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G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

alf_pogs posted:

sure; i worded what i meant badly and quickly. speculating about sandi being a bitch because chris roberts is abusive to her felt like a stretch into weird territory to me.
I missed that line of speculation I guess. I started my reply right after you posted and it got really, really long (even for me). So I wasn't really in the flow of the conversation anymore when I finally deleted 2/3rds of it as overkill and posted the above.

And FWIW, I think Chris treats Sandi very well. After all, he moved the nucleus of the company from Austin to Hollywood at enormous backer expense just to help support her acting dreams-- that's true love if I've ever seen it!

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trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Kai Tave posted:

I can't at all fault Paizo for taking advantage of Wizards of the Coast essentially leaving their lunch out there to be eaten, nobody did anything shady or illegal or scammy there, WotC should have had someone to explain to them "this is what might happen if you make your big name RPG open-source" but, well, that person was Ryan Dancey.

Pathfinder Online looked scammy as gently caress from the outset though, and the ways it parallels Star Citizen are uncanny, from the whales dropping four figures on a jpeg of a tavern (with LTI no less!) to the sheer incompetence on display (hey players, be aware there's a bug that could cause you to lose the expensive poo poo you prepurchased if you do certain things, we don't know what causes it though) to the endless stream of empty promises designed to make people fantasize about a game that in no way resembled what was actually delivered (basically an empty Everquest-esque protoMMO with no real content). And like clockwork Ryan Dancey is nowhere to be found when things fall apart, no doubt preparing for his next great venture as a professional ideas guy to people too stupid to know not to trust someone who used to read co-workers' private e-mails.

Yeah, the parallels are many. Anyways, I had to google this Ryan dude and...



Ahahaha, seriously? He looks like a character out of The Wire.

Ravane
Oct 23, 2010

by LadyAmbien


Just want to say that Reddit legit just had one of its biggest breakdowns recently for the CEO banning a subreddit about taking fat people's facebook pictures and posting them their to be made fun of (along with other prejudiced and racist subreddits). When the subreddit was banned (had 200,000 redditors subscribed, if I recall correctly), people just started creating new hate subreddits and posting pictures of the CEO on it (of course, calling her a slut, amongst other words), along with doxxing random staff members of imgur, simply for supporting the Reddit CEO's decision.

The reason I say all of that is because I'm loving grinning at them calling the squadron 42 subreddit a "hate group". :wtchris:

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ravane posted:



Just want to say that Reddit legit just had one of its biggest breakdowns recently for the CEO banning a subreddit about taking fat people's facebook pictures and posting them their to be made fun of (along with other prejudiced and racist subreddits). When the subreddit was banned (had 200,000 redditors subscribed, if I recall correctly), people just started creating new hate subreddits and posting pictures of the CEO on it (of course, calling her a slut, amongst other words), along with doxxing random staff members of imgur, simply for supporting the Reddit CEO's decision.

The reason I say all of that is because I'm loving grinning at them calling the squadron 42 subreddit a "hate group". :wtchris:

Yeah the narrative that r/squadron42 is now a hate reddit is hilarious.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

A Neurotic Jew posted:

So a dude named Kyle Bromley, an Illfonic employee, posted this a few hours ago:

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/0EaVG


Sure looks nice!

Looks grey and brown as gently caress

FIDRLITY

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

alf_pogs posted:

that is loving crazy.

on behalf of adelaide south australia, mega apologies to all that somehow we produced this turd

Oh god, Lesnick is going to end up inside a barrel, isn't he? :magical:

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


Illfonic's stuff unironically is the best-looking stuff to come out of this debacle, even the original SM module footage. Like Interstellar Marines with better graphics, Illfonic should throw it up on steam for 5 dollars :v:

Tanith
Jul 17, 2005


Alpha, Beta, Gamma cores
Use them, lose them, salvage more
Kick off the next AI war
In the Persean Sector

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

Oh god, Lesnick is going to end up inside a barrel, isn't he? :magical:

A crate, actually.

Solarin
Nov 15, 2007

G0RF posted:

But personality - for Chris, Sandi, Ben and other key players - is very much on the table. It has to be. We all already know the answers to the Who? What? Where? When? questions of Star Citizen. But there is no making sense of the How? and especially Why? questions without discussing the personality traits of leadership. There can't be.

