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kalel
Jun 19, 2012

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

i'd be shocked if the roadshow cut isn't the primary version released on blu ray

Me too. There's a lot of films that keep the intermission in the movie release. Gandhi is the first one that comes to mind.

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pwn
May 27, 2004

This Christmas get "Shoes"









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Uncle Boogeyman posted:

i'd be shocked if the roadshow cut isn't the primary version released on blu ray
I'd be shocked if it was ever released on home media. QT took his sweet time getting Jackie Brown on DVD and Grindhouse proper on BluRay, and we're still waiting for The Whole Bloody Affair.

I'd love to be wrong though.

JeffLeonard
Apr 18, 2003

TV Violence

SciFiDownBeat posted:

Me too. There's a lot of films that keep the intermission in the movie release. Gandhi is the first one that comes to mind.

My 2001 Bluray has the intermission.

pwn
May 27, 2004

This Christmas get "Shoes"









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My It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World VHS has the intermission

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

pwn posted:

I'd be shocked if it was ever released on home media. QT took his sweet time getting Jackie Brown on DVD and Grindhouse proper on BluRay, and we're still waiting for The Whole Bloody Affair.

I'd love to be wrong though.

The Whole Bloody Affair was never going to happen

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

The Whole Bloody Affair was never going to happen

Yeah, that's a snowjob if I've ever seen one.

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

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Uncle Boogeyman posted:

i'd be shocked if the roadshow cut isn't the primary version released on blu ray

I don't think Quentin Tarantino really cares about the BluRay editions of his films so the easiest path (regular run version) is the safer bet.

I'd like to be otherwise surprised, but I'd also like to watch The Whole Bloody Affair on BluRay too. It definitely exists by the way, just not as a home video release. Like this version of Kill Bill, I'd bet that the roadshow version of Hateful Eight will show up at The New Beverly but nowhere else.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

But the roadshow of H8 was a big deal and screened at 100 or so theaters in its initial run, the Whole Bloody Affair played like, what, once at a film festival? Supposedly?

After the big deal everyone made about the 70mm roadshow and how that was The Way to See It I find the idea that it wouldn't see home release completely absurd

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

The Whole Bloody Affair was never going to happen

It's like wishing for that 5 hour cut of Django that QT mentioned having once.

H8 will have both cuts if I had to guess. Both cuts are done and ready for Blu-Ray basically, whereas The Whole Bloody Affair would take QT going back and editing it the way he wanted it originally or whatever.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

MacheteZombie posted:

It's like wishing for that 5 hour cut of Django that QT mentioned having once.

H8 will have both cuts if I had to guess. Both cuts are done and ready for Blu-Ray basically, whereas The Whole Bloody Affair would take QT going back and editing it the way he wanted it originally or whatever.

i think by the time his next movie rolls around, the 160 minute cut is going to be remembered as a blu ray bonus feature, for completists only.

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

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Uncle Boogeyman posted:

But the roadshow of H8 was a big deal and screened at 100 or so theaters in its initial run, the Whole Bloody Affair played like, what, once at a film festival? Supposedly?

I understand that it last played at The New Beverly a few weeks ago on Christmas day. Back in 2011, it played there for a week and I believe it shows up every once in a while (there only). Correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm just saying that he seems to care about it showing up at his personal theatre but that the BluRay isn't happening.

I'd LOVE to see the roadshow version of H8 on BluRay. I just won't get excited for it until it's actually in my hands.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

i think you'll be fine. if they can retrofit a whole bunch of AMCs nationwide with 70mm projectors specificslly for this one movie, they can put out a blu ray.

zandert33
Sep 20, 2002

MacheteZombie posted:

It's like wishing for that 5 hour cut of Django that QT mentioned having once.

H8 will have both cuts if I had to guess. Both cuts are done and ready for Blu-Ray basically, whereas The Whole Bloody Affair would take QT going back and editing it the way he wanted it originally or whatever.

I thought the "Whole Bloody Affair" actually screened already years back.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007
Yeah I apparently missed the post above mine mentioning it screening. I never realized there was still a copy after the ordered split. The wiki says the one that was screened at the New Beverly was the Cannes one and includes the required French subtitles.

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.
I think a saw from a few journalists on Twitter that occasionally Tarantino will screen "The Whole Bloody Affair" at the New Beverly, since he has the only print, but I doubt it'll ever see a proper release. I also doubt this Roadshow release will show up on Blu-Ray.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

DrVenkman posted:

I also doubt this Roadshow release will show up on Blu-Ray.

