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BabeLiker90 posted:I'm sensing some tension brewing. idgi
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Anyway, my vote on Podima is for a scummy post but I've also found it counterproductive to assume someone else is "deflecting" on day 1 and such. It can lead to mishangs pretty easily, not a fan of going down that route. The omission may have been innocent or it may have been because he's scum and only focusing on "town points of momentum/limelight" since scum naturally do that. I think if they were scum friends he would have mentioned my vote as something he disagreed with or agreed with. Scum get nervous about pressure on their teammates and often work in a light defense or bus, I find.
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Jan 8, 2016 17:54
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Ridonkulous posted:I had overlooked it. I get your point but I see it as fluff posting and not necessarily scummy. So as much as I do not agree with your vote I do not find it "scummy". So are you saying that you were only listing votes you found suspicious when you were going over stuff earlier?
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Jan 8, 2016 17:55
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BabeLiker90 posted:Anyway, my vote on Podima is for a scummy post but I've also found it counterproductive to assume someone else is "deflecting" on day 1 and such. It can lead to mishangs pretty easily, not a fan of going down that route. The omission may have been innocent or it may have been because he's scum and only focusing on "town points of momentum/limelight" since scum naturally do that. I think if they were scum friends he would have mentioned my vote as something he disagreed with or agreed with. Scum get nervous about pressure on their teammates and often work in a light defense or bus, I find. Maybe. I find it worth discussing though, especially in light of my already raised suspicion on ridik based on his exchange with ixt.
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Jan 8, 2016 17:56
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So anyway guys, I'm the Town Catapultist. I can pick one of you and fling you at the other camp, killing both people involved. I have to do it day 1 (clearly a thinning of the herd tactic by Ecco) so let me know who you're interested in me targeting.
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Jan 8, 2016 18:00
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BabeLiker90 posted:So anyway guys, I'm the Town Catapultist. I can pick one of you and fling you at the other camp, killing both people involved. I have to do it day 1 (clearly a thinning of the herd tactic by Ecco) so let me know who you're interested in me targeting. do you have an idea of who you're sending?
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Jan 8, 2016 18:01
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I was thinking Madman, Podima, or Birdstrike as of now. I'm open to suggestions.
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Jan 8, 2016 18:05
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Personal taste would be to remove a lurker. I realize it's d1, and the thread opened yesterday, but d1 has another 75 hours to it and I think by then we should have a pretty clear indication of lurking vs not
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Jan 8, 2016 18:08
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Well the logical answer would be to hit quandary 
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Jan 8, 2016 18:14
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Would that I could. My role specifically prohibits that for obvious reasons.
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Jan 8, 2016 18:15
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BabeLiker90 posted:Would that I could. My role specifically prohibits that for obvious reasons. don't kill welandonthemoon apparently he's attacking his own people over there 
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Jan 8, 2016 18:15
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jesus christ the other thread is terrible Merk would be a good bet cuz Merk I guess
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Jan 8, 2016 18:18
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BabeLiker90 posted:So anyway guys, I'm the Town Catapultist. I can pick one of you and fling you at the other camp, killing both people involved. I have to do it day 1 (clearly a thinning of the herd tactic by Ecco) so let me know who you're interested in me targeting. I'm betting this is a fakeclaim meant to stir up content, but I already answered this one: Podima posted:Looking over the other thread, I'd pick WLOTM has been actively scumhunting in the other thread and is an unknown quantity to me - and now that I catch up over there, he's just claimed a day attack power, which is pretty funny so I'd rather not kill him anymore. I'd rather kill TNL since he's pretty solid at scumhunting from what I've seen. As far as your vote on me goes, I already said that I'm bad at jokephase and come off as awkward because that's just how I tend to post when town. If you look at my other games, I got d1 lynched as town in anidav's console wars game for similar reasons, but was much more confident and jokey in captain foo's wizard game. I'm still pretty new to mafia - this is like my third or fourth serious game - and haven't figured out a good town game yet. Also, question because I haven't seen it in any other SA games before - what's the benefit of lights out voting as an option in this game? Wouldn't that basically be enabling a chain lynch?
