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Yeah, bricklink has a pretty good price history interface. Which isn't that big a deal, but they also mark how many sales actually completed and when you take that into account it's obvious making money off Lego is a massive chore. The community of buyers is actually painfully small. I know I bring this set up a lot but I think it's a pretty good example: http://alpha.bricklink.com/pages/clone/catalogitem.page?S=10187-1&name=Volkswagen%20Beetle%20(VW%20Beetle)&category=%5BSculptures%5D#T=P I own one of these, and the original price was $120 (which feels low to me, but that's what google turned up). Even without the box the sale price is four times that, but there's only five sales per year at that price. Good loving luck liquidating a closet full of them.
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Apollodorus posted:So from watching last night's The Daily Show with Trevor Noah, I have learned that LEGO is a better investment than gold, with a 12% increase in value annually. But that's only for "pristine condition" sets, it seems: Apollodorus posted:Oh I would never do that. It sounds like a total forfeiture of the experience to me. 
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Jan 21, 2016 19:22
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One funny side effect of the massive price inflation some resellers are trying to push, I'm now seeing every once in a while ads being posted on Kijiji calling out resellers and providing alternate links to more affordable sources.
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I just learned the new Lego Marvel's Avengers has... a season pass  The Lego games were once a bastion of fun playtime for kids and man children alike. First they introduced voices, then they put in costume DLCs and now a Season pass? God dammit. The trailer emphasizes New York city and open world so much, you'd think they forgot that Lego Marvel Super Heroes basically had all that already. Plus insanely stupid flight controls for Iron man and other flying minifigs that made flight challenges super annoying. I hope they fixed those.
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Lego is sort of the beanie babies of 201x I bet their collectability will wane over time .
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What's really going to happen is the stuff that's actually kinda rare will retain some of its value but most of it will sit collecting dust as people refuse to admit that their investment isn't going to pay out. Same as with comic books, other toys, coins and anything else 'collectable'.
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Jan 21, 2016 19:54
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Nothing is sadder than that one guy at the flea market trying to sell his stack of mint in package Spawn comics and action figures he wasted thousands of dollars on in the first half of the 90s.
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Jan 21, 2016 19:58
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Some day that Ninja Turtle comic I have stuffed in a box somewhere is going to pay for my retirement, I just know it!
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Jan 21, 2016 20:02
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My mint condition #1 Simpsons Comics Germany signed by Bill Morrison says hello....
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LOL out of curiosity I googled that. Third link was to ebay and the third auction there has this gem of a title with a $100 opening big: Simpsons Comics INVESTMENT Lot of 70 comics Radioactive Man Bartman 1 ++ EDIT  INVESTMENT
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NESguerilla posted:Lego is sort of the beanie babies of 201x You can actually do something with legos, beanie babies are loving useless
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EvilJoven posted:LOL out of curiosity I googled that. Third link was to ebay and the third auction there has this gem of a title with a $100 opening big: Simpsons Comics INVESTMENT Lot of 70 comics Radioactive Man Bartman 1 ++ Luckily all I paid for it was 12 € whenever (early 2ks I guess)
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xzzy posted:Yeah, bricklink has a pretty good price history interface. Which isn't that big a deal, but they also mark how many sales actually completed and when you take that into account it's obvious making money off Lego is a massive chore. The community of buyers is actually painfully small. I count at least 20+ sold on ebay in the past 2 months.
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Speaking of investments, I heard someone say the newly retired Death Star is worth £500-ish sealed? Are they talking bollocks?
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xzzy posted:Some day that Ninja Turtle comic I have stuffed in a box somewhere is going to pay for my retirement, I just know it! Well I mean, it depends on which one it is!
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Light Gun Man posted:Well I mean, it depends on which one it is! Not one of the rare ones, I guarantee that. I haven't looked at it in years, but if I remember right there's a crease or a tear on the cover too. Which means it's basically kindling.
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Jan 21, 2016 22:48
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The small creator jet is awesome, so swooshable and it has tomcat style folding wings.
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I just got the big blue Creator jet, super psyched to put it together over the weekend. But I still really miss my old LEGOs. 
