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Dusty Baker 2
Jul 8, 2011

Keyboard Inghimasi

Oracle posted:

What's up, Jakartagoons?



[url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jan/14/multiple-explosions-gunshots-reported-in-jakarta-rolling-report


7 explosions, reports of 10-14 gunmen.

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ass struggle
Dec 25, 2012

by Athanatos
It's ISIS

Dusty Baker 2
Jul 8, 2011

Keyboard Inghimasi

You think so? What makes you think that?

(not being antagonistic, I genuinely want to know heh)

ass struggle
Dec 25, 2012

by Athanatos
It's a country full of western loving traitor Muslims, with just enough ISIS sympathizers to find a dozen or so people to run into american businesses loaded with bombs

ass struggle
Dec 25, 2012

by Athanatos
https://twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/687523986868015104

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

It looks alot like those islamist militia factions in Java Wid was talking about.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
... did I just watch three police officers get blown up?

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

Err 7 dead of which 5 were the attackers. Kind of scratching my head at that

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

shrike82 posted:

Err 7 dead of which 5 were the attackers. Kind of scratching my head at that

I am pretty much fine with this outcome.

Would prefer just the five, or zero and a bunch of dudes arrested, but whatever.

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

holy poo poo. Yeah, you saw three people getting blown up. Its not graphic (the video camera shakes away at time of detonation and turns off right after) but goddamn.

ass struggle
Dec 25, 2012

by Athanatos
very strange, they seemed to be only targeting police. We can be thankful for this, otherwise the toll would have been much higher.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
How did Four Lions miss the chance to spoof a suicide bomber running after someone, desperately trying to catch them, holding the detonator in his hand?

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
Especially when there was that schlubby white goon muslim in the movie! :v:

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

Do they expect anyone to buy the explanation for Najib's money?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/27/world/asia/malaysia-najib-razak-saudi-donation-1mdb.html?ref=world&_r=0

quote:

Mr. Apandi, who was appointed by the prime minister last year after the previous attorney general abruptly left office, said the largest amount, $681 million, “was a personal donation” from the Saudi royal family.

“I am satisfied that there was no evidence to show that the donation was a form of gratification given corruptly,” Mr. Apandi said in a statement released by the attorney general’s office.

The statement also said that part of the money — $620 million — was returned to the Saudi royal family in 2013 “because the sum was not utilized.”

In a statement of his own on Tuesday, Mr. Najib said that he welcomed the attorney general’s findings and that the matter “has been comprehensively put to rest.”

The attorney general’s remarks were the most explicit on the transfers to date. But no reason was provided as to why the Saudi royal family would send Mr. Najib such a large sum of money.

Nor did the attorney general say how much was spent of the $61 million that Mr. Najib did not send back.

bird cooch
Jan 19, 2007
This is a pretty cool thread! I just spent a month traveling through indonesia and the last few weeks in Malaysia. Im in penang right now before moving into Thailand for a month. Our hotel in jakarta was a block from all the excitement but we left a few days earlier so that was pretty exciting.

We are really looking forward to spending time in Burma in a few months along with just generally bumbling around the region.

Keep up the good thread!

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

bird cooch posted:

This is a pretty cool thread! I just spent a month traveling through indonesia and the last few weeks in Malaysia. Im in penang right now before moving into Thailand for a month. Our hotel in jakarta was a block from all the excitement but we left a few days earlier so that was pretty exciting.

We are really looking forward to spending time in Burma in a few months along with just generally bumbling around the region.

Keep up the good thread!

You might want the T&T thread for travel and expat stuff.

CronoGamer
May 15, 2004

why did this happen
https://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/hun-sen-fed-up-with-criticism-of-asean-meet-107661/

quote:

Hun Sen ‘Fed Up’ With Criticism of Asean Meet

by Kuch Naren | February 6, 2016

Prime Minister Hun Sen on Fri­day expressed frustration at the widespread perception that Cam­bodia was in thrall to China during its 2012 Asean chairmanship, and attacked a critic who suggested that his government had attempted to placate Beijing after the re­cent visit of U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry to Phnom Penh.

...

During a press conference last month, a senior official with the U.S. State Department said that almost every Southeast Asian country felt that “the problems of Cambodia’s chairmanship left a black mark on Asean and are not to be repeated.”
Mr. Hun Sen said on Friday that he was “fed up” with this line of discussion.

“I told John Kerry that it was time to give me justice about the issue of the South China Sea in 2012,” he said, adding that he had felt it was important to make his views clear to Mr. Kerry in advance of an Asean summit in California that will be held later this month.

“I told John Kerry that I’m very disappointed because I need them to know that I’m really fed up before [joining] the Asean-America Meeting.”

