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Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


Dark Knight wasn't just a hit, it was legitimately really good and has turned out to be influential.

As far as your annual Oscar outrages, Steve Jobs made no money, wasn't that well-liked by critics, and has the ever scandalous issues of accuracy, which of course don't apply to a Steve Jobs movie. The Hateful Eight didn't get a Best Picture nomination, as the Academy is content to relegate Tarantino to Screenplay again.

quote:

How was Mad Max not nominated for best Original Score?

Also this, what the gently caress. I went out and bought this OST immediately after seeing it and I hardly ever do that.

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ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012
I don't understand all the unconditional love for The Martian and Star Wars. The former had fantastic set production and Matt Damon being Matt Damon, and the latter had... idk, nostalgia value and good music, but the level of support those two movies got boggles my mind. Star Wars especially, because I think it's an undeniably bad movie and I'm utterly confused at it's universal praise, and I'm just as confused as putting The Martian up for Best Picture. Really?

I'm glad that Ex Machina and Inside Out got some nominations. Inside Out is probably the shoe-in for best animated picture because it was good and popular and the academy can't be arsed to give a poo poo about any of the other candidates, as usual. Anomalisa looks interesting though and seems to have gotten decent mainstream presence, so maybe it'll manage a surprise victory?

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

ViggyNash posted:

I don't understand all the unconditional love for The Martian and Star Wars. The former had fantastic set production and Matt Damon being Matt Damon, and the latter had... idk, nostalgia value and good music, but the level of support those two movies got boggles my mind. Star Wars especially, because I think it's an undeniably bad movie and I'm utterly confused at it's universal praise, and I'm just as confused as putting The Martian up for Best Picture. Really?

I'm glad that Ex Machina and Inside Out got some nominations. Inside Out is probably the shoe-in for best animated picture because it was good and popular and the academy can't be arsed to give a poo poo about any of the other candidates, as usual. Anomalisa looks interesting though and seems to have gotten decent mainstream presence, so maybe it'll manage a surprise victory?

What do you hate about it? I am mixed on Star Wars.

Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012

Kull the Conqueror posted:

No need to be diminutive of specialist awards. That's the good poo poo.

Yeah I mean generally the only actual value most award shows have is the same thing as any, like, ordered list or whatever. There's a little bit of creating a historical document but primarily it's just, hey yo these are the movies that these people think you should check out.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP
World of Tomorrow is on Netflix, it's pretty good.

Colonel Whitey
May 22, 2004

This shit's about to go off.
The Mad Max score was fine but extremely simplistic. John Williams' worst score would beat it easily.

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

Colonel Whitey posted:

The Mad Max score was fine but extremely simplistic. John Williams' worst score would beat it easily.

Minimalism is a thing.

Alec Eiffel
Sep 7, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
I really like the track "The Scavenger" from The Force Awakens' score.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
If Leo loses again I hope he storms out of the theater.

OregonDonor
Mar 12, 2010
Wow, Sicario totally got snubbed. It's the best flick I saw all year. I watched The Revenant and wasn't all that impressed with it.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Colonel Whitey posted:

The Mad Max score was fine but extremely simplistic. John Williams' worst score would beat it easily.

Less is more.

Terrorist Fistbump
Jan 29, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

OregonDonor posted:

Wow, Sicario totally got snubbed. It's the best flick I saw all year. I watched The Revenant and wasn't all that impressed with it.

Sicario better win for score and cinematography.

Cross-Section
Mar 18, 2009

Alec Eiffel posted:

I really like the track "The Scavenger" from The Force Awakens' score.

I think Rey's Theme, and its use throughout the film (like in the above track), gives the score a decent shot at actually winning the category. It's truly an exquisite piece.

Mars4523
Feb 17, 2014
What the hell is The Martian doing with a Best Picture nod? It's a good, fun movie, but that's all it is, and certainly not good enough to be the best movie of 2015.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Mars4523 posted:

What the hell is The Martian doing with a Best Picture nod? It's a good, fun movie, but that's all it is, and certainly not good enough to be the best movie of 2015.

And it's a comedy too, and the Oscars usually don't go big on them!

Shneak
Mar 6, 2015

A sad Professor Plum
sitting on a toilet.
Thank god Star Wars didn't get shoehorned in.

Chris Rock is going to be absolutely miserable.

Colonel Whitey
May 22, 2004

This shit's about to go off.