It's important to realize their success so far is due to trust and confidence in these key players - both as professionals and as human beings. without that there would be no CIG.

The funny thing is that confidence is based on a fantasy (save PC gaming! Fidelity! Immersion! CR's golden hands!), and CIG must maintain that fantasy to raise more funds. this puts them in a position where honest talk and critical thinking are an existential threat; the only way to keep the trust they have is to go all in on the lie and bluff their way through

e; and also don't use Chris' first take where his lack of respect for the rubes pops out of his mouth

Solarin fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Feb 1, 2016

Ravane
Oct 23, 2010

by LadyAmbien
Just want to say that the actual concept of Karma works over lifetimes, which is why sometimes good things happen to bad people and vice-versa.

So when lovely things happen to lovely people, you gotta remember that they were also lovely in their past lives. And because they're still lovely, their future lives are gonna be lovely too. :smuggo:

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
There must be lights shining brighter, somewhere

got to be birds, flying higher, in a sky more blue

If I can dream, of a better land, where all my brothers walk hand in hand

tell me why, oh why, oh why can't my dream come true (oh why?)

There must be peace and understanding sometime

strong winds of promise that will blow away all the doubt and fear

if I can dream of a warmer sun, where hope keeps shining on everyone

tell me why, oh why, oh why won't that sun appear?

We're lost in a cloud, with too much rain

we're trapped in a world that's troubled with pain

but as long as a man has the strength to dream

he can redeem his soul and fly

(he can flyyy)

deep in my heart, lies a trembling question

still I am sure, that the answer, answer's gonna come some how

out there in the dark, there's a beckoning candle oh yeah

and while I can think

while I can walk

while I can stand

while I can talk

while I can dream, please let my dream, come true ohhh-ohhh


RIGHT NOWW!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CMlYVu9J4g

Brazilianpeanutwar fucked around with this message at 08:43 on Feb 1, 2016

ZenMaster
Jan 24, 2006

I Saved PC Gaming

some citizen wants to give me their badly printed concierge card, I ain't giving out my addy so anyone wants it or has a PO Box, I'll give that to them and you can get a piece of history for free

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
Maybe Illfonic just got so sick of Crobber they told him to stick his money and pulled the plug

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


Unfunny Poster posted:

Yeah the narrative that r/squadron42 is now a hate reddit is hilarious.

HAHAHAHA the squadron42 sub is so positive and cheerful. its fantastic. and it bizarrely is completely drama free. i love this plot twist so much

EminusSleepus
Sep 28, 2015

Ravane posted:



Just want to say that Reddit legit just had one of its biggest breakdowns recently for the CEO banning a subreddit about taking fat people's facebook pictures and posting them their to be made fun of (along with other prejudiced and racist subreddits). When the subreddit was banned (had 200,000 redditors subscribed, if I recall correctly), people just started creating new hate subreddits and posting pictures of the CEO on it (of course, calling her a slut, amongst other words), along with doxxing random staff members of imgur, simply for supporting the Reddit CEO's decision.

The reason I say all of that is because I'm loving grinning at them calling the squadron 42 subreddit a "hate group". :wtchris:

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.


Iä! Iä! Yog-sothoth.

skaboomizzy
Nov 12, 2003

There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
I don't even have an image of what I want to be. I have nothing. All that exists is zero.
Dingo with a thousand young Stimperials

Berious
Nov 13, 2005

alf_pogs posted:

i adore how Lethality once again goes to bat for CIG and everyone is immediately "oh great who invited this guy"

Psychiatrists should recognize fanboyism as a mental disorder imo. You often see the same people moving from game to game defending them until death (of the game) then moving on to the next crusade. It's definitely some sort of personality quirk that makes people pledge their life to poo poo games.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

Berious posted:

Psychiatrists should recognize fanboyism as a mental disorder imo. You often see the same people moving from game to game defending them until death (of the game) then moving on to the next crusade. It's definitely some sort of personality quirk that makes people pledge their life to poo poo games.

I dunno. I'm a massive fan of XCOM, for instance, but...even that, not to the point where I'd willingly give up over 1,000 dollars' worth of cash for essentially nothing.