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Waldorf Sixpence posted:Speaking of investments, I heard someone say the newly retired Death Star is worth £500-ish sealed? Are they talking bollocks? The super huge sets tend to go up in price because not many were made or sold, and they're often great centerpieces for a display if someone is buying to build it. It being out of production now is probably causing a temporary spike before it starts rising steadily. The ucs b-wing is 200-300 after a couple years of being OOP, the ucs red 5 has like doubled in price already and it's only been OOP for what, half a year? And the death star is like, THE star wars thing, outside of the millenium falcon, star destroyer, tie fighter, and x wing, so it will of course go up. Same reason the ucs death star is like 800-1200 now.
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Captain Invictus posted:The super huge sets tend to go up in price because not many were made or sold, and they're often great centerpieces for a display if someone is buying to build it. It being out of production now is probably causing a temporary spike before it starts rising steadily. Yeah, was just shocked to see it go up so quick! Will it rapidly drop in price if a NEW Death Star comes out? Or will there still be above-RRP demand for old sets? Basically I'm asking do I shift it now and make a couple hundred quid off it, or do I keep it and hope it goes up more?
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That UCS B-Wing is also a special case since Lego sold a bunch at half off which depressed the price for a long time. And it was never a very beloved set.
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Waldorf Sixpence posted:Yeah, was just shocked to see it go up so quick! Will it rapidly drop in price if a NEW Death Star comes out? Or will there still be above-RRP demand for old sets? Basically I'm asking do I shift it now and make a couple hundred quid off it, or do I keep it and hope it goes up more? Stuff like the UCS Red Five and such are why I tell people to grab Combiner Wars Transformers Devastator if they find him on sale/clearance. Devastator is among the most well-known transformers ever, alongside Optimus Prime, Megatron, and Soundwave, and the toy they made for him recently is so drat good, and so drat HUGE, that he's going to absolutely appreciate in value once he's out of production. Same thing happened with Metroplex, the biggest Transformer ever made, last year. He's over twice what he retailed for now. Similar situation with Legos, if there's a line of recognizable things, if you're going to invest in some, go for the most iconic set, or failing that, the biggest. UCS Tumbler is no doubt going to go up quite a bit, especially since it is also the only set that includes The Dark Knight Joker minifig. Investing in Lego isn't necessarily difficult, but it does take a good, rational eye for what will appreciate in value. Take the Exo-Suit, for example. It is the only set, still, that contains green-colored Classic Space minfigs. Now that it's OOP as well, that will cause it to go up in value alone.
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Captain Invictus posted:Not really I'm not actually comparing them to beanie babies, I just mean they are hot right now and the market is all over the place and it's bound to cool down sooner than later. I'm sure they will remain popular and certain sets will be worth a ton, but the reseller price gouging will go away to some degree. The thing I don't get is that most sets are readily available for at least a year or two. Who are these people too lazy to buy the Red Five for 2 years, that also want it so bad they will play 2x the price for it a month after it goes out of stock/production?
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There are a lot of people who do not follow Legos and find out about the sets long after they're out of production. A lot of said people probably have quite a lot of money to burn and want to relive their childhood/favorite franchise. And I more meant just that because Legos have an actual use, that that gives them an extra reason to retain value, as opposed to beanie babies, which is literally nothing but speculation that caused their value, and so when people realized that, it collapsed completely overnight.
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All the LotR stuff came out during my dark age and now I want to get a lot it, which is unfortunate because it's often 20-30% more expensive. Also, it's a huge bummer there isn't more of it. No Witch King set? Really? And yeah, LEGO aren't like collectible plates or anything (of which my grandparents have many). When you buy the LEGO Ferrari you aren't buying a model Ferrari, you're buying a bunch of bricks that can be anything and conveniently come with an instruction manual on how to build a Ferrari. Or something.
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Captain Invictus posted:And I more meant just that because Legos have an actual use, that that gives them an extra reason to retain value, as opposed to beanie babies, which is literally nothing but speculation that caused their value, and so when people realized that, it collapsed completely overnight. Yeah I don't mean they will become literally worthless like BB. they have always had a good resale value even when I was a kid. There's just a lot of stuff that is, or is at least perceived as more valuable than it should be at the moment.