Judakel posted:

Minimalism is a thing.

It wasn't minimalist though? Repetition and a lack of sophistication is not the same thing as minimalism. It worked well enough but it definitely was not Oscar worthy.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



computer parts posted:

World of Tomorrow is on Netflix, it's pretty good.

Don Hertzfeldt is awesome. I loved Inside-Out but I gotta cheer for the underdog.




As for the rest, god, I'm so bad at this. gently caress Redmayne and go Mad Max!

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

Colonel Whitey posted:

It wasn't minimalist though? Repetition and a lack of sophistication is not the same thing as minimalism. It worked well enough but it definitely was not Oscar worthy.

It was.

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!

Mars4523 posted:

What the hell is The Martian doing with a Best Picture nod? It's a good, fun movie, but that's all it is, and certainly not good enough to be the best movie of 2015.

To be honest, 2015 was a pretty slow year overall so I can imagine a movie like The Martian (which was just entertaining as gently caress, well-paced and a delight) sneaking in.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Is this whole thread going to be people who haven't seen the other nominated films chirping about Mad Max and Star Wars

Zachack
Jun 1, 2000




BeanpolePeckerwood posted:

Don Hertzfeldt is awesome. I loved Inside-Out but I gotta cheer for the underdog.

You can cheer for both because they are in different categories.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Vegetable posted:

Is this whole thread going to be people who haven't seen the other nominated films chirping about Mad Max and Star Wars

Honestly I just desperately do not want The Danish Girl to win. That movie is the drizzling loving shits.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

LORD OF BUTT posted:

Honestly I just desperately do not want The Danish Girl to win. That movie is the drizzling loving shits.
Its only big nomination is for acting. Maybe not Redmayne, but Vikander thoroughly deserves the award.

People shouldn't conflate a bad film with its constituent parts. A very bad film can have good acting, writing, cinematography and whatnot.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

LORD OF BUTT posted:

Honestly I just desperately do not want The Danish Girl to win. That movie is the drizzling loving shits.

Please elaborate. I instinctively avoided it, it smelt oscar baity, but i'd like to know why I should specifically be avoiding it.

Terrorist Fistbump
Jan 29, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Justin Godscock posted:

To be honest, 2015 was a pretty slow year overall so I can imagine a movie like The Martian (which was just entertaining as gently caress, well-paced and a delight) sneaking in.

2015 was one of the best years in recent memory for film! The Martian might not be in my top 20 once I'm all caught up. Not that it's bad, there was just so many better films. I can see why they nominated it -- gotta tease that lucrative young adult audience into watching -- but I would be absolutely stunned if it won best picture.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Snowman_McK posted:

Please elaborate. I instinctively avoided it, it smelt oscar baity, but i'd like to know why I should specifically be avoiding it.

It takes the story of an actual trans person and reframes it into a forced-feminization fetish story. That alone is absolutely disgusting and warrants the movie just being stricken from the loving record entirely in my book. Also, Redmayne's performance is absolutely ridiculous (he basically plays his character as Divine), even discounting the shittiness of casting a cis dude to play a trans woman. Plus, it outright lies about what happened to Lili Elbe to make her wife look more sympathetic and make it a ~tragic love story~ when, in reality, Elbe's wife was kind of a lovely person.

e: I mean, no poo poo you shouldn't expect historical accuracy from Oscar bait biopics, but this is some seriously insidious poo poo that's actively harmful to LGBT people.

WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Jan 15, 2016

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

LORD OF BUTT posted:

It takes the story of an actual trans person and reframes it into a forced-feminization fetish story. That alone is absolutely disgusting and warrants the movie just being stricken from the loving record entirely in my book. Also, Redmayne's performance is absolutely ridiculous (he basically plays his character as Divine), even discounting the shittiness of casting a cis dude to play a trans woman. Plus, it outright lies about what happened to Lili Elbe to make her wife look more sympathetic and make it a ~tragic love story~ when, in reality, Elbe's wife was kind of a lovely person.

e: I mean, no poo poo you shouldn't expect historical accuracy from Oscar bait biopics, but this is some seriously insidious poo poo that's actively harmful to LGBT people.
It's based on a book that's a fictionalized version of Elbe's life. It's not meant to be particularly accurate.

