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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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133 | 0.01% |
| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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92 | 0.01% |
| Veloster Turbo |
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20 | 0.00% |
| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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AvesPKS posted:I'm going to go test drive a Focus ST again. I'm haggling with some dealerships on GTI pricing so I figured I might as well. One question: should sitting in the Recaros feel like I'm sitting in a bucket? Only thing I didn't like about the Focus ST, and I'm hoping I just didn't adjust them properly, although I'm afraid this won't be the case. What do you mean bucket? Like you are loose in them or they hug you tight?
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Jan 4, 2016 21:23
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The Recaros break in. They feel tight at first but they eventually form to you and become more comfortable.
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Jan 4, 2016 21:25
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Sat in a Clio 182 today, and my knees hit the wheel when working the pedals. Being tall blows sometimes. 
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Jan 4, 2016 21:30
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They didn't feel tight, but when I sat down the seating position felt like the back of the seat was a lot lower than the front of the seat, like I'd fallen into a bucket, if that makes sense. Like I said, I am hoping I just didn't have it adjusted right. Afterwards I sat in a base model and the seats felt much more normal, seating position wise. AvesPKS fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Jan 4, 2016 |
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Jan 4, 2016 21:33
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Took my friend car shopping today. We drove a few of small hatches, most of them boring and automatic. Both the Spark and Sonic were stupidly underwhelming. The Fit was nice but felt sluggish getting on the highway. She really loved that one. The Ford dealer has no Fiesta STs but the one we drove was actually really enjoyable. I need to track down and ST and look into that as I love the size of those.
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Jan 4, 2016 21:34
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AvesPKS posted:They didn't feel tight, but when I sat down the seating position felt like the back of the seat was a lot lower than the front of the seat, like I'd fallen into a bucket, if that makes sense. Like I said, I am hoping I just didn't have it adjusted right. That's just how they are. It's either comfy or not, because that angle can't be adjusted out. For me it felt amazing when I test drove, but my buddy said his legs were going numb in twenty minutes.
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Jan 4, 2016 22:58
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I have a bulging L5 S1 disc and I loathed the recaros. The acute angle of the seat back to the butt cushion is not something I could handle long-term, which is a shame as they seem very high quality. I could also see the making peoples legs numb as they apply additional pressure on the back of your legs where the seat cushion ends because of that angle.
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Jan 5, 2016 00:39
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I got that feeling in the fiesta st i sat in too but the worst was the new colorado. Like leg numbing long oblong toilet time where you stand up and fall over bad.
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Jan 5, 2016 01:18
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PaintVagrant posted:I have a bulging L5 S1 disc and I loathed the recaros. The acute angle of the seat back to the butt cushion is not something I could handle long-term, which is a shame as they seem very high quality. I could also see the making peoples legs numb as they apply additional pressure on the back of your legs where the seat cushion ends because of that angle. This is a little weird, I felt the same way driving my friend's ST. I hated the angle of the seat bottom and that it wasn't adjustable. I definitely couldn't live with them. I also have a lovely back with L5/S1 fuckery (previous herniated disc, one surgery for it and it still stucks so I'll probably revisit that...) and am in the Detroit area.  
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Jan 5, 2016 03:30
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Larrymer posted:This is a little weird, I felt the same way driving my friend's ST. I hated the angle of the seat bottom and that it wasn't adjustable. I definitely couldn't live with them. Broke Back Bros
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Jan 5, 2016 05:02
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PaintVagrant posted:Broke Back Bros Paging CSB/STR
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Jan 5, 2016 05:31
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Larrymer posted:This is a little weird, I felt the same way driving my friend's ST. I hated the angle of the seat bottom and that it wasn't adjustable. I definitely couldn't live with them. Basically this was my experience too. It felt like the seat was trying to swallow me. Voltage posted:I loved the recaros in my fiesta st, broke in nicely and were so comfortable, really hug you in but in a good way. Getting used to the flat seats in new base model jetta kind of sucks. I drove the Fiesta ST with Recaros first, and they didn't feel anywhere near as different as the Focus ST, for some reason. AvesPKS fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Jan 5, 2016 |
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Jan 5, 2016 14:35
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I loved the recaros in my fiesta st, broke in nicely and were so comfortable, really hug you in but in a good way. Getting used to the flat seats in new base model jetta kind of sucks.
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Jan 5, 2016 15:41
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New Golf R dudes, I have a question. I test drove a 2012 Golf R with a manual last year and it seemed a bit sedate. Anyone that has driven both that generation and the current generation, does the new one feel more exciting, or is it pretty much the same?
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Jan 5, 2016 15:52
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GutBomb posted:New Golf R dudes, I have a question. I test drove a 2012 Golf R with a manual last year and it seemed a bit sedate. Anyone that has driven both that generation and the current generation, does the new one feel more exciting, or is it pretty much the same? The 16 has close to 50 more ponies and is on the new MBQ platform which is a HUGE upgrade over the MK6. As far as Recarros, if you are shaped like Hank Hill then they suck, they seem like they were built for people with a big ole butt. I loved mine in the GLI and the seats in the R are basically just reskinned Recarros.