The trouble tends to start, when you devote so much time/attention to a thing, that you feel like you need it. If XCOM vanished from the Earth tommorow, I'd be real upset and sad, but it wouldn't be like I couldn't go on with my life and poo poo. When this will happen to the true shitizens, though, yeah...some of them will legit an hero and too many have already gotten divorced over it. While the survivors will, sadly, all too likely do as you said, move on to the next crusade.

I'm sure someone versed in psychology/psychiatry could find the technical word for it, tho.

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

alf_pogs posted:

predictions on what gets walked back next?

my feeling is either they start 'redefining' what the PvP slider is and how it works, or they just start dropping multiplayer components all together

With 16 players an instance and safe zones, weapons locked tech already in at the main hub, the easiest, quickest & laziest solution is to let people pick PVP or PVE instances when they launch. Won't do anything about people crashing into you or stealing ships though.

Raskolnikov
Nov 25, 2003

Star citizen is these nerds mistress. They get off on just giving money to be financially dominated.

https://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/nation/i-make-200k-a-year-demanding-money-from-men-online

I need a better job...

Berious
Nov 13, 2005

alf_pogs posted:

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/6313696/#Comment_6313696

this thread is still delivering.


also proving public enemy #1 derek smart wrong is also a giant motivator, but i'm glad the RSI forum is slowly waking up to the space con.

It certainly is a different forum now if people are wondering whether evil publishers actually had their uses

Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

AP posted:

With 16 players an instance and safe zones, weapons locked tech already in at the main hub, the easiest, quickest & laziest solution is to let people pick PVP or PVE instances when they launch. Won't do anything about people crashing into you or stealing ships though.

Welcome to another Star Citizen PTU Journal for the latest PTU patch 2.1.1, it isn’t just a hotfix & improvement patch, it actually has some awesome change, the major one being the Baby PU has Increased it’s Player Cap from 16 to 24 – But can only Spawn in 16 Ships this encourages multi-crewed ships as there are 24 players but only 16 ships. That’s a 50% increase and it seems stable!

The next day it was back to 16.

lol

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



Did Uncle Derek do his lines?

Solarin
Nov 15, 2007

CrazyLoon posted:

I dunno. I'm a massive fan of XCOM, for instance, but...even that, not to the point where I'd willingly give up over 1,000 dollars' worth of cash for essentially nothing.

The trouble tends to start, when you devote so much time/attention to a thing, that you feel like you need it. If XCOM vanished from the Earth tommorow, I'd be real upset and sad, but it wouldn't be like I couldn't go on with my life and poo poo. When this will happen to the true shitizens, though, yeah...some of them will legit an hero and too many have already gotten divorced over it. While the survivors will, sadly, all too likely do as you said, move on to the next crusade.

I'm sure someone versed in psychology/psychiatry could find the technical word for it, tho.

My theory: Belonging is a hell of a drug. Some find it in online games. People really do need it and will fight to keep it from vanishing.

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

hey wesha, what does $30k going down the drain sound like?


parp.

Berious
Nov 13, 2005

Colostomy Bag posted:

Sadly everytime I see his forum name my brain assembles DragonCock.

Guess I've been assimilated in the Stimpire.

You're not the only one goon friend. Bad Dragon has a lot to answer for.

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

A Neurotic Jew posted:

Sandi is literally the female David Brent and is a huge source of comedy for the thread, and I would like to personally encourage people to continue making fun of her for her underlying personality.

She's GOB from Arrested Development with a pinch of Lindsay

Tanith
Jul 17, 2005


Alpha, Beta, Gamma cores
Use them, lose them, salvage more
Kick off the next AI war
In the Persean Sector

Raskolnikov posted:

Star citizen is these nerds mistress. They get off on just giving money to be financially dominated.

https://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/nation/i-make-200k-a-year-demanding-money-from-men-online

I need a better job...

Hiding the amount of money you've spent on jpeg's from your wife? Sounds about right. But then there's the guy who has carrack night once a week with his family.

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer


2.7 million in January, sale light month, they only sold the alien scout and said the packages were cheaper now than they would be as SQ42 and Star Citizen are due to be split.

Derek has ruined the fun of watching the figures a bit now as I'm not sure how reliable they are.

I think 2+months after the release of 2.0 it has become obvious that even if CIG wanted to fix Star Citizen, they don't currently have enough talented staff to do so, the patches are barely even hot-fixes which indicates very few people are actively working on it.