Also, no idea what a "forced-feminization fetish story" is, but I'd like to see that movie.

cat doter
Jul 27, 2006



gonna need more cheese...australia has a lot of crackers
I didn't even hear about room and spotlight until a few days ago, are they any good? I watched all the best picture noms last year and was kind of annoyed by how lovely a lot of them were

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Vegetable posted:

It's based on a book that's a fictionalized version of Elbe's life. It's not meant to be particularly accurate.

Also, no idea what a "forced-feminization fetish story" is, but I'd like to see that movie.

I'm not particularly okay with the book either. Also, if you don't know what that is, you're probably better off that way.

(I am also hardly the first person to poo poo on it for being a fetish story disguised as a legitimate portrayal of a trans person.)

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
Seriously, one of the most harmful and hosed up things you can possibly do when making a biopic about an LGBT person is erase their LGBT-ness and portray it as a kink. You are literally setting back decades of progress if you make a work that does that, even moreso if it actually becomes acclaimed.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

LORD OF BUTT posted:

I'm not particularly okay with the book either. Also, if you don't know what that is, you're probably better off that way.

(I am also hardly the first person to poo poo on it for being a fetish story disguised as a legitimate portrayal of a trans person.)
The first and the last essays aren't even written by people who have seen the film, and the second article has the most pedantic criticism I've read: the film "fails to address the reality of life after sex reassignment surgery and the need to treat comorbid psychological disorders." Of course it doesn't, Elbe dies after the last of her surgeries. There was no way the film could have accurately done what the author is requesting.

I've dug deep into this film as somebody who cares personally about the trans movement. It makes a lot of missteps. But the film is hardly the shitshow that critics make it out to be. Most of the criticism boils down to "This isn't the perfect trans story." No poo poo, Tangerine is the first and perhaps only film to do a trans story without pissing somebody off. Baby steps.

e: How does it even portray transgenderism as a kink? You're just plucking buzzwords out of the air ("kink", "fetish") and plastering them on the film.

Vegetable fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Jan 15, 2016

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



I hate Eddy Redmayne. I just hate him.

That is all.

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

The lack of nominations for Beasts of No Nation is very distressing.

Seriously, as much as I love Cranston the kid from Beasts of No Nation should have gotten in over him.

EDIT: No Going Clear for best documentary?

Raxivace fucked around with this message at 08:44 on Jan 15, 2016

marioinblack
Sep 21, 2007

Number 1 Bullshit
Rooney Mara getting tabbed as a Supporting Actress is pretty silly. The worst thing about her and Vikander being there is it guts the Best Actress category, and it really stacks the supporting category. I'm worried they'll give it to one of the those two because of their screentime. McAdams, Winslet, and Leigh were all great, but since they threw lead actresses in the category, better luck next year I guess. Vikander has a great performance that qualifies too, come on Oscars.

I'm pretty disappointed Ex Machina missed on Best Picture especially with something as plain as Bridge of Spies being there. Ex Machina, Sicario, Creed, and Inside Out had something more going on and there's two more spots available. I'm glad Spielberg didn't steal a director slot though, I'm ok with that category (although I haven't seen Room yet). I'll also echo the Michael B. Jordan sentiment especially in a weak year for the category.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:

I hate Eddy Redmayne. I just hate him.

That is all.

I never want to see him in a movie again after Jupiter Ascending. I would also never like to see a movie like Jupiter Ascending again either.

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

Is there some kind of problem people have with Redmayne now? I only know him from Theory of Everything, and while that is by no means a great movie I think he's fine in it.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


Raxivace posted:

Is there some kind of problem people have with Redmayne now? I only know him from Theory of Everything, and while that is by no means a great movie I think he's fine in it.

Seems to constantly be in movies that are

A) Oscar bait
B) Bad
C) All of the above

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




MorgaineDax posted:

I would have liked to see Jupiter Ascending in Best Costume, probably instead of meh period drama The Danish Girl. JA wasn't a great movie, but there were some fantastic outfits there.

JA had great costuming.

Why the hell aren't Carol and Sicario nominated? So weird.

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RaspberrySea
Nov 29, 2004

cat doter posted:

I didn't even hear about room and spotlight until a few days ago, are they any good? I watched all the best picture noms last year and was kind of annoyed by how lovely a lot of them were

I missed Spotlight, but Room was fantastic. The kid deserved a nomination just as much as Brie Larson, IMO.

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