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GoodbyeTurtles

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Just own that brutally savaged in the bedroom look

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Chill la Chill

Don't lose your gay


well I punch a wall with only a newspaper layer to toughen up my knuckles so maybe try that with your shoulders?

Apparently I'm #1 Kotori fan


thank you matoi and vanisher for the sigs, lovely dad for the cool av

Matoi Ryuko


Piso Mojado

Matoi Ryuko



He's the ultimate byob fitness thread mascot. He's even got the byob meme hat!

Chill la Chill

Don't lose your gay


Apparently I'm #1 Kotori fan


thank you matoi and vanisher for the sigs, lovely dad for the cool av

GoodbyeTurtles

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How do I fit a surfboard, longboard, mountainbike, climbing gear and myself + bed & small kitchen in a medium sized van

Matoi Ryuko


GoodbyeTurtles posted:

How do I fit a surfboard, longboard, mountainbike, climbing gear and myself + bed & small kitchen in a medium sized van

You could just rent a U-haul, they're very inexpensive!

bacalou


GoodbyeTurtles posted:

How do I fit a surfboard, longboard, mountainbike, climbing gear and myself + bed & small kitchen in a medium sized van

boards and bike go on the outside, climbing gear and kitchen inside, bed either fold down seat or fold out futon

Piso Mojado

bacalou posted:

boards and bike go on the outside, climbing gear and kitchen inside, bed either fold down seat or fold out futon

you gotta hang hammocks in that van, and truly live.


GoodbyeTurtles

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Piso Mojado posted:

you gotta hang hammocks in that van, and truly live.

Was gonna do that but I need a permanent bed / storage space anyway

Matoi Ryuko posted:

You could just rent a U-haul, they're very inexpensive!

I'm UK gonna van eourp for 6 months

bacalou posted:

boards and bike go on the outside, climbing gear and kitchen inside, bed either fold down seat or fold out futon

This is a good idea but I need to figure out how to keep a bike on a roofrack

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alnilam

GoodbyeTurtles posted:

This is a good idea but I need to figure out how to keep a bike on a roofrack

There are bike roof rax where you take off the front wheel but in a van you might get clearance issues... I'd go for a trunk mounted one that hangs off the back

I.N.R.I

GoodbyeTurtles posted:

This is a good idea but I need to figure out how to keep a bike on a roofrack

sideways :P

GoodbyeTurtles

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I.N.R.I posted:

sideways :P

Yeah, ok

Chill la Chill

Don't lose your gay


GoodbyeTurtles posted:

How do I fit a surfboard, longboard, mountainbike, climbing gear and myself + bed & small kitchen in a medium sized van
get a vanagon, we always stored a couple longboards and bikes inside of it easily

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GoodbyeTurtles

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Chill la Chill posted:

get a vanagon, we always stored a couple longboards and bikes inside of it easily

My van is bigger than a vanagon and much more reliable!!

Matoi Ryuko


lite_sleepr

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i do stronglifts 5x5s 3 times a week.

it's great because it's only 5 reps at a time, and you increase the weight by 5 pounds each time!

checks it out! http://stronglifts.com/5x5/

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lmbo calrissian

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What r ur favorite back muscle exerciseszzz
Beside pullup

Shine

No Muscles For The Majority

lmbo calrissian posted:

What r ur favorite back muscle exerciseszzz
Beside pullup

Chest-supported rows and cable rows.

Piso Mojado

Shine posted:

Chest-supported rows and cable rows.

yeah, I love me some cable rows

alnilam

Dead lift :hb:
Back extensions
Bent over dbell row

lite_sleepr

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lmbo calrissian posted:

What r ur favorite back muscle exerciseszzz
Beside pullup

bent over barbell row

big compound movements with barbells are the best.

machines are for dumb dudebros and women.

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hemale in pain




PRESIDENT GOKU posted:



machines are for dumb dudebros and women.

no

Shine

No Muscles For The Majority

GoodbyeTurtles

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I don't trust the machines but goddammit I respect them

lite_sleepr

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MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE

real talk tho, you should only use machines for sculpting purposes, or if you're injured or older.

to get stronger, you should use free weights (barbells first, then dumbbells if you must) all the time. As much as you can.

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Shine

No Muscles For The Majority

PRESIDENT GOKU posted:

MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE

real talk tho, you should only use machines for sculpting purposes, or if you're injured or older.

to get stronger, you should use free weights (barbells first, then dumbbells if you must) all the time. As much as you can.

