FlightSim Megathread: Much of this is unfinished

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Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

Megadyptes posted:

50% of people using their mouse to fly

I fly with mouse when bored@work. It works just fine for not dogfighting (and even that works just fine after a couple days of practice).

# ? Jan 18, 2016 19:34

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# ? Apr 27, 2024 16:35

e.pilot: Nov 20, 2011; sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

My flights usually end in wrecks because I get bored and gently caress around after shooting a few approaches.

Touch and go to an aileron roll at 200agl before I get back in the soup? don't mind if I do.

# ? Jan 18, 2016 23:58

Hekk: Oct 12, 2012; 'smeper fi

e.pilot posted:

My flights usually end in wrecks because I get bored and gently caress around after shooting a few approaches.

Touch and go to an aileron roll at 200agl before I get back in the soup? don't mind if I do.

I like to fly the RC planes through the city with my mouse. I dodge cars and houses and stuff while I am bored and don't want to be bothered trying anything serious. I will also do the same thing where I start a glider in the air and try to make it to the airfield before it hits the ground.

# ? Jan 19, 2016 07:44

algebra testes: Mar 5, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

Goetta posted:

That is a lot of dudes using Macs

To be fair, wasn't X-Plane the equivalent of MS Flight Sim for Macs anyway?

I should probably change from FSX at some point. I have a couple of PMDG aircraft though (The MD-11 and the turbo prop thingy), can I get them to work on P3D?

# ? Jan 19, 2016 08:12

u fink u hard Percy: Sep 14, 2007

I think you're the second person to ask recently and now I'm confused: when did simulator compatibility become a thing?

# ? Jan 19, 2016 08:23

Jonny Nox: Apr 26, 2008

Daimo posted:

I think you're the second person to ask recently and now I'm confused: when did simulator compatibility become a thing?

P3D is the evolution of the FSX codebase that has been evolved by Locheed Martin because Microsoft doesn't want it anymore.

So P3D is FSX, except where it's not. PMDG has been kind of assholes about cross-compatibility, even though most plane makers only had to move where they put a few files.

# ? Jan 19, 2016 09:03

u fink u hard Percy: Sep 14, 2007

~~No I know about the evolution of simulator platforms, that wasn't the question Lordpants was asking.~~

I am stupid in the mornings.

u fink u hard Percy fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Jan 19, 2016

# ? Jan 19, 2016 09:14

Mitt Romney: Nov 9, 2005; dumb and bad

If I buy a PC-12 can I use it on FSE? Also does FSE work with Prepar3D?

# ? Jan 19, 2016 10:13

Hekk: Oct 12, 2012; 'smeper fi

Mitt Romney posted:

If I buy a PC-12 can I use it on FSE? Also does FSE work with Prepar3D?

Yes (Although you will need to rent it hourly or cough up 780k in FSE bux or so to purchase one) and Yes

# ? Jan 19, 2016 10:16

EvilJoven: Mar 18, 2005; NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?; Fun Shoe

So our private group forum on the FSE page is being moderated and I had a thread deleted for swearing and then told I had to edit because it contained a plan I'd thought up that violated their ToS after I reposted without the swearing so I'm thinking a PGS thread would be a better idea.

Both because I don't trust the FSE staff to be at all fair unless they're being fair to their grognard kin and also because half the people posting in this thread don't give a poo poo about FSE.

Soapy what do you think about that? Technically you run barter town.

# ? Jan 19, 2016 14:32

Sewer Adventure: Aug 25, 2004

Can someone invite brianc (me) to the group please!

# ? Jan 19, 2016 16:23

SoapyTarantula: Jun 3, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

EvilJoven posted:

So our private group forum on the FSE page is being moderated and I had a thread deleted for swearing and then told I had to edit because it contained a plan I'd thought up that violated their ToS after I reposted without the swearing so I'm thinking a PGS thread would be a better idea.

Both because I don't trust the FSE staff to be at all fair unless they're being fair to their grognard kin and also because half the people posting in this thread don't give a poo poo about FSE.

