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Spikeguy posted:God, I can't read these posts. There are too many manly tears of joy. You know how Undertale do. Now if you excuse me, I have to listen to Bonetrousle. I'm legit curious if any wrestlers are Undertale fans now
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LORD OF BUTT posted:I'm legit curious if any wrestlers are Undertale fans now https://twitter.com/KingRicochet/status/693123296481529856
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Jan 29, 2016 23:51
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Dario the Wop posted:According to Cornette, that's one of the problems with wrestlers these days. They play video games instead of banging groupies, like the good ole days. Speaking of which: Didn't Cornette say something about women's wrestling not being profitable because there were fewer women who came there solely to gently caress the dude wrestlers after the show?
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Dario the Wop posted:According to Cornette, that's one of the problems with wrestlers these days. They play video games instead of banging groupies, like the good ole days. Speaking of which: It's 2016. What person on this planet doesn't know that pro wrestling is scripted? Cornette is insane if he thinks you can turn back time and make people forget that.
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It sounds like Cornette would like NJPW or something but it's not the Southern US so probably not?
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BigRed0427 posted:It's 2016. What person on this planet doesn't know that pro wrestling is scripted? Cornette is insane if he thinks you can turn back time and make people forget that. As recently as one year ago, people in this forum were saying that Brock Lesnar was totally shooting on Roman Reigns.
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Mercury Crusader posted:It sounds like Cornette would like NJPW or something but it's not the Southern US so probably not? He watched last years wrestle kingdom and crapped on a lot of it. He liked the main and Ibushi/Nakamura though. Of course the show started with the Bucks so...
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i think cornette might just be a hateful, bitter old man
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Ostentatious posted:i think cornette might just be a hateful, bitter old man I'm pretty sure that is all it boils down to.
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I really hope someone shows Cornette the ratings for Lucha Underground, his reaction is going to be really good. Edit: Eh I'll just do that myself and see if he does anything funny.
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MassRafTer posted:I really hope someone shows Cornette the ratings for Lucha Underground, his reaction is going to be really good. Then he will just go on even longer profanity filled rants and cry while remembering the glory days of wrasslin'
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CapitalistPig posted:Then he will just go on even longer profanity filled rants and cry while remembering the glory days of wrasslin' I know it's gonna be great when he sees how right he is.
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Jan 30, 2016 04:07
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I don't understand why any human would care about or even want to hear anything from the man who thought Mike Mondo could be the savior of ROH.
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KoldPT posted:WKTD is Team BAD What about The New Day?
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Is it possible Cornette doesn't know wrestling is scripted? I feel like that would explain a lot of his behavior.
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revtoiletduck posted:Is it possible Cornette doesn't know wrestling is scripted? I feel like that would explain a lot of his behavior. He ran Smoky Mountain Wrestling, unless SMW was 100% shoot top to bottom I think he knows. He's just too attached to kayfabe.
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MassRafTer posted:I know it's gonna be great when he sees how right he is. Is there some reason you want Lucha Underground to fail? I recall this not being the first post I've seen of you being borderline gleeful about the show having poor ratings, not getting its hands on better distribution channels to improve them, and not currently being a profitable endeavor. I actually like Jim Cornette and thing he's pretty brilliant in terms of the wrestling business, but his view that wrestling can only be successful when it's 1) fooling people into thinking its real and 2) presented on television as a sport and nothing else is just... not correct. If it was wouldn't Ring of Honor be at a much higher level of success than it is? I suppose you can argue that when WWF, and thus wrestling at a whole, was most successful and at its greatest level of mainstream acceptance during the Hogan era, it was closest to that presentation. But even without talking about the Attitude Era's shift away from that and breaking down into a debate about the objective business success of Hogan vs Attitude, I would simply argue that even within Hogan's era people remember the non-realistic, non-sport elements the most. Things like Randy Savage's romance and marriage with Elizabeth, A Literal Zombie named Undertaker and TV's Mr. T showing up to help Hulk Hogan because he a played a boxer in a movie certainly stuck with a lot more people a lot longer than any sport-like elements of the show. People remembered Ultimate Warrior facing Hogan in a hero vs hero/title vs title match, but I bet not many people remember the "sports drama," of which of the belts would be on the line from the preceding weeks or Jack Tuney deciding afterward to strip Warrior of the IC title and hold a tournament for it because sports sports sports. Yes, right now Lucha Underground is not a success as a business, but that doesn't mean it won't be and we should loving hope that it eventually is because it's trying something different. Why would anyone take joy at an attempt at innovation within its genre crashing and burning when alternatives to a single monolithic success are what at least some people want? I don't know about you, but I'm as tired of WWE Clones in Wrestling as I am of WOW Clones in MMOs.
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Sanguinia posted:Yes, right now Lucha Underground is not a success as a business, but that doesn't mean it won't be and we should loving hope that it eventually is because it's trying something different. Why would anyone take joy at an attempt at innovation within its genre crashing and burning when alternatives to a single monolithic success are what at least some people want? I don't know about you, but I'm as tired of WWE Clones in Wrestling as I am of WOW Clones in MMOs.