You should give this Real Talk to all those powerlifters who are far stronger than you'll ever be and who make liberal use of machines in their strength training.

alnilam

That being said though, aren't free weights good for beginners because they work a lot of muscles at once and give you a good all around workout for few actual movements?

hemale in pain




alnilam posted:

That being said though, aren't free weights good for beginners because they work a lot of muscles at once and give you a good all around workout for few actual movements?

i suck at lifting and i'm just parroting crap i heard on the internet but i think you basically need to work more at stabilising the weight with free weights and big multi joint movements help you get used to coordinating your muscles (I think?)

GoodbyeTurtles

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I'm not lifting my bod up this wall, I'm pushing the earth down

alnilam

Yeah that's a thing I thought too, they build up stabilization strength that you don't necessarily get with targeted machines, but that you need to actually do strong person stuff

Obviously an advanced lifter knows enough to work on targeted lifts with machines and keep up their stabilizing muscles too, but a beginner might be like ooh i want big triceps I'll use a triceps machine, without building up the auxiliary muscles they need??

let i hug

In a world where you could ONLY do free weights or machines free weights would be better because youre getting better central nervous system activation and stimulating more growth but machines are good for pushing major muscle groups even further once youre too tired to do more big compound lifts.

If you can only do squats or only do leg extensions then squats are better but really you should do squats until youre too tired to do more and then go to leg extensions to really roast your quads. Both body builders and power lifters (and oly lifters) do this kind of thing.

Chill la Chill

Don't lose your gay


I ripped my shorts doing squats once. I think they caught on the back of my knees as I went down. ripped right down the middle. good thing my boxer-briefs didn't rip. I was just getting started with leg day though so it would be a waste if I went home early. I finished leg day and later walked home with a big hole in my shorts.

well that's my story. I'll stitch my shorts together when I have some time but luckily it was on the seam so it won't be noticeable

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Shine

No Muscles For The Majority
While freeweight compound lifts are the backbone of most strength programs and the basic movements offer lots of bang for the buck, there are handy uses for machines in strength training programs. For example, strength coach Dan John has suggested machine rows over freeweight rows in at least one of his books because they are easier to perform correctly than barbell rows. Like all geriatric strength coaches, he grew up with and loves barbell rows, but he recognizes that they aren't the only way to strengthen the back. When I had it available, I would do chest-supported rows instead of barbell rows because it was easier on my lower back, which is usually fried from squats, deadlifts, and Olympic lifts.

alnilam posted:

Obviously an advanced lifter knows enough to work on targeted lifts with machines and keep up their stabilizing muscles too, but a beginner might be like ooh i want big triceps I'll use a triceps machine, without building up the auxiliary muscles they need??

Their arms will fall off.

For purist strength training (i.e. powerlifter sort of stuff), much of what you do will involve barbells and dumbbells. But it's not like a person won't improve their general health using only machines. The programs I recommend and write are all centered around freeweight movements and that is my "generic" suggestion to beginners who want to lift weights but don't really know what they want to accomplish beyond "get stronger and maybe look better?", but I recognize that there are folks out there like my dad. He's been doing machine-dominated workouts for decades, and he's still far stronger than the average person; it's not like his "stabilizers" fall apart when he helps people move.

hemale in pain




Chill la Chill posted:

I ripped my shorts doing squats once. I think they caught on the back of my knees as I went down. ripped right down the middle. good thing my boxer-briefs didn't rip. I was just getting started with leg day though so it would be a waste if I went home early. I finished leg day and later walked home with a big hole in my shorts.

well that's my story. I'll stitch my shorts together when I have some time but luckily it was on the seam so it won't be noticeable

this sounds like the start of a gay porn

Piso Mojado

Shine posted:

While freeweight compound lifts are the backbone of most strength programs and the basic movements offer lots of bang for the buck, there are handy uses for machines in strength training programs. For example, strength coach Dan John has suggested machine rows over freeweight rows in at least one of his books because they are easier to perform correctly than barbell rows. Like all geriatric strength coaches, he grew up with and loves barbell rows, but he recognizes that they aren't the only way to strengthen the back. When I had it available, I would do chest-supported rows instead of barbell rows because it was easier on my lower back, which is usually fried from squats, deadlifts, and Olympic lifts.


Their arms will fall off.

For purist strength training (i.e. powerlifter sort of stuff), much of what you do will involve barbells and dumbbells. But it's not like a person won't improve their general health using only machines. The programs I recommend and write are all centered around freeweight movements and that is my "generic" suggestion to beginners who want to lift weights but don't really know what they want to accomplish beyond "get stronger and maybe look better?", but I recognize that there are folks out there like my dad. He's been doing machine-dominated workouts for decades, and he's still far stronger than the average person; it's not like his "stabilizers" fall apart when he helps people move.

:catstare:

Chill la Chill

Don't lose your gay


hemale in pain posted:

this sounds like the start of a gay porn

Someone started doing deadlifts behind me, actually

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alnilam

What does a row machine look like, of the sort you're talking about, shine

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