Is it wrong to want to see the Bracers not be so nice and benevolent of an organization? They almost seem too good to exist. That would be counter the point of Bracers. ... so of course Bracers like that exist.
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Crabtree posted:Is it wrong to want to see the Bracers not be so nice and benevolent of an organization? They almost seem too good to exist. That's why they were created and organized. TitS goes into it. They are a civilian counterpoint to the military designed only to help people in need in ways the military isn't interested in. Cassius is just a total badass that way.
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Levantine posted:That's why they were created and organized. TitS goes into it. They are a civilian counterpoint to the military designed only to help people in need in ways the military isn't interested in. Cassius is just a total badass that way. This isn't entirely accurate. It's more to say things that the military doesn't have the resources to go do. There's plenty of jobs they tend to do that the Military is supposed to be doing, but simply don't have the time. They're essentially a civilian police force. Except more beholden to the people than the state. Which is why you actually are police in Zero/Ao, I suppose.
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Levantine posted:That's why they were created and organized. TitS goes into it. They are a civilian counterpoint to the military designed only to help people in need in ways the military isn't interested in. Cassius is just a total badass that way. Supremezero posted:This isn't entirely accurate. It's more to say things that the military doesn't have the resources to go do. There's plenty of jobs they tend to do that the Military is supposed to be doing, but simply don't have the time. They're essentially a civilian police force. Except more beholden to the people than the state. Now I'm even more worried as government police can be problematic enough, but a civilian militia like law enforcement group? I've never met one local militia that's entirely clean especially in a world full of greys like The Legend of Heroes, let alone an International guild. 
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Crabtree posted:Now I'm even more worried as government police can be problematic enough, but a civilian militia like law enforcement group? I've never met one local militia that's entirely clean especially in a world full of greys like The Legend of Heroes, let alone an International guild. They aren't really police in that they don't keep law and order; rather they are more the people who take care of issues that bother civilians. It's hard to think of an analog really. They help cats out of trees, get recipes for old ladies, stuff like that. They are just Quality of Life folks I guess. But bottom line is they are pretty benevolent.
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More to the point, they don't really get any particular power to abuse. They don't get much in the way of authority. If they have power to abuse, it's their own personal power, which has little to do with being a Bracer. They pretty much just get reputation.
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Supremezero posted:Ah, I was wondering where your pessimism went. Source please.
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Slur posted:Source please. XSEED forums. Uh, lets see... quote:That probably is the case, but that's pretty much par for the course -- our games generally only get a very small number of shelf copies in retail space, if any at all (especially in non-major locations). Preorders really are our life's blood, in a lot of ways.
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Slur posted:I feel a deep level of nervousness in that we aren't going to get CS3, and be left in the west with a cliffhanger worse than any in gaming history.
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Well, my body is ready for zero someday. I can settle with the amount of good characters in cold steel right now anyway. 
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I'm still pretty early into CS (Chapter 2 field study), but one thing has been driving me crazy. With the changes to the ARCUS system, do orbment lines matter at all?
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Some Numbers posted:I'm still pretty early into CS (Chapter 2 field study), but one thing has been driving me crazy. Yes, surprisingly. They modified the status quartz to be one per line now instead of 1 period. So you can stack as many status quartz as you have lines. Same with stat down quartz, though they count separately from the status quartz. Ironically, this means that the superior setup is now lots of branches instead of the 1 single line that it used to be.
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Supremezero posted:Yes, surprisingly. They modified the status quartz to be one per line now instead of 1 period. So you can stack as many status quartz as you have lines. Same with stat down quartz, though they count separately from the status quartz. you do get more EP for having longer lines though. so basically casters are better served with less, long lines like before, but now physical people benefit from having lots of branches
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Holy poo poo the max-level Force quartz absolutely destroys. I wanted to avoid "wasting" any XP, but what's going to compare to infinite S-Breaks as long as you can keep getting at least four kills?
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Really Pants posted:Holy poo poo the max-level Force quartz absolutely destroys. I wanted to avoid "wasting" any XP, but what's going to compare to infinite S-Breaks as long as you can keep getting at least four kills? Chrono Burst + Moebius. The final upgrade for Moebius gives items an AoE. Including Food. Yeah. Force gets you infinite S-breaks as long as you have 4 things you can oneshot. Chrono Burst + Moebius gives you infinite S-Breaks (And whatever else you feel like) as long as your items hold out. Chrono Burst + Machias is pretty good too, since as far as I can tell, his final Craft is simply an AoE Chrono Burst. Supremezero fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Jan 1, 2016 |
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YO ANGELICA'S S CRAFT IS A KAMEN RIDER KICK
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Zaggitz posted:YO ANGELICA'S S CRAFT IS A KAMEN RIDER KICK I don't even care that you didn't use spoiler tags, that's loving awesome.
