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BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

Krispy Kareem posted:

Oh great. A new horror trend is going to be your home alone and you hear an unfamiliar text notification.

doodle-oo, doodle-oo

"Oh hey, I got a text mess... wait a minute, I don't have an iPhone..."

*zombie Steve Jobs shambles out from a closet behind the victim*

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Horse Clocks
Dec 14, 2004


Zonekeeper posted:

Once we get to the point that phones can run a full desktop OS without massive tradeoffs, then phones replacing low-end computers/laptops by docking into a laptop shell or desktop dock through USB-C seems inevitable.

The fact that drat near every kind of input under the sun can interface through USB 3.1/C (up to and including power and video) means that traditional laptop docks will probably get replaced by generics with a USB-C input in the coming years, and from there it's not a stretch for phones to be supported as well.

True to form, laptop manufacturers are already starting to gently caress this up. HP's Z dock has a proprietary-ish USB-C connector that has its own power socket ( http://www.www8-hp.com/us/en/images/zbookdock_charge_tcm_245_2118757.jpg ).

Gynocentric Regime
Jun 9, 2010

by Cyrano4747

flosofl posted:

What I'm hoping becomes obsolete is multiple devices. I want a single device that take advantage of multiple form-factors. A core device that can be carried as a phone and docks to shells that adds additional display horsepower and peripheral interfaces for a tablet or a laptop. Motorola tried it (unsuccessfully) with the Atrix. I know it's a probably multiple generations off and will require some revolutionary breakthroughs in processor design, but damnit that's what I want.

You're talking about Jon Siracusa's naked robotic core concept, which was cool until

Platystemon posted:

Docking is the past. The future is the cloud. :yaycloud:

So yeah get used to carrying around different size glass squares and rects.

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


flosofl posted:

What I'm hoping becomes obsolete is multiple devices. I want a single device that take advantage of multiple form-factors. A core device that can be carried as a phone and docks to shells that adds additional display horsepower and peripheral interfaces for a tablet or a laptop. Motorola tried it (unsuccessfully) with the Atrix. I know it's a probably multiple generations off and will require some revolutionary breakthroughs in processor design, but damnit that's what I want.

What makes you think you'll be able to develop software on this device, despite existing market trends? If you don't care if you can, then where do you think new software and new/better uses for your universal computing device will come from (And I don't mean "the app store")?

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Platystemon posted:

Docking is the past. The future is my butt. :yaybutt:
:allears:

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Negrostrike posted:

As much as I like Dilbert strips, there's no denying Scott Adams is totally out of touch with things.

It's like trying to get my 68-year-old CEO to understand the basics of his email.

"What do you mean? Why can't it just understand what I want?"

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



Cloud to butt is the best thing.

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005

Humphreys posted:

Cloud to butt is the best thing.

SA was way ahead of the times in the effort to produce a butt to butt video protocol

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Ultimate Mango posted:

SA was way ahead of the times in the effort to produce a butt to butt video protocol

Is there a way to enable the autocorrect that non-members see when browsing threads? Rear End in a Top hat is a personal favourite.

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

Humphreys posted:

Is there a way to enable the autocorrect that non-members see when browsing threads? Rear End in a Top hat is a personal favourite.

If you had a list of every substitution you could plug it into something like FoxReplace. (If you do have that list I'd like to see it, by the way, don't think I saw everything before I regged.)

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Ozz81 posted:

doodle-oo, doodle-oo

"Oh hey, I got a text mess... wait a minute, I don't have an iPhone..."

*zombie Steve Jobs shambles out from a closet behind the victim*

On the plus side Apple's back on track and the iPhone 8 looks awesome. On the downside Genius Bars are now brain buffets.

Truck Stop Daddy
Apr 17, 2013

A janitor cleans the bathroom

Muldoon
I'm currently in a bidding war for a LD player in tyool 2016. I feel this is relevant to this thread.

I had almost forgotten how difficult it is to figure out which of the players are any good, if we ignore the top 5 mostly high-end players (that I've never seen for sale here). It's an arcane art...

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

flosofl posted:

Well, I was thinking of a device that has the processing and memory and display tech built in. It's also your dedicated communications node. Everything else from applications to data lives in THE CLOUD:smithcloud: You just slot it into different peripherals depending on your current use case.

Why the hell would you have processing and memory local if you're storing the rest in the cloud? You're basically describing a VM set up, but with all the annoyances of regular per-user hardware upgrades.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Truck Stop Daddy posted:

I'm currently in a bidding war for a LD player in tyool 2016. I feel this is relevant to this thread.

I had almost forgotten how difficult it is to figure out which of the players are any good, if we ignore the top 5 mostly high-end players (that I've never seen for sale here). It's an arcane art...

I got one of the good Panasonic players for free (along with about 30 movies) by posting an ad on craigslist: "Laserdisc player wanted"

Truck Stop Daddy
Apr 17, 2013

A janitor cleans the bathroom

Muldoon
Gave up. It tripled in price... Got a Panasonic LX 1000u already, but it's fairly ancient and has began to have significant crosstalk issues :/ This DVL-919 would've been a sweet upgrade. Ah well :(

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

Kaizoku posted:

Why the hell would you have processing and memory local if you're storing the rest in the cloud? You're basically describing a VM set up, but with all the annoyances of regular per-user hardware upgrades.