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Jan 5, 2016 16:05
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Not strictly a hatch question, but what's up with the difference in torque figures between the GTI and the GLI? Is it the same engine, or different?
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Jan 5, 2016 18:27
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Same engine for gti and gli, and the gti performance pack gives you an extra 10hp but its just a software tune iirc.
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Jan 5, 2016 19:37
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I think what he's asking about is - on VW.com the GLI shows 207 lb-ft torque at 1700 RPM vs. the GTI's 258 lb-ft at 1500 RPM. Horsepower peaks at lower RPM on the GTI - 4500 vs. 5300. I thought they were supposed to have identical engine tunes for 2016, too. WescottF1 fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Jan 5, 2016 |
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Jan 5, 2016 21:58
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Voltage posted:Same engine for gti and gli, and the gti performance pack gives you an extra 10hp but its just a software tune iirc. The real reason to buy the sport pack is the LSD.
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Jan 7, 2016 03:10
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My wife is going to start working in an office again (as opposed from home) and we're finally going to need a second car. This would be for me to drive when I can't use my motorcycle. I really want a new Abarth 5 speed. How crazy am I to buy this car? I'd be putting around 6,000 miles a year on it.
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Jan 7, 2016 15:28
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WescottF1 posted:I think what he's asking about is - on VW.com the GLI shows 207 lb-ft torque at 1700 RPM vs. the GTI's 258 lb-ft at 1500 RPM. Horsepower peaks at lower RPM on the GTI - 4500 vs. 5300. That has to be a PP GTI to get that kind of torque. Hahah, what? The GLI is only available as a stick and only comes with 18" wheels at over 30k. Type 2.0L inline four cylinder, 16V, turbocharged/ intercooled, TSI Bore 3.25 in Stroke 3.65 in Displacement 121 cu in Compression Ratio 9.6:1 Horsepower (SAE) @ rpm 210 hp @ 5300 rpm Maximum torque, lb-ft @ rpm 207 lb-ft @ 1700 rpm Fuel Requirement Regular unleaded (horsepower achieved with premium fuel) VS GTI PP loaded ENGINE Type 2.0L inline four cylinder, 16V, turbocharged/ intercooled, TS Bore 3.25 in Stroke 3.65 in Displacement 121 cu in Compression Ratio 9.6:1 Horsepower (SAE) @ rpm 220 hp @ 4700 rpm Maximum torque, lb-ft @ rpm 258 lb-ft @ 1500 rpm Fuel Requirement Regular unleaded (horsepower achieved with premium fuel) The difference being that the GLI doesn't get the powerpack option. You seem to actually get more for your money with the GLI since it comes with the lighting package and driver assistance package included. E: normal gti ENGINE Type 2.0L inline four cylinder, 16V, turbocharged/ intercooled, TS Bore 3.25 in Stroke 3.65 in Displacement 121 cu in Compression Ratio 9.6:1 Horsepower (SAE) @ rpm 210 hp @ 4500 rpm Maximum torque, lb-ft @ rpm 258 lb-ft @ 1500 rpm Fuel Requirement Regular unleaded (horsepower achieved with premium fuel) Not sure why the GTI ends up with more torks. VW magic I guess.
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Jan 7, 2016 15:44
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No. 6 posted:My wife is going to start working in an office again (as opposed from home) and we're finally going to need a second car. This would be for me to drive when I can't use my motorcycle. My understanding is that driving it is less fun than it should be and it's not a very good value.
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Jan 7, 2016 17:39
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Other options then? Not a huge fan of Mini. I kinda like the Civic Si coupe or Type R (who knows when that will get here or the price).
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Jan 7, 2016 17:57
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No. 6 posted:Other options then? Not a huge fan of Mini. I kinda like the Civic Si coupe or Type R (who knows when that will get here or the price). I like GTI/Type R, FiST/FoST and Mazdaspeed3. The Civic Si/Type R are supposed to both be great, as well. I can't imagine you'd be unhappy with any of them. Perhaps the Fiesta is a little small. WRX doesn't come in a hatch anymore, alas, but is obviously still great.
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Jan 7, 2016 18:33
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I'm completely over anything VAG. The Fiesta and Focus styling doesn't do it for me. Last time I tried the WRX it felt cheap. Maybe I'll check it again. Will also look into the Mazda.
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Jan 7, 2016 18:56
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BlackMK4 posted:The real reason to buy the sport pack is the LSD. The diff that "broke the laws of physics".
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Jan 7, 2016 19:41
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No. 6 posted:My wife is going to start working in an office again (as opposed from home) and we're finally going to need a second car. This would be for me to drive when I can't use my motorcycle. I have an Abarth and so do other dudes in the 500 thread. Somebody asked us our general impression of the car and what common issues we've seen. Here are our replies: Ehud posted:I have a 2013 Abarth. Here are some things to consider that I've realized as I've driven the car. Tanz-Kommandant posted:To add on/correct; If you have any other questions feel free to ask. I love my car 
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Jan 7, 2016 19:57
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It definitely turns heads and is a conversation starter. I've probably had 20 or 30 strangers talk to me about the car and I've only owned it since this summer.