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Jan 8, 2016 18:18
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It seems more valuable to talk about people to kill in our thread rather than what's going on in the other thread though? So my shortlist would be: bowmore - history of lurking, has posted some but mostly focused on needling Kash and the ixt slapfight? rascyc - no content whatsoever other than a gut vote chic - as mentioned, hasn't posted a single time yet (F_V hinted there might be some IRL stuff going on?) f_v - no content whatsoever other than snipey comments about other players' interactions (tmm/kash and ixt) Killing people who won't produce content seems like a smarter move with that kind of ability - people who produce content can be hung upon it later.
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Jan 8, 2016 18:22
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Gamerofthegame posted:maybe you should have waited until he had more then three content posts to use this argument Maybe I should have? Sitting around waiting for other people to respond is significantly less fun than actually trying to case people. The fact that he replied with a case on Gwyn, to me, was enough to justify sharing my rationale.
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Jan 8, 2016 18:34
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lights out gives the ability to thin things out quickly and if you're 100% sure you've found scum, lights out can let you lynch scum while also giving you the ability to do real scumhunting and disallow the scum that night action before trying to find another.
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Jan 8, 2016 18:36
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Gamerofthegame posted:##unvote I guess Feels overwrought
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Jan 8, 2016 18:37
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Dominoes posted:Go on: do you think it's scummy, pointless, or something else? Scummy, duh. It hedges in Kash and backs of in a way that doesn't feel town to me
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Jan 8, 2016 18:46
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EXAKT Science posted:Scummy, duh. It hedges in Kash and backs of in a way that doesn't feel town to me  I got more of a joke vibe from that post idk.
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Jan 8, 2016 18:52
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Hi I'm here in the thread posting.
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Jan 8, 2016 18:57
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Murmur Twin posted:Geez you guys are impatient! I just wanted to take a minute to laugh at this reasoning. First of all, I knew this was exactly what MMT was going to use as her reason for voting me which is why I didn't bother to address her. I find it hilarious because I was basically asked to play nice in the sign up thread and now that I'm playing nice you want to hang me for it. Second, usually I get argumentative when I'm vanilla town because I have to create my own fun. I am generally more relaxed in the first couple of days when I have an actual role. Third, why would I bother attacking a single vote on me when 13 votes are needed for a lynch? Scum like to put pressure on me because I often end up being aggressive in my defense and they use that aggression to distract town from their play. Your vote was bad, but I would have been more interested in people jumping on the vote after you. I don't know why people keep trying to perpetuate the idea that I vigorously call everyone who votes for me scum when that just isn't true at all. And it's especially true in the bigger games like this one. I don't know if MMT is scum, but I think she is using some faulty reasoning to vote me.
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Jan 8, 2016 18:58
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Dominoes posted:Mafia philosophy: You're not in danger of being lynched. Do you think it's useful to question someone's vote for you for its own sake?
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Jan 8, 2016 18:58
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Podima posted:It seems more valuable to talk about people to kill in our thread rather than what's going on in the other thread though? So my shortlist would be: Wont no posters be replaced? So someone like chic would probably get replaced by someone who will catch up, but someone who is lurking or shitposting f_v would be my choice.
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Jan 8, 2016 19:01
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Got lots of responding to do in no particular order so starting here:CapitalistPig posted:I had a night 0 cop investigation and ixtlilton is scum Why would've you investigated Ixt out of all people?
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Jan 8, 2016 19:04
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Gwynplaine posted:It's day one and all I can think about is battle. Brother? Gwynplaine posted:Doesn't matter if our leader thinks I'm scum anyways. You're neither nor. You've just chained a vote for no real reason than other what I can assume is a history with birdstrike, and your eager to actually kill discussion on D1 or either rendering moot by proposing a non-execution. bowmore posted:nah because your probably scum and you are too hard to read because you post scummy all the time That's a bad reason. tithin posted:GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD EVENING DARLINGS AND GENTLE-DARLINGS If it's because of his post voting Ridonkulous I get where your coming from. It's weird he wants a 2nd opinion on a D1 vote, most of which are based on gut or dumb reasons at best. I'd get it if he had more of a case or if the game were further along and he didn't want to toss his vote with abandon, but here there's very little to be lost voting out right. EccoRaven posted:Arrentish males are considered too irrational and unemotional, and have few civil and economic rights. Military enlistment is one of their sole paths for citizenship, though many in the Empire wish to change that status quo. How is one considered to be irrationally stoic?