“Why am I fed up? Because they said that Cambodia is too close to China, that’s why it failed to issue a CoC.”

Mr. Hun Sen noted that Asean summits in other countries had also failed to produce joint statements on the issue, and that nobody had succeeded in creating a CoC.

“So those who attacked Cambodia and attacked me in the past should apologize and comfort me. They should give me justice and grant me innocence.”

Despite this, Mr. Hun Sen reiterated that he shared China’s position that territorial disputes in the sea should be solved bilaterally.

i really really love this.

Also, I met Sam Rainsy a few days ago. Not as unbalanced as his reputation might have led one to think. Bit of an ego on him to be sure but he's a hell of a lot better than the alternative.

Fragrag
Aug 3, 2007
The Worst Admin Ever bashes You in the head with his banhammer. It is smashed into the body, an unrecognizable mass! You have been struck down.
So homophobia in Indonesia is somehow starting to flare up again and quite dramatically.

And that's just the news from today. :smith:

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
Meanwhile Singapore censored Obama making what they deemed to be a pro-LGBT comment:

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2016/02/23/singapore-censors-obama-lgbt-comments-on-ellen/

Tytan
Sep 17, 2011

u wot m8?

You might hate this:

https://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/construction-starts-on-prime-ministers-win-win-stupa-109018/

quote:

Construction of a massive me­morial in Phnom Penh’s Chroy Changva district designed to pay homage to the achievements of Prime Minister Hun Sen commenced on Thursday, with a De­fense Ministry spokesman en­cour­aging public donations to en­sure its speedy completion.

The stupa’s three pillars will mark the successes of Mr. Hun Sen’s “win-win” policy, which the prime minister credits with ending decades of civil war in the country, said Chhum Socheat, spokes­man for the Defense Ministry.

quote:

“We have a financial plan, but we cannot disclose it because we want to be open to public contributions. The duration of construction depends on the financial contribution by Cambodian people both inside and outside the country,” Gen. Socheat said. “The more contributions, the faster construction will be.”

wid
Sep 7, 2005
Living in paradise (only bombed once)

Fragrag posted:

So homophobia in Indonesia is somehow starting to flare up again and quite dramatically.

And that's just the news from today. :smith:

It's a recent trend. There's been some slow, low key movement in trying to expand gay rights but then this folk singer with a religious slant who had been divorced for a couple of months (years?) got into a scandal where he was found sexually molested an early teens under-aged boy. The media decided this should be the ratings boost they needed since the political slapfight between Jokowi and Prabowo's camps are winding down with Prabowo's camp crumbling into dust. So starts the Indonesia Gay Panic 2016. Even people who I once considered to be intelligent started their spiel how kids these days chose the gay lifestyle as a form of rebelling from their parents. Everyone suddenly got their own theories how people turn gay.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
as long as those theories are not "it's a Western conspiracy to corrupt our youths away from the path of piousness", I'd consider it a win, really

Fragrag
Aug 3, 2007
The Worst Admin Ever bashes You in the head with his banhammer. It is smashed into the body, an unrecognizable mass! You have been struck down.
Ohhh if only. Along with most porn sites, they have blocked Reddit, and have started to move to Imgur and Tumblr, because of the lewd (Western) content and morals that are on them.
The West have also been referred to by several figures in the LGBT debate, as its openness are claimed to be corrupting the youth.

It's literally "THINK OF THE KIDS" here and meanwhile they're pushing laws to rein in the anti-corruption committee and ignoring blatant cases of corruption like the prosecution of the two teachers at an International School in Jakarta for alleged child abuse or the forceful chaotic evacuation of red light districts in Jakarta and Surabaya.

I'm here on another three week visit for my school project and I still admire the people and the culture, but it's endemic structural weaknesses are starting to wear me down.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
How does Indonesia enforce online censorship, anyway? ISP-level DNS blocks? Singapore/China-style national proxies?

wid
Sep 7, 2005
Living in paradise (only bombed once)
Tranparent DNS proxy at the ISP level. Meaning thise who knows a bit about how internet works and a dollar or two can get a proxy to bypass the whole thing. Imgur was actually blocked a couple of years ago when the minister of information technology was a loving fundie who barely understood how computers work. Then it got unbanned. But they still banned vimeo and gawker for some reason. The aforementioned minister once blocked YouTube due to the mohammed cartoon fiasco but the backlash was so great SBY had to deal with it. So any bullshit they came up with by now just sounds so hypocritical. On the other hand, fundies had been a bit mum on website banning lately since the current minister kept banning hardline fundie and jihad sites.

