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AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

It would be a reasonable chart, if not optimal, if it had more objective labels, as it is it's funny because

Ishamael posted:


GOO FACTOR


E: gently caress.

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NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
Radar charts are garbage because the shape the lines make are meaningless.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

Radar charts are garbage because the shape the lines make are meaningless.

Unless you're comparing a ton of things by the same categories, in which case the simple shape can make for quick interpretation. Such as characters in a video game.

For a straight one to another comparison yeah it's pretty garbage

Autumn Angel
Jan 18, 2014

*Pretend that I posted every pie chart ever created*
Pie charts are bad pieces of crap pushed by marketing execs.

Judge Schnoopy posted:

Unless you're comparing a ton of things by the same categories, in which case the simple shape can make for quick interpretation. Such as characters in a video game.

For a straight one to another comparison yeah it's pretty garbage

Basically, it only makes sense if each adjacent corner is related to the other adjacent corner. This is pretty much never true of these charts though. I can't even think of that many real-world situations where these rules would apply, making them good for video games and nothing else.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal
They make a whole lot of sense when the categories are time. Such as twelve points, one for each month, comparing quantities of things throughout the year.

This is not one of those.

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Judge Schnoopy posted:

They make a whole lot of sense when the categories are time. Such as twelve points, one for each month, comparing quantities of things throughout the year.

This is not one of those.



Oh wow.

Oh wow.

There's gotta be some basic argument flaw here. I'm thinking it's a post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc thing, but I feel like there's something a bit more fine-tuned to this exact situation.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!
I'm going to object more to the use of splines for a radar chart to make puke looking shapes.

Fuschia tude
Dec 26, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

ikanreed posted:

I'm going to object more to the use of splines for a radar chart to make puke looking shapes.

No, that's the least objectionable part of that graph.

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

Somfin posted:

Oh wow.

Oh wow.

There's gotta be some basic argument flaw here. I'm thinking it's a post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc thing, but I feel like there's something a bit more fine-tuned to this exact situation.

Makes sense to me since they asked poor people "what are the main reasons for success" and they probably thought rich people as being successful, not their selves.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

I love that nobody is willing to admit that it's luck.

doodlebugs
Feb 18, 2015

by Lowtax

lol at the guy who ate this slop

Tiberius Thyben
Feb 7, 2013

Gone Phishing


PittTheElder posted:

I love that nobody is willing to admit that it's luck.

Well, both connections and initial capital are functions of luck, so :v:

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Judge Schnoopy posted:

They make a whole lot of sense when the categories are time. Such as twelve points, one for each month, comparing quantities of things throughout the year.

This is not one of those.



The Shoggoth School of Success

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

The Shoggoth School of Success

Shoggoth's Old Peculiar Graph

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Shoggoth's Old Peculiar Graph

This Color's Out of Space

Eggbeater Jesus
Sep 21, 2008

Add a dab of lavender to milk. Leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it.

PittTheElder posted:

I love that nobody is willing to admit that it's luck.

I love that even fewer people think it has anything to do with your skills and talents.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
Yeah, we all remember the story about that North Korean kid who grew up to become a famous CEO due to her skills and dedication even though she had no luck whatsoever about where she was born, what her society thought about her gender, her complete lack of social networking with anyone else in the industry, her ability to even have enough to eat, her ability to avoid mental-ability-affecting diseases, disabilities, and injuries, and a whole slew of other stuff completely out of her control. Bootstraps!

If only there were some point between one extreme and another; oh well

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

Sentient Data posted:

Yeah, we all remember the story about that North Korean kid who grew up to become a famous CEO due to her skills and dedication even though she had no luck whatsoever about where she was born, what her society thought about her gender, her complete lack of social networking with anyone else in the industry, her ability to even have enough to eat, her ability to avoid mental-ability-affecting diseases, disabilities, and injuries, and a whole slew of other stuff completely out of her control. Bootstraps!

If only there were some point between one extreme and another; oh well

There is.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Judge Schnoopy posted:

They make a whole lot of sense when the categories are time. Such as twelve points, one for each month, comparing quantities of things throughout the year.

This is not one of those.


Love that someone looked at this and concluded the poor are lazy rather than the rich are loving delusional.

Whooping Crabs
Apr 13, 2010

Sorry for the derail but I fuckin love me some racoons

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Ready! Set! Blow!
Jun 17, 2005

Red alert.
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/foi-uk-drug-conviction-ethnicity-282



How do you gently caress up a pie chart that badly?

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

They're all the same chart so I'm assuming they've photoshopped a decent, for a pie chart, chart over a stock image of a bunch of ecstasy pills falling out of a bottle, then removed any hint of being remotely clever.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

AlphaKretin posted:

They're all the same chart so I'm assuming they've photoshopped a decent, for a pie chart, chart over a stock image of a bunch of ecstasy pills falling out of a bottle, then removed any hint of being remotely clever.

Yeah but check out orange. There's some excel weirdness there where the biggest chart doesn't display orange and seems to be hidden under green. You can see it clipping through on two of the other charts

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

Oooh ok yeah that's bad.

I was phoneposting when I first saw the graph, in my defense. :downs:

EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

DOLF IS RECHTVAARDIG
Well, the orange/green things is for people who don't state their mixed race. Obviously.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!

Maybe it's just because I took too much math in college, but this chart communicates a rather complicated notion(assuming it uses any sort of meaningful data) pretty effectively, and I'd certainly ding it for style, the substance seems really good.

Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

ikanreed posted:

Maybe it's just because I took too much math in college, but this chart communicates a rather complicated notion(assuming it uses any sort of meaningful data) pretty effectively, and I'd certainly ding it for style, the substance seems really good.
Business people don't use data.

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012





As a company in a Gartner Magic Quadrant that's not actually that bad a chart, they make worse, far far worse. Which you then have to try and interpret the results of so you can end up in the right Quadrant next time.

Fuschia tude
Dec 26, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

PPP is usually not a bad pollster...

https://twitter.com/Nicki_Doyle/status/699608798789558273

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Aramoro posted:

As a company in a Gartner Magic Quadrant that's not actually that bad a chart, they make worse, far far worse. Which you then have to try and interpret the results of so you can end up in the right Quadrant next time.
We're in that chart too and I've seen it at work before, so it didn't even stand out here. The reason it's awful is that loving Tableau is/was leading wtf :argh:

Strudel Man posted:

Business people don't use data.
ah that's why

Tree Goat
May 24, 2009

argania spinosa
What's wrong with Tableau?

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

This reminds me of the greatest British political institution: the Lib Dem Bar Chart:






:allears:

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Tree Goat posted:

What's wrong with Tableau?

Nothing, really, I'm just mad we're not in the top right corner where we rightfully belong.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Ok some content for a change:

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




mobby_6kl posted:

We're in that chart too and I've seen it at work before, so it didn't even stand out here. The reason it's awful is that loving Tableau is/was leading wtf :argh:

I'm in a different sector but we've moved into ~visionary~ quadrant now. We've hired some ex—gartner analysists to tell us who we have to pay to move up.

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

mobby_6kl posted:

Ok some content for a change:



Xbox likes 'em gay, Wii likes 'em anime, and Playstation likes 'em old and/or oedipal.

Seems about right.

Nostradingus
Jul 13, 2009



Cool chart guys

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

This is not so much awful, more funny in what it means. The numbers are average OKCupid compatibility scores for that starsign combination.



Well, :rip: the idea that that meant anything. :v:

I can't take credit for this by the way, I found it catching up on the pseudoscience thread in SAL.

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Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
Slap an offset axis on it and you can tell everyone that Aquariuses loving hate each other.

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