AP fucked around with this message at 10:02 on Feb 1, 2016

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

That's a pretty ace stimpire torture controller

DISCO KING
Oct 30, 2012

STILL
TRYING
TOO
HARD
Can we shitpost to page 2000 already? I missed the last three times something like that happened

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro
Also my wild guess for Derek's "big news" be talked about last week is Illfronic is going to be suing CIG for shady as gently caress business decisions regarding their partnership, as well as unpaid monies from their contact. Maybe even tacking on a few mill for slander on their own forums

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

Solarin posted:

My theory: Belonging is a hell of a drug. Some find it in online games. People really do need it and will fight to keep it from vanishing.

This is the one and only time I'll play armchair psychoanalyst re: Star Citizen and Pathfinder Online and the like. Someone in the PFO thread summed it up rather perfectly I think when they said that it's not games so much that these folks are craving but some kind of virtual reality. That's why you get people wanting to mix drinks and tend stables and be innkeepers and hide in boxes and spinning these wild, entirely fabricated daydreams about life in the 'verse and poo poo, because what they're actually hoping they're funding is some sort of proto-holodeck where they can plug in their VR headset and immersive flight joysticks and be transported to another world entirely.

I'm not suggesting that literally every person who backs something like this is trying to escape their lives or something, I'm sure far more people backed Star Citizen simply because they thought (for some reason) that Chris Roberts would give them a cool new game to play, but by and large those folks are probably the silent majority that don't post stuff like the Stimpire or suggest that there should be space airliners with space stewardesses and a drink mixing minigame. Like, it's been brought up here multiple times over the last 5,000 or so posts (and gently caress off if you think I'm going back and looking for who said it when) that the sort of person who wants drink mixing minigames and space news vans and poo poo isn't the sort of person who's seriously played video games in the last 20 years or so, and yeah, that's probably right. Because they aren't actually after a video game, and their bizarre requests for ridiculous content and strange essays about a fictional video game that exists only within their heads is pretty strong evidence of that.

They want Chris Roberts to be the one to finally deliver this fully immersive, seamless fantasy they've concocted. I don't know why they think he can do it when as far as I can tell his list of accomplishments begins and ends at "made Wing Commander," but he's speaking their language when he agrees that there's going to be seamless orbit-to-surface landings and procedurally generated flora and fauna and so they'll happily keep throwing money at him in the hopes that this project achieves some kind of critical mass, or hell, maybe just to keep the dream going at this point.

Solarin
Nov 15, 2007

Booblord Zagats posted:

She's GOB from Arrested Development with a pinch of Lindsay

I'm gonna have to go with Peggy Hill from King of the Hill, minus the likeable traits

Tanith
Jul 17, 2005


Alpha, Beta, Gamma cores
Use them, lose them, salvage more
Kick off the next AI war
In the Persean Sector

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

That's a pretty ace stimpire torture controller

:vince:

Stealing someone's ride in a game is an essential gameplay mechanic that makes things fun, whether you're taking a child's bicycle, killing a charging horseman, yanking someone out of a car or shooting a helicopter pilot. Star Citizen is not currently capable of supporting similar mechanics. What's the point of a shoulder-railgun if you can't shoot someone in a spaceship with it?

CROWS EVERYWHERE
Dec 17, 2012

CAW CAW CAW

Dinosaur Gum
I met up with my little brother the other day and managed to talk at him about Star Citizen for a good half hour, as he had never heard of it to this point. He thinks Derek Smart sounds like a dickhead though (I think Derek's preferred term is "internet warlord"). It persuaded him to actually download Elite Dangerous and give it a try and he's apparently enjoying it quite a bit :cool:

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

Solarin posted:

I'm gonna have to go with Peggy Hill from King of the Hill, minus the likeable traits

Ooohhh good answer.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

Mirificus posted:

lethality posted:

Form an opinion on the game and gameplay, not the schedule and the process.
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/6313321/#Comment_6313321

Sounds reasonable, I bet this guy is careful to only shill SC by listing implemented features
There's just no :gary: big enough

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AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer




Star Citizen in 2016.
Crashing spaceships
Probably the worst FPS gameplay ever seen in cryengine.
A vending machine that doesn't do anything that people will spend hours moving from place to place even though it only shows up client side.
A 16 player instance cap.
3 different missions.
Flaming buggies

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