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Jan 8, 2016 19:05
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Murmur Twin posted:Yeah, it's a meta case based on a small sample size, but so far it's my strongest read. My sample size with TMM is just one game, but this isn't altogether unreasonable. TMMadman posted:I don't know if MMT is scum, but I think she is using some faulty reasoning to vote me. I'd optimistically rather hope you've learned to mellow out a bit than be scum so this is good enough for me for now.
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Jan 8, 2016 19:06
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BabeLiker90 posted:So anyway guys, I'm the Town Catapultist. I can pick one of you and fling you at the other camp, killing both people involved. I have to do it day 1 (clearly a thinning of the herd tactic by Ecco) so let me know who you're interested in me targeting. I saw you mentioned this earlier. I'd opt for myself only because I know that while I'm a good soldier (bruiser in battle that can take a fair share of hits) I know that I'm otherwise not all that useful to the mafia meta game (let's say vanilla) and I'd rather give up a known quantity like that than risk losing someone that could be more useful. I haven't looked at the other thread at all though (and won't) and while merk is a 'good' option I hate that he has to always be forced to die early because of his fame and would rather just go with your own judgement or Max's.
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Jan 8, 2016 19:08
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Rascyc posted:What was the idea of listing possible answers alongside your question here?
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Jan 8, 2016 19:10
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Doktor Per posted:^^^^ ##vote doktor per You could just post better? Forgoing your pointless joke vote? This was a garbage post and it shouldn't just be passed over in the crowded field of posts we've had since the game started.
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Jan 8, 2016 19:10
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The problem with d1 meta cases is good luck trying to convince a majority of people to actually click your links, read them, draw the necessary parallels to current game, and then try to think how they could be different and come to your own conclusion. By the time that's happened, a hundred new posts have popped up and the thread has moved on.
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Jan 8, 2016 19:11
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Dominoes posted:Those were the explanations I thought of; it gave Ridonk somewhere to start.
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Jan 8, 2016 19:12
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I'm interested in hearing other people's thoughts on who from our thread should be catapulted, but I imagine they will all be the same. I will say nothing of who should be targeted in the other thread for painfully obvious reasons. My personal tendency is to get rid of lurkers, but it's still quite early in day 1 right now to start poking people for that. If you're going to contribute to the thread then I'd rather not send you over the top via catapult.
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Jan 8, 2016 19:12
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Max posted:I'm interested in hearing other people's thoughts on who from our thread should be catapulted, but I imagine they will all be the same. I will say nothing of who should be targeted in the other thread for painfully obvious reasons. This was in response to 100yrs. But why would you volunteer to be catapulted as town?
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Jan 8, 2016 19:13
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Max posted:I'm interested in hearing other people's thoughts on who from our thread should be catapulted, but I imagine they will all be the same. What do you mean by this?
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Jan 8, 2016 19:15
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Lurkers instead of people that are posting.
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Jan 8, 2016 19:15
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Kash; you've posted a lot. Here's what I've got from you about suspicions: -Murmur's vote on TMM is suspicious because she's unwilling to back up her vote with reasoning -Birdstrike is more likely to be scum than Doktor, regarding votes on BabeLiker Do you have any guesses of who the sum are.? Are there any players you'd defend if, accused? I ask because I'm more suspicious of you than of anyone else.
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Jan 8, 2016 19:19
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Counterpoint: Lurkers are you best bet of winning the ground war. Reference: Starcraft: Brood War.
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Jan 8, 2016 19:19
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Max posted:This was in response to 100yrs. Like I said, I'm essentially vanilla, discounting my battle role, and unless we know who the scum is for sure I feel it's a bit of a crapshoot, and rather than risk shooting someone of actual importance better to go with a null choice in my opinion. It's especially due to the nature of the vig, it's not just killing someone in our game but rather an assault on there's, so that's the trade-off I see for it. If he was just weeding out only our thread then I think the circumstances are different since we need our town to stay alive, but here it's a 1:1 tradeoff so better send vanilla than risking a power role that we can still make use of.
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Jan 8, 2016 19:19
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Actually I want 100yrs to get tossed. Sounds like a big hail mary scum gambit to not get tossed imo because he's willing I'm not entirely sure I'd vote on him for just that, not over others anyway, but if someone has to get tossed . . .
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Doktor Per posted:ugh, i asked to be in the cool people thread. This came before that weird joke vote post of his. What's up with the good Doktor?
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