I'm confident enough to bet money on it

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



I get the impression Tarantino wanted the roadshow version to be the authentic cinematic experience of Hateful Eight. I can definitely see him not wanting to tarnish that with a Blu Ray release. Otherwise he'd have released that cut in cinemas that aren't equipped to project 70mm film.

Megasabin
Sep 9, 2003

I get half!!

temple posted:

I think flashback was unnecessary because when combined with the finale, it magnified the mood from dark to pitch black. It needed a wink or something. Tarantino really likes to punish his audience so I'm not really surprised. But I'd like to know if a film is torture porn before I'm 90 minutes in.

You are using torture porn very loosely. This film wasn't even that violent, and when it was, the violence was practically cartoon like in its use of gore. Watching daisy hang was probably the only realistic violence in the movie.

CountFosco
Jan 9, 2012

Welcome back to the Liturgigoon thread, friend.
Does anyone in the Boston area know which screen in the Boston area is the best to watch this on?

Edit: in terms of screen size and quality of projection

Anonymous John
Mar 8, 2002
Somerville Theater, the Coolidge has it too in 70mm but Somerville's screen is bigger.

CountFosco
Jan 9, 2012

Welcome back to the Liturgigoon thread, friend.
Thanks my friend. Pretty sure the somerville will be easier to park at too. (I'm driving down from Maine)

Harime Nui
Apr 15, 2008

The New Insincerity
The Whole Bloody Affair has been on my amazon wish list for like three years are you guys sure it's never coming :sweatdrop:

Pastry Mistakes
Apr 6, 2009

I'm having the damndest time finding if this is still in theaters in 70mm format. Anyone here know any theaters in socal still showing the wide release?

WIFEY WATCHDOG
Jun 25, 2012

Yeah, well I don't trust this guy. I think he regifted, he degifted, and now he's using an upstairs invite as a springboard to a Super Bowl sex romp.

Apeshit Sixfingers posted:

I'm having the damndest time finding if this is still in theaters in 70mm format. Anyone here know any theaters in socal still showing the wide release?

don;t worry about it, it's a bad movie and not nearly beautiful enough to warrant any special screening.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

CountFosco posted:

Does anyone in the Boston area know which screen in the Boston area is the best to watch this on?

Edit: in terms of screen size and quality of projection

CountFosco posted:

Thanks my friend. Pretty sure the somerville will be easier to park at too. (I'm driving down from Maine)

i'll second this, i love the Somerville theater

Harime Nui
Apr 15, 2008

The New Insincerity
Just watched the movie for the second time. More thoughts:

+Rewatching it with foreknowledge that everybody already in the cabin except General Smithers is in Jody Domingre's Gang, I love the way Daisy instantly smiles at English Pete's grandiose introduction---but also great is that Daisy is actually pretty rattled by Pete's whole monologue about "I will pull the lever that sends you to your maker, and to me it will be just another day on the job," and isn't just acting. Out of all them Pete's clearly the gifted actor who's relishing his part just a little too much for Daisy's liking. I mean, the first time I saw it I thought Tim Roth's performance was kind of the weak link of the ensemble because he's so "aren't I cool!?" but that's basically English Pete is obviously just having the time of his life ACTING.

+Grouch Douglas even does little things with this kind of delay-flourish movement, even tossing away a snowshoe with a backspin.

+Jody is, of course, a handsome man and his neatly parted hair seems like an important part of his character but something I only noticed this time around is that his teeth are kind of hosed up, something you can only see a flash of and which he seems to try and hide.

+The first time he appears, Mannix is carrying a lit lantern---literally carrying the fire, to borrow an image from a Cormac McCarthy novel.

+I actually misremembered that it's Mannix who brings up the difference between his father's renegade army and the Jody Domingre Gang apropos of really nothing---I thought Daisy made the fatal mistake of comparing them. But clearly she had thought Mannix, as a fellow southerner, would be sympatico and in fact early in the wagonride says something like "you're my kind of people."

+One of the final shots in the movie technically has all four of the passengers from Part I reunited---Daisy hangs in front of the bleeding-out Marquis and Mannix while John Ruth is present in the form of his severed arm, still manacled to Daisy----in fact, the four characters are more or less arranged in the same way they were in the stagecoach. Symmetry!

+John Ruth and Daisy Domergue have a really, really weird relationship. He feeds her and hauls her around, they often act as one body to pour drinks or grab things, they occasionally smile or laugh with rather than at each other. I guess psychologically speaking, being chained to someone for however many days would make it hard to completely keep up a purely hostile front the whole time.