Yes, he's describing an iPad connected to Dropbox with a Bluetooth keyboard

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005

Humphreys posted:

Is there a way to enable the autocorrect that non-members see when browsing threads? Rear End in a Top hat is a personal favourite.

There is autocorrect for non-SA members?

:aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa:

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

Ultimate Mango posted:

There is autocorrect for non-SA members?

:aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa:

Just word replacement. It's where "gently caress" comes from. It's "gently caress" when you're logged in. (Did I really need to spoiler that?)

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

Ultimate Mango posted:

There is autocorrect for non-SA members?

:aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa::aaaaa:

Basically, the amount of profanity that people posted here was causing ad networks to drop SA and forcing Lowtax and radium (still admin at the time) to switch to shadier ad providers. As a workaround to this, word filters were set up for anybody who wasn't logged in to replace phrases like "gently caress" with "gently caress" if you weren't logged in.

People who used to lurk without an account before buying one were often unaware of the filters and thought that everyone on SA genuinely talked like that and would sincerely say things like 'gently caress you,' leading to people making fun of them for that mistake.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Instant Sunrise posted:

Basically, the amount of profanity that people posted here was causing ad networks to drop SA and forcing Lowtax and radium (still admin at the time) to switch to shadier ad providers. As a workaround to this, word filters were set up for anybody who wasn't logged in to replace phrases like "gently caress" with "gently caress" if you weren't logged in.

People who used to lurk without an account before buying one were often unaware of the filters and thought that everyone on SA genuinely talked like that and would sincerely say things like 'gently caress you,' leading to people making fun of them for that mistake.

The Dangan Ronpa LP caused a recurrence of that.

Also people cosplaying as the paywall.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

AlphaKretin posted:

If you had a list of every substitution you could plug it into something like FoxReplace. (If you do have that list I'd like to see it, by the way, don't think I saw everything before I regged.)

There's a Greasemonkey script which does the opposite, so if you're not logged in you get to see the real profanity. You can look at the source code to see the table of replacements it makes: http://userscripts-mirror.org/scripts/review/12919

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Tunicate posted:

Also people cosplaying as the paywall.

I think this result proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the technology was, indeed, not a failure.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Instant Sunrise posted:

People who used to lurk without an account before buying one were often unaware of the filters and thought that everyone on SA genuinely talked like that and would sincerely say things like 'gently caress you,' leading to people making fun of them for that mistake.
I caught on to it pretty quickly, but even so I lurked for so long that to this day, my brain still reads "gently caress" as "gently caress" in any context.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

Buttcoin purse posted:

There's a Greasemonkey script which does the opposite, so if you're not logged in you get to see the real profanity. You can look at the source code to see the table of replacements it makes: http://userscripts-mirror.org/scripts/review/12919

An enjoyable human being of sticks? What?

Ein cooler Typ
Nov 26, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
I bought a laserdisc player at the thrift store for $15 but it doesn't have the remote


should I spend $80 to buy the remote from this guy on amazon

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-CU-CLD069-CUCLD069-CLD-D501-CLDD501/dp/B00BTKU6T0

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


Couldn't you just get a Harmony programmable remote, and use that instead for the same price?

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON
E: n/m

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
I had someone not too long ago go on how laserdisks are better quality than blurays or Hd streaming. Somehow I think that's not true. The main draw of laserdisk collection is to get rare stuff like the unaltered versions of Star Wars in decent quality, or special features on films that were only available on the LDs.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

twistedmentat posted:

I had someone not too long ago go on how laserdisks are better quality than blurays or Hd streaming. Somehow I think that's not true. The main draw of laserdisk collection is to get rare stuff like the unaltered versions of Star Wars in decent quality, or special features on films that were only available on the LDs.

they look like poo poo even when compared to dvds

mystes
May 31, 2006

twistedmentat posted:

I had someone not too long ago go on how laserdisks are better quality than blurays or Hd streaming. Somehow I think that's not true. The main draw of laserdisk collection is to get rare stuff like the unaltered versions of Star Wars in decent quality, or special features on films that were only available on the LDs.
Great, the stupid "records have higher quality than CD's" myth has now completely spiraled out of control. Next time I get drunk with my coworkers I'm going to try to convince them that wax cylinders are the only good recording medium.

mystes has a new favorite as of 04:56 on Jan 28, 2016

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

mystes posted:

Great, the stupid "records have higher quality than CD's" myth has now completely spiraled out of control. Next time I get drunk with my coworkers I'm going to try to convince them that wax cylinders are the only good recording medium.

No man, you're supposed to hear the cracks and pops and the sound needs to be muffled and wear out after 3 plays. That's how you know the musics real!

BTW, I always see "beta tapes failed because you couldn't put a 2 hour movie on one" all the time, and gently caress that. I grew up with a beta player and i had a huge collection of movies I recorded off TV.