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If you like your feet sitting at a weird angle, and the steering wheel not being centered to the seat, as well as a shifter that may as well be from a big rig, the fiat is great.
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Jan 7, 2016 20:03
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Just got a check for $100 in the mail from Ford regarding the red brake caliper issue on the Fiesta ST. I was wondering is anything was going to happen regarding that but didn't expect it to be handled so swiftly...big ups FoMoCo
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Jan 8, 2016 03:25
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Mariana Horchata posted:Just got a check for $100 in the mail from Ford regarding the red brake caliper issue on the Fiesta ST. I was wondering is anything was going to happen regarding that but didn't expect it to be handled so swiftly...big ups FoMoCo What is the issue with the red brake calipers?
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Jan 8, 2016 03:46
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GutBomb posted:What is the issue with the red brake calipers? Speaking of which: http://www.cjponyparts.com/mgp-brake-caliper-cover-set-with-st-logo-focus-st-2013-2016/p/BCCST-V/ lol
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Jan 8, 2016 03:55
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No. 6 posted:I'm completely over anything VAG. The Fiesta and Focus styling doesn't do it for me. Last time I tried the WRX it felt cheap. Maybe I'll check it again. Will also look into the Mazda. Not sure what your budget is like but have you considered the BMW 1 series hatch?
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Jan 8, 2016 06:21
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GutBomb posted:What is the issue with the red brake calipers? The optional ebony wheels for MY16 were supposed to include red caliper covers and instead many if not all vehicles that have this option ended up without them while the standard Rado wheels had them instead. I'm pretty sure that they are just red painted covers rather than powder coated calipers, and I'm secretly happier without them as they would just be inevitably covered with brake dust anyways as well as detract from the Q-ship look that I love very much - '16 Magnetic w/ Ebony wheels, looks like a basic bitch econobox to 98% of the people on the road and wears dirt/brake dust pretty well too unlike the extra cost white paint which I also fancied.  lovely pic but you get the idea Mariana Horchata fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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Jan 8, 2016 18:14
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Just wanna pop in and let everyone know the R is a BLAST in the snow. Completely predictable and very much able to get sideways. I'm betting my first ticket will end up being me hooning around in the snow vs speeding on a normal day.
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Jan 8, 2016 20:01
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Mariana Horchata posted:The optional ebony wheels for MY16 were supposed to include red caliper covers and instead many if not all vehicles that have this option ended up without them while the standard Rado wheels had them instead. I'm pretty sure that they are just red painted covers rather than powder coated calipers, and I'm secretly happier without them as they would just be inevitably covered with brake dust anyways as well as detract from the Q-ship look that I love very much - '16 Magnetic w/ Ebony wheels, looks like a basic bitch econobox to 98% of the people on the road and wears dirt/brake dust pretty well too unlike the extra cost white paint which I also fancied. Oh god those rear brakes with wheels that big look hilarious
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Jan 8, 2016 20:33
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Mariana Horchata posted:I'm pretty sure that they are just red painted covers rather than powder coated calipers, and I'm secretly happier without them as they would just be inevitably covered with brake dust anyways as well as detract from the Q-ship look that I love very much - '16 Magnetic w/ Ebony wheels, looks like a basic bitch econobox to 98% of the people on the road and wears dirt/brake dust pretty well too unlike the extra cost white paint which I also fancied. No covers, the calipers are painted or powder coated red. I wanted the ebony wheels, but ordered it with standard because I didn't want the red calipers. They won't replace them because it's an upgrade I didn't pay for.
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Jan 8, 2016 20:40
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iwentdoodie posted:Oh god those rear brakes with wheels that big look hilarious yeah kinda true but hey they do work real nice, and allow for good ole 15" steelies to be fitted for snowtime supremacy. oxbrain posted:No covers, the calipers are painted or powder coated red. hard times man...sux
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Jan 8, 2016 22:29
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Mariana Horchata posted:yeah kinda true but hey they do work real nice, and allow for good ole 15" steelies to be fitted for snowtime supremacy. Oh, I know the brakes are totally fine. Just the wheels are so massive and have such large openings that it looks hilariously tiny, especially at that angle. I'm only negging it because I want one.
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Jan 8, 2016 22:44
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On one of the forums I surf when bored, some guy was already asking about buying a 4000$ big brake kit for his 16 R. He couldn't come up with a reason for why he needed them when everyone asked.  The stock brakes on my R will put you through the windshield on dry pavement.
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Jan 8, 2016 22:55
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veedubfreak posted:The stock brakes on my R will put you through the windshield on dry pavement. I feel the same way and the initial bite feels almost on the same level as my old 95M Miata with Carbotech AX6 pads all around (minus sounding like a train pulling into the station), hopefully the Motorcraft replacement pads are the same aggressive but dirty design...if anybody happens to know if they aren't the same please let me know but I have faith that they would be the same.
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Jan 8, 2016 23:11
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