Soapy what do you think about that? Technically you run barter town.

Possibly, if we're all still loving around with this in a month then yeah of course. I just don't want us to make a thread and then have people lose interest.

Sewer Adventure posted:

Can someone invite brianc (me) to the group please!

Sent you an invite.

# ? Jan 19, 2016 19:02

EvilJoven: Mar 18, 2005; NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?; Fun Shoe

SoapyTarantula posted:

Possibly, if we're all still loving around with this in a month then yeah of course. I just don't want us to make a thread and then have people lose interest.

Sent you an invite.

A PGS thread isnt much effort. Off site forums on the other hand is a ton to put in at this point.

# ? Jan 19, 2016 19:33

tehsid: Dec 24, 2007; Nobility is sadly overrated.

What are the must haves as far as payware planes for fsx go? I'm looking for a small single or... maybe twin engine prop plane, and a passenger/cargo hauler. I'm hoping both would be fse frendly.

I know so little, I don't wanna buy anything that looks cool, but ends up being a buggy, or just lovely to fly.

# ? Jan 21, 2016 05:20

hogmartin: Mar 27, 2007

tehsid posted:

What are the must haves as far as payware planes for fsx go? I'm looking for a small single or... maybe twin engine prop plane, and a passenger/cargo hauler. I'm hoping both would be fse frendly.

I know so little, I don't wanna buy anything that looks cool, but ends up being a buggy, or just lovely to fly.

the Carenado stuff is not exactly cheap but it's f'n beautiful and I've never had a problem with it flight-wise. I only have the C340 but is a delicious airplane and one of my favorites.
http://www.carenado.com/CarSite/Portal/index.php?accion=product&correl=55

# ? Jan 21, 2016 05:44

The Ferret King: Nov 23, 2003; cluck cluck

tehsid posted:

What are the must haves as far as payware planes for fsx go? I'm looking for a small single or... maybe twin engine prop plane, and a passenger/cargo hauler. I'm hoping both would be fse frendly.

I know so little, I don't wanna buy anything that looks cool, but ends up being a buggy, or just lovely to fly.

RealAir makes a few airplanes that are excellent.

Single Engine:

Marchetti SF260
Lancair Legacy

Twin Engine:
BE-60 Duke and Turbine Duke

PMDG makes a twin T-prop, the JetStream JS4100 and it's very high quality.

# ? Jan 21, 2016 06:06

e.pilot: Nov 20, 2011; sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

The Ferret King posted:

RealAir makes a few airplanes that are excellent.

Single Engine:

Marchetti SF260
Lancair Legacy

Twin Engine:
BE-60 Duke and Turbine Duke

PMDG makes a twin T-prop, the JetStream JS4100 and it's very high quality.

That Lancair is a work of art, I wish there were such a great single engine GA plane for x-plane.

# ? Jan 21, 2016 06:52

algebra testes: Mar 5, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

The Ferret King posted:

PMDG makes a twin T-prop, the JetStream JS4100 and it's very high quality.

Jetstream is great! Just feather them props.

Also it's got a baby's first FMC so if you like pressing buttons it's a good start.

# ? Jan 21, 2016 06:59

The Ferret King: Nov 23, 2003; cluck cluck

LordPants posted:

Jetstream is great! Just ~~feather~~ unfeather them props.

Or else you'll never start 'em.

Then remember to bump them off the locks before takeoff. That's when the real fireworks start if you forget!

# ? Jan 21, 2016 07:15

hogmartin: Mar 27, 2007

The Ferret King posted:

PMDG makes a twin T-prop, the JetStream JS4100 and it's very high quality.