Pingiivi
Mar 26, 2010

Straight into the iris!
Laserdisks sound scifi as hell but they are sub-SD analog video.

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

twistedmentat posted:

I had someone not too long ago go on how laserdisks are better quality than blurays or Hd streaming. Somehow I think that's not true. The main draw of laserdisk collection is to get rare stuff like the unaltered versions of Star Wars in decent quality, or special features on films that were only available on the LDs.

In the late 90's there was a belief that Laserdisc looked better than DVD.

And at the time it wasn't entirely wrong. Because the mastering chain for laserdisc was fairly mature by then, and the people making laserdiscs knew what they were doing, they could pop out really nice quality releases. DVD on the other hand was in its infancy and the mastering and encoding process wasn't quite there. At the time, a lot of DVDs were badly encoded and had fairly low bitrates, which meant that a lot of early DVD releases looked like rear end.

By 1999 or so when the matrix was released on DVD, the process for mastering and encoding a DVD was pretty ingrained and by then DVD could easily outpace laserdisc.

But to say that it looks better than blu-ray or high def streaming is just straight up dumb.

Jmcrofts
Jan 7, 2008

just chillin' in the club
Lipstick Apathy
I dunno, audiophiles have taught me that analog is universally better than digital.

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
I know in the early days of DVDs there were some specific disks that people said looked horrible, even for pretty well-known movies.

Also from the early days of the DVD era, movies people had to buy as show-off movies. Movies they could pop into their players and just show off how great DVD was compared to VHS*. Same token, whole threads devoted to movie/player incompatibility issues that seemed to mostly vanish until Blu-Ray and we started getting another set of new movies not working and requiring updates to function.

*Edit: I seem to think most of these were New Line releases. Lost in Space, Spawn, Austin Powers, Blade, etc. It seemed like New Line really embraced the format.

JediTalentAgent has a new favorite as of 08:17 on Jan 28, 2016

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Jmcrofts posted:

I dunno, audiophiles have taught me that analog is universally better than digital.

Imagine how much their inner feelings were twisted when Sony brought this bullshit out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO-vbzLPwSc

HairyManling
Jul 20, 2011

No flipping.
Fun Shoe

JediTalentAgent posted:

..we started getting another set of new movies not working and requiring updates to function.
Legitimate question here, not being smarmy. Has this really been 'a thing'? Are these updates to the firmware of the player before a Bluray can be played? I admit to having very little experience with Bluray.

I adopted DVD pretty early and built a decent collection of disks. And then bought a small handful of Blurays when I bought a PS3 in '09, but by about a year later I had no data caps and Amazon/Netflix became viable and I pretty much never looked back. Basically what I'm asking is, was there really a time when it was like, "gently caress, I can't watch this Bluray I just bought without downloading some huge file to my Bluray player?" Was I just spoiled because these updates were already part of whatever system updates to my PS3?

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

JediTalentAgent posted:

I know in the early days of DVDs there were some specific disks that people said looked horrible, even for pretty well-known movies.

Also from the early days of the DVD era, movies people had to buy as show-off movies. Movies they could pop into their players and just show off how great DVD was compared to VHS*. Same token, whole threads devoted to movie/player incompatibility issues that seemed to mostly vanish until Blu-Ray and we started getting another set of new movies not working and requiring updates to function.

*Edit: I seem to think most of these were New Line releases. Lost in Space, Spawn, Austin Powers, Blade, etc. It seemed like New Line really embraced the format.

Yea. I remember discussing it with people and there was talk that DVDs were mastered from VHS copies and they looked as good as a VHS tape. I know my main draw of DVDs were the special features. I still have the first DVD i ever bought, Gladiator. Has commentary, and then the second disk had about 6 hours of documentaries on Rome and stuff. It was fantastic.

The latest I remember VHS being a thing still was around the Return of the King being released. A handful of people came into the store i was working at looking for it on VHS, because they had bought the other 2 on VHS. They did not produce it on tape, but these people were mad. They refused to switch to DVD because they had heard it was a bad format and it looked like crap and touched their dog in its swimsuit area. It was weird.

I know people still collect VHS tapes, because there are a lot of movies that never got DVD releases and will never show up on netflix, but they're mostly low budget horror and sci-fi films. Though I know Pre THX remastered versions of Star Wars can be worth a lot, which upset me because i loving sold them for $25 bux when the first dvds came out.

Pingiivi
Mar 26, 2010

Straight into the iris!

twistedmentat posted:

I still have the first DVD i ever bought, Gladiator. Has commentary, and then the second disk had about 6 hours of documentaries on Rome and stuff. It was fantastic.

I remember that there was a VHS version of Gladiator that had some "EXCLUSIVE EXTRAS NOT ON THE DVD VERSION" sticker on it. It had some extras after the end of the movie.

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Pingiivi
Mar 26, 2010

Straight into the iris!

HairyManling posted:

Legitimate question here, not being smarmy. Has this really been 'a thing'? Are these updates to the firmware of the player before a Bluray can be played? I admit to having very little experience with Bluray.

There updates are small DRM security updates. PowerDVD has been a bit lovely with staying up to date with these but I haven't had any problems with PS3/PS4.

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