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My wife bought a bunch in a garage sale a few years ago for some reason and they have been sitting in my garage. I pulled them out, and each one has hand written on the cardboard box the price they paid. "$16 in 1982". Going for 99 cents plus shipping now. I pretty much always pick up any lego for 50% off that I see. I kick myself over some of the ones I passed on, I'm looking at you $35 lego 7785 Arkham Asylum that I didn't get more than one.
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The thing about LEGO versus plates is that there's only one company that makes LEGO and I don't know how many that make collectible plates? I mean don't get me wrong my grandparents have cool Wizard of Oz and Gone with the Wind plates all over their house, and it's a really neat grandparent-thing. Maybe if I ever have grandkids they'll be on some kind of inter-dimensional reality portal telling other cool kids about how their stupid idiot grandpa had a giant collection of plastic brick models.
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Plates don't do anything. Lego are a toy, can be used to build things, and also used as a display piece you put on a shelf and never touch.
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The sucky part about of Lego is when Lego changes the color, I hate finding an old light grey brick and putting it next to the newer bluish grey.. it makes it look filthy. Which does have some uses for certain thematic effects, but I'm usually not doing that sort of build.
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Zodack posted:All the LotR stuff came out during my dark age and now I want to get a lot it, which is unfortunate because it's often 20-30% more expensive. Also, it's a huge bummer there isn't more of it. No Witch King set? Really? There is a Witch King set from the hobbit but it probably isn't what you are hoping for, but it's cheap and has the only Galadriel so far as I know.
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Dogen posted:There is a Witch King set from the hobbit but it probably isn't what you are hoping for, but it's cheap and has the only Galadriel so far as I know. Yeah, I've actually got both Galadriel and Elrond from that set on display. I really wanted an actual Witch King and Eowyn. Would have been a nice excuse to make a second Theoden, too, but I can understand why they kept him rare. Really, Eowyn and a Witch King with a good helmet mold would have been great. I mean, they did the Mouth of Sauron and he's not even in the regular cut of the movie.
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Light Gun Man posted:Plates don't do anything. Lego are a toy, can be used to build things, and also used as a display piece you put on a shelf and never touch. actually even notes on the plates saying "do not use these as plates".
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Zodack posted:Yeah, I've actually got both Galadriel and Elrond from that set on display. I really wanted an actual Witch King and Eowyn. Would have been a nice excuse to make a second Theoden, too, but I can understand why they kept him rare. I have a bunch of LotR sets that I'm probably never going to open, if you've got any Star Wars sets for trade PM me.
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Zodack posted:All the LotR stuff came out during my dark age and now I want to get a lot it, which is unfortunate because it's often 20-30% more expensive. Also, it's a huge bummer there isn't more of it. No Witch King set? Really? I feel you man. I missed most of the Indiana Jones and Harry Potter stuff.
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Light Gun Man posted:Plates don't do anything. Lego are a toy, can be used to build things, and also used as a display piece you put on a shelf and never touch. By that logic, a Lego Mona Lisa is more valuable than the real Mona Lisa, and I completely agree.  Zodack posted:All the LotR stuff came out during my dark age and now I want to get a lot it, which is unfortunate because it's often 20-30% more expensive. Also, it's a huge bummer there isn't more of it. No Witch King set? Really? I have all the minifigs from the 79003 Hobit Hole set and I would be wiling to sell them cheap. I simply have no attachment to LotR or The Hobbit, I've never read the books or watched any of the movies.
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Well if the market is that nuts that explains why I'm having trouble trying to price things sensibly that I want to get rid of. Though I suspect no one actually wants the Research Institute set or yet more random batman minifigs.
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Does anyone have some tips for building a good, stable, easily removable roof? I'm working on a cabin right now and my roof falls apart just by looking at it. I'm trying layers of the 3x4 slopes, like the ones that come in the mountain hut and lakeside cabin, but the second layer won't come together and stay together. God forbid I try to attach the drat thing to the walls.
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Look up the instructions for 5766 and see how they did their roof. A super common technique Lego does these days is to put a layer of plates to smooth it out, leaving only one or two studs for the roof to stick to. This makes it super easy to install and remove. They have some cross bracing in there too to firm it up.
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