+"How about a little snakebite in your coffee?" :haw:

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Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Megasabin posted:

You are using torture porn very loosely. This film wasn't even that violent, and when it was, the violence was practically cartoon like in its use of gore. Watching daisy hang was probably the only realistic violence in the movie.

I wouldn't say the gore is unrealistic or cartoonish.

I actually realized watching Pulp Fiction recently that KB 1 and 2 are the only movies where Tarantino really indulges in heavily stylized, balletic violence (and even then you have the nasty as Hell trailer fight in 2.) Most of the time violence in his films is like in life- nasty, messy, even awkward. Consider the part in PF where Marcellus and Butch are just stumbling around after the car crash.

Hijinks Ensue
Jul 24, 2007
Oscar nominations are in. Hateful Eight got nommed for Original Score, Cinematography, and JJL as Best Supporting Actress.

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




Maxwell Lord posted:

I wouldn't say the gore is unrealistic or cartoonish.

Well you can say that... but you'd be quite wrong.

Hijinks Ensue posted:

Oscar nominations are in. Hateful Eight got nommed for Original Score, Cinematography, and JJL as Best Supporting Actress.

I haven't seen all of the movies that're getting nominated in these categories, but H8 is at the top for me.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

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You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

Johnny Truant posted:

Well you can say that... but you'd be quite wrong.


I haven't seen all of the movies that're getting nominated in these categories, but H8 is at the top for me.

The only unrealistic gore in H8 is Marquis literally blowing Bob's head off. The rest of it seemed pretty realistic.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007
Is there a poison that makes you throw up blood in way that Ruth does? I found that pretty cartoony/Evil Deadish.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

MacheteZombie posted:

Is there a poison that makes you throw up blood in way that Ruth does? I found that pretty cartoony/Evil Deadish.

Oh I forgot about that. Yeah I don't think the effects of poisoning were realistic either. They were pretty great though, really got the point across.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

Snak posted:

Oh I forgot about that. Yeah I don't think the effects of poisoning were realistic either. They were pretty great though, really got the point across.

It was a wonderful scene haha

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




Snak posted:

The only unrealistic gore in H8 is Marquis literally blowing Bob's head off. The rest of it seemed pretty realistic.

Hmmmmm no, every bullet wound is pretty over-the-top. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, I love it, but it is definitely unrealistic.

MacheteZombie posted:

It was a wonderful scene haha

:agreed:

It reminds me of the puke scene from Team America in its absurdity of just forcefully vomiting.

Cacator
Aug 6, 2005

You're quite good at turning me on.

Johnny Truant posted:

Well you can say that... but you'd be quite wrong.


I haven't seen all of the movies that're getting nominated in these categories, but H8 is at the top for me.

It's got an uphill battle in cinematography against Revenant and Sicario.

zandert33
Sep 20, 2002

Maxwell Lord posted:

I wouldn't say the gore is unrealistic or cartoonish.

I actually realized watching Pulp Fiction recently that KB 1 and 2 are the only movies where Tarantino really indulges in heavily stylized, balletic violence (and even then you have the nasty as Hell trailer fight in 2.) Most of the time violence in his films is like in life- nasty, messy, even awkward. Consider the part in PF where Marcellus and Butch are just stumbling around after the car crash.

In Django Unchained, Candie's sister gets blown across the room with a shotgun.

Harime Nui
Apr 15, 2008

The New Insincerity
He uses a pistol.

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

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Cacator posted:

It's got an uphill battle in cinematography against Revenant and Sicario.

Yeah it would be a huge surprise if it beat either of those. I'd love to see JJL get best supporting because she deserves it but it will probably go to Vikander.

Morricone, on the other hand, stands a good chance. That score is great and it's embarrassing that he's only ever won an honorary award. The guy is 88 and he's still really active and still writing amazing scores.

Hijinks Ensue
Jul 24, 2007
I'm really, really hoping Morricone gets the award. Such a long career, and so diverse. I have a few albums of his score work and what I love most is all the bonkers stuff he did for Italian spy movies and thrillers that never (or barely) got released in the US. And then he did some beautiful stuff like the score for The Mission.

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Cacator
Aug 6, 2005

You're quite good at turning me on.

Hijinks Ensue posted:

I'm really, really hoping Morricone gets the award. Such a long career, and so diverse. I have a few albums of his score work and what I love most is all the bonkers stuff he did for Italian spy movies and thrillers that never (or barely) got released in the US. And then he did some beautiful stuff like the score for The Mission.

They gave him an honorary Oscar a few years back as consolation already, but yeah it would be nice if he finally got one "for real".

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