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Supremezero posted:Chrono Burst + Moebius. The final upgrade for Moebius gives items an AoE. Okay, that does sound neat. Now that I think about it, I guess ending regular encounters with a free Flame Slash isn't all that much better than the usual Triple Advantage curbstomp.
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Is Principal VanDyck ever a party member? Can I just hear him make old man jokes constantly?
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I beat the game. I felt like you could trim a good 20 hours off of that game for just general pacing improvements, but I generally really enjoyed it and the ending was rad though bleak as gently caress. Best new characters: Fie, Sara, Laura, Angelica, Patrick somehow???? Best character: Still Olivier.
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Well, having just finished Chapter 4, I must say that the final boss of the chapter(actual final boss, not the other "fight") seemed incredibly easy. Didn't even pull out any S-Crafts, just hacked it to death, mostly with normal attacks, with Resounding Beat support. It's breath AoE missed a LOT, even before I ended up just spreading everyone out. As for the final "fight", I'll agree with Cake Attack and say C is definitely Crow. You don't give someone a mask and voice changer in this type of game and NOT have it be someone the party knows. Especially since they apparently just use the first letter of their real names for their codes, and he's basically the only c.
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Let's take this thread back into trails in the sky territory to discuss Joshua and Cassius for a moment. Right at the beginning of SC, Cassius tells Estelle that he was almost killed by Joshua when they fought. Yet at the end of FC, Joshua had a very different version of that story to tell, and that version seems to fit a lot better with what we're shown at the beginning of that game. I think what Cassius meant was that Joshua almost got the drop on him, and he believes that if that had been the case, he would have died. It didn't and he was able to defeat Joshua because he was a much stronger fighter. This would be consistent with a comment Joshua makes later in SC (chapter 6 I think)regarding his chances of winning against Loewe in a straight fight being almost nil. That's the explanation I came up with, but I'm interested in hearing others ideas.
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That's the generally accepted explanation. Both are true. Joshua's specialty is striking from the shadows and he has a tremendous advantage against targets are that unaware of him. But it's stated several times in SC that once he loses that advantage and is forced into the open, he's one of the weaker enforcers. Basically Joshua got the drop on Cassius and came close to striking a killing blow, but Cassius was able to regain his footing in time to turn the assassination attempt into a straight fight, which made Joshua's loss a forgone conclusion.
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Zaggitz posted:Best new characters: Fie, Sara, Laura, Angelica, Patrick somehow???? this list is mostly good except where's Towa e: and Elliot, just for the line "It wouldn't be a proper field study without one of us getting embarrassed about our family." Death Priest posted:Let's take this thread back into trails in the sky territory to discuss Joshua and Cassius for a moment. That's also in line with what the Enforcers think of him. They talk about how Joshua's their best covert operative, or how he's only good at striking from the shadows, etc. Hwurmp fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Jan 2, 2016 |
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Speaking of Cassius, my favourite moment of Trails in the Sky SC (among many), spoilers for the ending of SC is him coming to Estelle and Joshua's rescue on top of a fuckin dragon! . Nobody in Cold Steel is as cool as Cassius yet, though I am only at Chapter 4. He still got the coolest nickname, the Divine Blade, you can keep your Icy Maiden and/or Scarecrow. Best new characters are Fie, Laura, Gaius and Rean, tho.
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davidHalestorm posted:Speaking of Cassius, my favourite moment of Trails in the Sky SC (among many), spoilers for the ending of SC is him coming to Estelle and Joshua's rescue on top of a fuckin dragon! . Nobody in Cold Steel is as cool as Cassius yet, though I am only at Chapter 4. He still got the coolest nickname, the Divine Blade, you can keep your Icy Maiden and/or Scarecrow. Cassius is still spoken of in high terms even in Erebonia, but his nickname gets demistified a bit. Divine blade is a title given to any one who has mastered the Eight Leaves sword style, they even mention the bracer from Crossbell who's in Zero/Ao is a Divine blade.
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i'm going to play the first game in the LoH: Ghargav trilogy, or the third Legend of Heroes game overall. or, as it is known in america, Legend of Heroes II. lol
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Cake Attack posted:i'm going to play the first game in the LoH: Ghargav trilogy, or the third Legend of Heroes game overall. Or, as it's known in America, "how do I read this text".
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Cake Attack posted:i'm going to play the first game in the LoH: Ghargav trilogy, or the third Legend of Heroes game overall. Why are you doing this to yourself?
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