The biggest ISP even blocked netflix a month ago claiming it has pornography in its list even when the government didn't tell them to block it or even had a law about it. It's obvious it's a business move to curb bandwidth usage so popular website banning might not just be about moral outrage.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

A conservative Southeast Asian country is turning into a Boring World Where Dirty Jokes Don't Exist? Well I never! :razz:

Centusin
Aug 5, 2009
When I was in hospital in Indonesia, I couldn't even access the video game site I wanted to access without using a proxy. All I wanted to do was listen to a podcast about games so I didn't die of boredom, shits dumb.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Scylo posted:

When I was in hospital in Indonesia, I couldn't even access the video game site I wanted to access without using a proxy. All I wanted to do was listen to a podcast about games so I didn't die of boredom, shits dumb.

Sri Lanka has a weird loving blocking system. I swear to God they must have a random number generator to decide which sites to block/unblock each month.

I know a guy who is peripherally involved (he does anti software piracy stuff) and mentioned that it seems like a shitshow. "I can't really talk about it, but yeah, it is. :sigh:"

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Malaysia stuff: Mahatir quits UMNO... again?

wid
Sep 7, 2005
Living in paradise (only bombed once)
He's a serial rage-quitter.

CronoGamer
May 15, 2004

why did this happen
We haven't really talked about 1MDB much in here at all have we?

First, what made me think about it today; a WSJ article exploring Red Granite Pictures, the company that funded Wolf of Wall Street and most indications appears to have gotten all $155 million from the 1MDB fund (the chairman is Najib's stepson).

Second, the fact that Mahathir and Anwar are aligned and have signed a pledge together on this is something that would have been unimaginable just a year or two ago. Mahathir and Muhyiddin quitting/being ousted, all the international probes into the 1MDB money, trying to replace the Bank Negara Malaysia chief with a crony and getting called out, that RIDICULOUS letter from the Saudi prince they trotted out as proof that they got a $350 million gift just for being good at Islam... I keep wondering how on earth Najib is still in place but the experts I talk to don't think he's going anywhere until 2018. What the hell, Malaysia.

CronoGamer
May 15, 2004

why did this happen
Sooooo. How bout that Duterte win eh? Think you can bid farewell to the slim hope of a decent multilateral solution to the South China Sea issues at this point...

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011

CronoGamer posted:

Sooooo. How bout that Duterte win eh? Think you can bid farewell to the slim hope of a decent multilateral solution to the South China Sea issues at this point...

Fuckin' a.

At least Robredo's giving Marcos a run for his money. Heard about the Liberal Party conspiracy to get rid of Duterte and have Robredo take the seat, which sounds similar to a Marcos conspiracy to do the same should Bongbong win?

CronoGamer
May 15, 2004

why did this happen

toasterwarrior posted:

Fuckin' a.

At least Robredo's giving Marcos a run for his money. Heard about the Liberal Party conspiracy to get rid of Duterte and have Robredo take the seat, which sounds similar to a Marcos conspiracy to do the same should Bongbong win?

Trillanes has been talking about ousting Duterte since before the election... not that Duterte didn't deserve it, since he was already threatening to dismiss Congress if they didn't help him pass his policies. But Trillanes has been itching for a good coup since GMA and he's bound to see the inside of a jail cell one way or another under Duterte.

It would really be nice if the Philippines could go just two presidents in a row without an ouster, a stolen election or a post-presidency prison sentence.

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011
Considering the poo poo that gets heaped on you as the Philippine president before, during, and after presidency, sometimes I wonder why people bother to fight over it so much.

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
Is the Philippines as terrible as it's public image or do only the worst stories filter through to here?

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011

Jippa posted:

Is the Philippines as terrible as it's public image or do only the worst stories filter through to here?

It's not as bad as it sounds, no. There are worse places to be; it's just that it could be doing so much better.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
Yeah, it's one of those things where you go, "Jesus, these people are basically keeping various parts of the world operating, but at home they get a poo poo sandwich." The legacy of the Spanish encomienda system, however they call it, can be seen so plainly in many facets of life, but, from the outside especially in who governs. Things have gotten a lot better for the emerging urban middle class in the last decade, frankly, but when you're migrating to Thailand for jobs in engineering, healthcare and so on, things are not good back home.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

I need a cartoon of Judge Dredd Duerte, STAT.

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Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines
I honestly can't believe the same people who shout "NEVER AGAIN" (re: Marcos and martial law) voted in the guy who literally calls himself a dictator and who said his presidency would be bloody and that he'd hold weekly executions and that he'd shut down congress if they tried to impeach him. Even some of my pretty liberal friends have somehow developed this blind spot for the guy, thinking that he's somehow going to solve all our problems with his tough stance on crime.

This goes without saying but I'm 100% certain he isn't going to be able to keep his promise of solving crime within 6 months, short of declaring martial law or basically turning us into a police state.

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