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Jan 30, 2016 06:43
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mrt doesn't actually care and is just trying to rile people up
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Edge & Christian posted:There's a difference between "I like this low-selling/low-viewed [program/promotion/game/book/comic], I wish more people were into it" and "this cult thing I like is awesome and the industry needs to emulate it!" and there's a decent amount of the latter on here. This is a fair point, I think many people on this forum are a little overblown on LU. I understand why because it's the most I've been entertained by wrestling in years and discontent with WWE on the internet is at a very high point right now, but we shouldn't be pretending its a game-changer unti it... you know, changes the game a little bit. I suppose its also dickish of me to have openly posted that I want Roman Reigns to fail and be depushed and then complain that somebody else seems to want something I like to fail. Perhaps I should rethink that dumb position. If I want to consider my argument that I want Roman to fail because management is making the entire show worse for his benefit and there should be consequences for that, maybe I have to consider it valid that some people might think LU is making wrestling in the totality worse for its own benefit and there should be consequences for that. And since I don't think that's a valid argument when it comes to the thing I like, but do when its the thing I dislike... Time for a soul-searching walk around town set to "Dust in the Wind," I think...
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Roman Reigns and Lucha Underground are both cool.
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oatgan posted:mrt doesn't actually care and is just trying to rile people up Mrt never lies he's strong and is my friend
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Wrestling has always had idiot money marks running vanity promotions, at least Lucha Underground is entertaining while it loses millions of dollars and not one of those garbage mid 1990s promotions that was totally going to challenge WCW and WWF with TITO SANTANA VS SGT. SLAUGHTER on top
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Edge & Christian posted:There's a difference between "I like this low-selling/low-viewed [program/promotion/game/book/comic], I wish more people were into it" and "this cult thing I like is awesome and the industry needs to emulate it!" and there's a decent amount of the latter on here. The post he was responding to was about how Cornette hates Lucha Underground, but just imagine his face when he sees the ratings!" which you know, are objectively low. I mean, I think the industry should emulate LU because I like LU a whole goddamn lot and I'm not super big on any of the other current televised wrestling products. I'm also okay with other people disagreeing with me. 
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Another Person posted:i never expected the bonafide lord of butt to be so... agreeable Butts are pretty great, so I'm not surprised.
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I thought Lucha Underground was a big draw on the Unimas network? or is konnan kayfaybing us again?
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Dario the Wop posted:According to Cornette, that's one of the problems with wrestlers these days. They play video games instead of banging groupies, like the good ole days. Speaking of which: Jim Cornette should just be spammed the goofiest Memphis wrestling (that he grew up with and loved) with people riffing on it cause its a million times more "industry exposing" and retarded than anything LU has ever been. Some of that poo poo makes Chikara at its worst look legit
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Sanguinia posted:Is there some reason you want Lucha Underground to fail? I recall this not being the first post I've seen of you being borderline gleeful about the show having poor ratings, not getting its hands on better distribution channels to improve them, and not currently being a profitable endeavor. MRT went from "knowledgeable wrestling database" to "devils advocate troll" the last year or so and he's been adding a lot of pure dick to it as times gone on
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Aesop Poprock posted:Jim Cornette should just be spammed the goofiest Memphis wrestling (that he grew up with and loved) with people riffing on it cause its a million times more "industry exposing" and retarded than anything LU has ever been. Some of that poo poo makes Chikara at its worst look legit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VylZhputrk not business exposing at all, apparently
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Sanguinia posted:Is there some reason you want Lucha Underground to fail? I recall this not being the first post I've seen of you being borderline gleeful about the show having poor ratings, not getting its hands on better distribution channels to improve them, and not currently being a profitable endeavor. I just want Jim Cornette to post more dumb stuff.
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dsriggs posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VylZhputrk How can you post that and not post him in a match?!?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKtJClGVu6Q Seriously, more wrestlers need to shoot fire before hitting their finisher.
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no but you see that was legit because you had redneck hillbillies drunk as gently caress trying to stab heels in the parking lot and a whole bunch of sluts sucking the babyfaces dicks
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I agree with Cornette to a certain point (no hatred, love the traditional pseudo-sport style), which is why I prefer Ring of Honor, though I enjoy Lucha Underground (it's Sports Entertainment done right, if SE could be considered a style of wrestling like Strong Style, King's Road, etc., obviously with Lucha Libre) as well. His vitriol towards LU is so over the top, he's either a crazy old man or playing heel to the internet. I want it to be a gimmick. I like Corny too much. However, his often-mentioned Guest Booker video, where he proceeds to book a terrible InVasion, lends credence to him just being a crazy old man. Reminder that Cornette worked with Cowabunga the Ninja Turtle in Smoky Mountain. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1wolt2_jim-cornette-vs-cowabunga-smokey-mountain-wrestling-08-19-1993_sport
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LORD OF BUTT posted:I mean, I think the industry should emulate LU because I like LU a whole goddamn lot and I'm not super big on any of the other current televised wrestling products. I'm also okay with other people disagreeing with me. TNA has a more viable financial model than LU does right now.
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ayn rand hand job posted:TNA has a more viable financial model than LU does right now. TNA lost money every year for like 15 years and they still exist. At least LU puts on a good television show while losing money.
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ayn rand hand job posted:TNA has a more viable financial model than LU does right now. I don't know that "pray dad's money doesn't stop" is that much more viable than "try new, interesting format and see if it clicks"
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Receiving free money from an outside entity despite making terrible business decisions is a viable business strategy. It worked for the US railroad industry in the 1800s.
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