It is, but it's really twitchy if you don't know how to drive it. I started it up and tried to use the propellers in reverse instead of pushback and WELP NOW WE'RE ON FIRE. It also doesn't seem to descend for poo poo, so if you're a terrible pilot like me go ahead and start your descent from about two hundred fifty miles out.

hogmartin fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Jan 21, 2016

# ? Jan 21, 2016 07:17

tehsid: Dec 24, 2007; Nobility is sadly overrated.

hogmartin posted:

It is, but it's really twitchy if you don't know how to drive it. I started it up and tried to use the propellers in reverse instead of pushback and WELP NOW WE'RE ON FIRE. It also doesn't seem to descend for poo poo, so if you're a terrible pilot like me go ahead and start your descent from about two hundred fifty miles out.

So for me, it'd be about 500 miles out.

Thank you all for the suggestions, and keep them coming! I'm thinking Turbine Duke and the Lancair Legacy might be my first two. God I can see this getting expensive (more expensive)...

# ? Jan 21, 2016 08:13

sellouts: Apr 23, 2003

e.pilot posted:

That Lancair is a work of art, I wish there were such a great single engine GA plane for x-plane.

I like the Cessna Corvallis. Fast, fixed gear, single engine fun.

# ? Jan 21, 2016 10:46

Forums Terrorist: Dec 8, 2011

hogmartin posted:

It is, but it's really twitchy if you don't know how to drive it. I started it up and tried to use the propellers in reverse instead of pushback and WELP NOW WE'RE ON FIRE. It also doesn't seem to descend for poo poo, so if you're a terrible pilot like me go ahead and start your descent from about two hundred fifty miles out.

The FMC will tell you when to descend and how fast you gotta go to make it happen.

# ? Jan 21, 2016 11:04

The Ferret King: Nov 23, 2003; cluck cluck

Gotta remember to use your throttle to descend instead of pushing the nose over.

That's a good technique for most aircraft, really. Pitch is for airspeed. Power is for altitude. Let the arguments begin.

# ? Jan 21, 2016 12:34

Hekk: Oct 12, 2012; 'smeper fi

The Ferret King posted:

Gotta remember to use your throttle to descend instead of pushing the nose over.

That's a good technique for most aircraft, really. Pitch is for airspeed. Power is for altitude. Let the arguments begin.

I usually just descend until the overspeed alarm goes off and drop a couple of notches of flaps to slow down. I figure if I can get to the runway two minutes faster, that's two minutes I've saved so I can do other things like talk about flight sims online.

# ? Jan 21, 2016 13:24

tater_salad: Sep 15, 2007

Nah its cool I'll just do this 2hr flight for practice

didn't need to actually load the cargo.

# ? Jan 21, 2016 13:56

algebra testes: Mar 5, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

The Ferret King posted:

Gotta remember to use your throttle to descend instead of pushing the nose over.

That's a good technique for most aircraft, really. Pitch is for airspeed. Power is for altitude. Let the arguments begin.

It was a real "holy poo poo moment" when I worked that out. Or rather, the PMDG manual explained it to me.

# ? Jan 21, 2016 14:10

Hekk: Oct 12, 2012; 'smeper fi

tater_salad posted:

Nah its cool I'll just do this 2hr flight for practice didn't need to actually load the cargo.

And that's the real reason I am not playing X-Plane right now.

# ? Jan 21, 2016 14:10

EvilJoven: Mar 18, 2005; NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?; Fun Shoe

The Ferret King posted:

Gotta remember to use your throttle to descend instead of pushing the nose over.

That's a good technique for most aircraft, really. Pitch is for airspeed. Power is for altitude. Let the arguments begin.

I was teaching a few people how to play FSX and the way I put it is you use the throttle to add remove speed/altitude and you use the stick to trade one for the other.

Nostalgia4Ass posted:

And that's the real reason I am not playing X-Plane right now.

Why none of the stupid loving FSE clients have an alarm that goes off when you hit takeoff power without the flight started is beyond me. Those guys have been running this show for 10 years you'd think they'd have thought of it by now.

It was one of the first things I was going to try to code or have someone who isn't complete poo poo at coding here come up with but at this point I doubt I'll be 'contributing' much outside our little band of misfits.

# ? Jan 21, 2016 14:32

tehsid: Dec 24, 2007; Nobility is sadly overrated.

