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El Hefe posted:F1 needs more drivers like Montoya and Pastor and less like Hulkenberg and Magnussen. i actually unironically agree. neither maldonado nor magnussen will ever win a world title, give the seat to the more entertaining of the two.
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Reminder that the bad team dropped Montoya half way through the season because he crashed too much according to them, when he was actually driving his heart out and just had a lil bit bad luck just like Pastor.
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Feb 1, 2016 20:44
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Norns posted:Montoya is a good driver. What's he have in common with pastor? They are both good drivers.
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Feb 1, 2016 20:44
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Hulk won Le Mans though, not something Hamilton or Vettel or Webber can say
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be nice wicka posted:i actually unironically agree. neither maldonado nor magnussen will ever win a world title, give the seat to the more entertaining of the two. I wish it was Mag and Pastor at Renault. The Danishman is pretty good, they need one guy to bring the car home and another to entertain.
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geonetix posted:Hulk won Le Mans though, not something Hamilton or Vettel or Webber can say Sports car racing is the home of the rejected midfield F1 driver.
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ImplicitAssembler posted:That gif explains more than anything why that moron shouldn't be in F1. Good riddance. That car was a pile.
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be nice wicka posted:i actually unironically agree. neither maldonado nor magnussen will ever win a world title, give the seat to the more entertaining of the two. I also unironically agree with this as well. Even if you think Maldonado was bad/terrible he's not he loving had personality and a driving style that wasn't dictated by some computer algorithm that determines the exact point to lift and coast through every corner for optimal fuel savings. The man was loving exciting to watch drive and the last time you could say that about any driver other than him on a consistent basis was Alonso in 2012.
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Human Grand Prix posted:I wish it was Mag and Pastor at Renault. The Danishman is pretty good, they need one guy to bring the car home and another to entertain. jolyon palmer strikes me as the new max chilton. also you've seemingly forgotten 2014, where magnussen was simultaneously boring and unable to complete a pass without hitting the other driver.
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Feb 1, 2016 21:02
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Human Grand Prix posted:That car was a pile. So? "Oh I'm understeering badly in one of the longestcorners in F1, let me just wiggle the wheel a bit and keep the foot in it". That wasn't 'pushing limits', that was completely ignoring them. He wasn't even close to making that corner and had loads of time to get out of a bad situation, but didn't. Again, he would never have been in F1, if it hadn't been for his oil money. Montoya had talent, at least. He may not have had the emotional control necessary, but at least he could drive and for the most part, keep the car pointed the right direction. His biggest failing was suffering badly from victim mentality. Had he been able to control that, he would probably have won a WDC or two.
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Feb 1, 2016 21:04
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Just for your information there is this thing called snap oversteer that frequently happens when mid rear engined racing cars are built on a shoestring budget. Any number of things could've caused that accident. Especially on the lotus cars where every loving thing was breaking repeatedly and parts were used well past their service life.
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Feb 1, 2016 21:16
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be nice wicka posted:jolyon palmer strikes me as the new max chilton. also you've seemingly forgotten 2014, where magnussen was simultaneously boring and unable to complete a pass without hitting the other driver. I basically remember Magnussen in Australia and, uh...well I guess you are right about him being Heidfeld mark II.
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Feb 1, 2016 21:19
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This is the same company that brought in Fast Heikki to fill up Alonso's seat.
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1500quidporsche posted:This is the same company that brought in Fast Heikki to fill up Alonso's seat. This is the same company who employed Giancarlo Fisichella for years and years, far more damning
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Feb 1, 2016 21:34
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geonetix posted:Hulk won Le Mans though, not something Hamilton or Vettel or Webber can say He did like 30% of the work in that race. It's a really generous number considering the car he was in. Maldonado did 100% of the work when he won the 2012 Spanish Grand Prix.
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geonetix posted:Hulk won Le Mans though, not something Hamilton or Vettel or Webber can say Webber flew Le Mans which makes it more glorious than winning. Also, doesn't Pastor have the same amount of wins than Are Brundle?
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keevo posted:He did like 30% of the work in that race. It's a really generous number considering the car he was in. Maldonado did 100% of the work when he won the 2012 Spanish Grand Prix. You've got to give a decent chunk of the work for that win to McLaren, honestly.
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Myrddin_Emrys posted:Webber flew Le Mans which makes it more glorious than winning. no
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Brundle never won.
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1500quidporsche posted:Just for your information there is this thing called snap oversteer that frequently happens when mid rear engined racing cars are built on a shoestring budget.
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Feb 1, 2016 21:58
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Tsaedje posted:You've got to give a decent chunk of the work for that win to McLaren, honestly. Ehh I don't know. I'll give them some credit but McLaren was always going to gently caress up with Sam Michael in charge.
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Feb 1, 2016 21:58
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Brundle is a le mans winner and one of the finest mid field drivers of his day.
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At least we all still have the best driver, Sebastian Vettel driving for the best team. Scuderia Ferrari.
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Feb 1, 2016 22:00
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Norns posted:Montoya is a good driver. What's he have in common with pastor?
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Human Grand Prix posted:I basically remember Magnussen in Australia and, uh...well I guess you are right about him being Heidfeld mark II. I'll never forget him constantly sniffing at decent results and then getting penalized
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ImplicitAssembler posted:Don't be silly. He understeers all the way out on the green painted areas where the rear tires finally decides they'd had enough. Sure, it 'snaps', but that's because he pushed it out where there was no grip. He realized how boring the race was and courageously decided to crash his car to give the fans some excitement. Pastor MWDC every year.
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Feb 1, 2016 22:40
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Pastor is just tired of all the racism he gets thrown every day by F1 fans so he's going to race in NASCAR this year.
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I feel bad for Jolyon because people won't realize his true potential now Pastor would have been a much tougher nut to crack but beating him would have proved he's a future WDC. Beating Magnussen only proves that you're not the worst driver in the grid.
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El Hefe posted:Pastor is just tired of all the racism he gets thrown every day by F1 fans so he's going to race in NASCAR this year. A car built for a driver like pastor.
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El Hefe posted:Pastor is just tired of all the racism he gets thrown every day by F1 fans so he's going to race in NASCAR this year. He's tired of racism so he's going to go to race in a more racist series.
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Feb 1, 2016 23:26
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I would genuinely like to see Maldo in NASCAR. That could be great.
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Formula 1 race winner Pastor Maldonado is a great driver and I hope we see him again in 2017. I'd even tolerate Ferrari if he were to drive for them (and beat Vettel's rear end).
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the foreign drivers who've joined nascar have been generally very well-liked
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be nice wicka posted:the foreign drivers who've joined nascar have been generally very well-liked Its almost like americans are the friendly, welcoming ones. Why do we let some old rear end european run this awesome sport again?
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Pastor was a legend, and a proven race winner. Magnussen is so boring that he might as well be in the Red Bull system. Bad move.
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Renault will need to unveil an top notch retro livery to impress me at this point.
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ImplicitAssembler posted:Don't be silly. He understeers all the way out on the green painted areas where the rear tires finally decides they'd had enough. Sure, it 'snaps', but that's because he pushed it out where there was no grip. While it's understeering out wide, it's periodically breaking away at the rear, I see him catching the car from looping 4 times before he finally loses it. Still fraudulent driving though - your point stands.
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MustardFacial posted:Goodnight sweet prince. This actually killed Alonso.
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If Mclaren are still dogshit and Mercedes still have the best car by a country mile I'm not even gonna bother watching the races tbqh hopefully at least Ferrari get their poo poo together because these last 2 seasons have been loving awful
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El Hefe posted:hopefully at least Ferrari get their poo poo together they wont have hes on contract
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