EvilJoven posted:

I was teaching a few people how to play FSX and the way I put it is you use the throttle to add remove speed/altitude and you use the stick to trade one for the other.

Why none of the stupid loving FSE clients have an alarm that goes off when you hit takeoff power without the flight started is beyond me. Those guys have been running this show for 10 years you'd think they'd have thought of it by now.

It was one of the first things I was going to try to code or have someone who isn't complete poo poo at coding here come up with but at this point I doubt I'll be 'contributing' much outside our little band of misfits.

I would love you forever if you make this.

# ? Jan 21, 2016 14:42

EvilJoven: Mar 18, 2005; NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?; Fun Shoe

I'll see what I can do but I am completely garbage at coding and it would probably take someone that isn't complete garbage 1/10th the time.

EDIT: I'd also need the client source. IDK where to get that.

EvilJoven fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Jan 21, 2016

# ? Jan 21, 2016 14:43

e.pilot: Nov 20, 2011; sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

The Ferret King posted:

Gotta remember to use your throttle to descend instead of pushing the nose over.

That's a good technique for most aircraft, really. Pitch is for airspeed. Power is for altitude. Let the arguments begin.

No arguments from me, this is proper technique.

e:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1Pk6Sg9jhWTVnVhV3ZoNGpTRm8

e.pilot fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Jan 21, 2016

# ? Jan 21, 2016 15:01

Forums Terrorist: Dec 8, 2011

The Ferret King posted:

Gotta remember to use your throttle to descend instead of pushing the nose over.

That's a good technique for most aircraft, really. Pitch is for airspeed. Power is for altitude. Let the arguments begin.

Unless, of course, you are in an Airbus; in that case, just point the nose at where you want to go and the aircraft figures that poo poo out for you.

# ? Jan 21, 2016 15:03

EvilJoven: Mar 18, 2005; NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?; Fun Shoe

Until a pitot ices and you kill hundreds of people.

# ? Jan 21, 2016 15:06

algebra testes: Mar 5, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

Or an MD-11 AKA "oh poo poo I landed I should plug my joystick back in"

# ? Jan 21, 2016 15:07

Forums Terrorist: Dec 8, 2011

EvilJoven posted:

Until a pitot ices and you kill hundreds of people.

Hey now, that time I left the pitot cap attached on my Cherokee I greased that landing. :colbert:

# ? Jan 21, 2016 15:14

GOOD TIMES ON METH: Mar 17, 2006; Fun Shoe

EvilJoven posted:

I was teaching a few people how to play FSX and the way I put it is you use the throttle to add remove speed/altitude and you use the stick to trade one for the other.

Why none of the stupid loving FSE clients have an alarm that goes off when you hit takeoff power without the flight started is beyond me. Those guys have been running this show for 10 years you'd think they'd have thought of it by now.

It was one of the first things I was going to try to code or have someone who isn't complete poo poo at coding here come up with but at this point I doubt I'll be 'contributing' much outside our little band of misfits.

The XP 10 FSE script does this if you leave the ground without starting the job

code:

function eventTakeOffWithoutFseFlightStarted()
	XPLMSpeakString("FSE flight not started!")
	--command_once("sim/operation/pause_toggle")
end

# ? Jan 21, 2016 17:09

INTJ Mastermind: Dec 30, 2004; It's a radial!

Really? Definitely took off without passengers many times and never got that alert.

What I do instead is I leave the FSE window open and covering my attitude indicator and HSI so that way there's no way you can forget it.

# ? Jan 21, 2016 17:15

GOOD TIMES ON METH: Mar 17, 2006; Fun Shoe

It only does it in the Lua script plugin, not in the way clunkier standalone client

# ? Jan 21, 2016 17:17

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# ? Apr 27, 2024 16:35

INTJ Mastermind: Dec 30, 2004; It's a radial!

Goetta posted:

It only does it in the Lua script plugin, not in the way clunkier standalone client

Wait there's a LUA plugin? I'm still using the Python one.

# ? Jan 21, 2016 17:25

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