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Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Lightning Lord posted:

Basically this guy is getting into comics and likes Rat Queens a lot so he wants to know more about what other elf and magic comics are on tap. It's basically my favorite genre of comics so I have a lot of what's been suggested already on the list but like I said I just want to see if someone has something I've overlooked.

Aside from that I have put comics that stretch the definition or are more associated with another genre into a sublist just so he doesn't see Dr. Strange and go "Superheroes!?" Science fantasy like Star Wars goes here, etc

Hmm, then the Dungeons and Dragons comic is all I really have to offer.

Zachack posted:

Tarot: Witch of the Black Rose (this may be closer to horror, witches/ghosts/vampires)

Man, that is awful softcore porn, not fantasy or horror.

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Zachack
Jun 1, 2000




Lightning Lord posted:

Basically this guy is getting into comics and likes Rat Queens a lot so he wants to know more about what other elf and magic comics are on tap. It's basically my favorite genre of comics so I have a lot of what's been suggested already on the list but like I said I just want to see if someone has something I've overlooked.

Aside from that I have put comics that stretch the definition or are more associated with another genre into a sublist just so he doesn't see Dr. Strange and go "Superheroes!?" Science fantasy like Star Wars goes here, etc

I didn't care for it but Skullkickers is probably the closest to Rat Queens in tone and setting unless it goes way off the rails after the first volume.

edit: Saga, maybe Low, super-maybe ODY-C.

Zachack fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Feb 11, 2016

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Zachack posted:

Prophet (it's scifi but so removed from reality it's basically space fantasy)
Warlord (old DC comic)
Tarot: Witch of the Black Rose (this may be closer to horror, witches/ghosts/vampires)
Elfquest (I assume)
Manifest Destiny (Lewis & Clark meet horror)
Sixth Gun (western/fantasy)

Don't encourage people to buy Tarot.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Skwirl posted:

Don't encourage people to buy Tarot.

I am Gaz-L and I approve this message.


Lurdiak posted:

Hmm, then the Dungeons and Dragons comic is all I really have to offer.


Man, that is awful softcore porn, not fantasy or horror.

It can be two things!

Also you forgot comedy. (Sometimes even on purpose!)

Zachack
Jun 1, 2000




Skwirl posted:

Don't encourage people to buy Tarot.

Buying Tarot will build immunity in the reader to other comics with big titties on the cover (because it is boring, in spite of nude cartoon boobs) while simultaneously providing income to someone who at least seems to give a poo poo about his bad comic and any readers that unfathomably seem to like it while denying money to Zenoscape, which produces equally (if not far more) boring comics with big titty covers but from what little I've read does not actually have cartoon boobs, thereby cheating the... connoisseur.

Also what if that's what they want?

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Zachack posted:

Buying Tarot will build immunity in the reader to other comics with big titties on the cover (because it is boring, in spite of nude cartoon boobs) while simultaneously providing income to someone who at least seems to give a poo poo about his bad comic and any readers that unfathomably seem to like it while denying money to Zenoscape, which produces equally (if not far more) boring comics with big titty covers but from what little I've read does not actually have cartoon boobs, thereby cheating the... connoisseur.

Also what if that's what they want?

I can't afford to buy every good comic I want, I don't give a gently caress how much the creator cares about a book if the end result is puerile poo poo. And I say this as someone who thinks Frank Cho is a treasure.

Zachack
Jun 1, 2000




Skwirl posted:

I can't afford to buy every good comic I want, I don't give a gently caress how much the creator cares about a book if the end result is puerile poo poo. And I say this as someone who thinks Frank Cho is a treasure.

The only info given was "likes high fantasy & rat queens" and that info showed up some posts later. For all we know Tarot is right up that guy's alley, or the budget is unlimited, or who the gently caress knows. If Tarot isn't what they want then it'll be pretty obvious just from looking at the cover, but if it is what they want then it's a solid (depressing) recommendation because there really aren't a lot of fantasy comics out there and Zenoscape unfortunately has I think more than a few, and those manage to be even worse. Hell, going by what I've read from various bundles a lot of the D&D comics over the years have been worse than Tarot, which, let me reiterate, is a bad comic. I'll even go so far as to say I "enjoyed" the random issues of Tarot I've read more than I "enjoyed" reading Skullkickers because the former at least provided a bit of WTF value vs the latter just being boring.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Zachack posted:

The only info given was "likes high fantasy & rat queens" and that info showed up some posts later. For all we know Tarot is right up that guy's alley, or the budget is unlimited, or who the gently caress knows. If Tarot isn't what they want then it'll be pretty obvious just from looking at the cover, but if it is what they want then it's a solid (depressing) recommendation because there really aren't a lot of fantasy comics out there and Zenoscape unfortunately has I think more than a few, and those manage to be even worse. Hell, going by what I've read from various bundles a lot of the D&D comics over the years have been worse than Tarot, which, let me reiterate, is a bad comic. I'll even go so far as to say I "enjoyed" the random issues of Tarot I've read more than I "enjoyed" reading Skullkickers because the former at least provided a bit of WTF value vs the latter just being boring.

I think it's probably best to limit recommendations in the recommendation thread to books you think are good.

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

Zachack posted:

The only info given was "likes high fantasy & rat queens" and that info showed up some posts later. For all we know Tarot is right up that guy's alley, or the budget is unlimited, or who the gently caress knows. If Tarot isn't what they want then it'll be pretty obvious just from looking at the cover, but if it is what they want then it's a solid (depressing) recommendation because there really aren't a lot of fantasy comics out there and Zenoscape unfortunately has I think more than a few, and those manage to be even worse. Hell, going by what I've read from various bundles a lot of the D&D comics over the years have been worse than Tarot, which, let me reiterate, is a bad comic. I'll even go so far as to say I "enjoyed" the random issues of Tarot I've read more than I "enjoyed" reading Skullkickers because the former at least provided a bit of WTF value vs the latter just being boring.

I can tell you that my friend would actually loving hate Tarot. I think it's kind of insulting yet funny, but not funny enough to pay for it or recommend someone ever look at it.

There are actually a lot more fantasy comics out there then you assume, especially when you account for European comics. I'm not including manga because this guy is pretty into it already and specifically asked me for Western stuff. In fact when I'm done with my list I'll probably post it somewhere on BSS.

Lightning Lord fucked around with this message at 13:14 on Feb 12, 2016

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


The undisputed world champion of wrestling effortposting
My friend who is a Deadpool fan but hasn't had a lot of time to read comics these last several years wants to catch up with what happened with Deadpool in the last several years, as he's more familiar with the 90's and 00's stuff and wants to peruse some more recent stuff before seeing the movie. Any recommendations for books/arcs, both for quality and anything relevant for Deadpool's status quo?

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Cornwind Evil posted:

My friend who is a Deadpool fan but hasn't had a lot of time to read comics these last several years wants to catch up with what happened with Deadpool in the last several years, as he's more familiar with the 90's and 00's stuff and wants to peruse some more recent stuff before seeing the movie. Any recommendations for books/arcs, both for quality and anything relevant for Deadpool's status quo?

Get the dead president trade and go from there.

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

Cornwind Evil posted:

My friend who is a Deadpool fan but hasn't had a lot of time to read comics these last several years wants to catch up with what happened with Deadpool in the last several years, as he's more familiar with the 90's and 00's stuff and wants to peruse some more recent stuff before seeing the movie. Any recommendations for books/arcs, both for quality and anything relevant for Deadpool's status quo?

Avoid anything written by Daniel Way. That's good general advice too.

hadji murad
Apr 18, 2006
The 2012-15 series has a few awesome issues that take place in the 1970s. They are incredibly funny.

Zachack
Jun 1, 2000




As mentioned, the recent run was very good:

http://marvel.com/comics/creators/11801/brian_posehn

Also consider Remender's Uncanny X-Force run:

http://marvel.com/comics/series/9976/uncanny_x-force_2010_-_2012

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Duggan/Posehn run for sure.

numerrik
Jul 15, 2009

Falcon Punch!

Been looking into gods and monsters, by my count there should be 18 issues, but the hc is 144 pages, am I wrong that there are 3 issues for each character and 9 issues of the core story? Are they not all out yet?

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
Wikipedia seems to indicate that you are correct, but is confusing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_League:_Gods_and_Monsters#Comic_book_series

It says there are three one-shots, but lists three issues each.

Looking at what's actually included:
http://comicbookdb.com/issue.php?ID=354418

The three issue runs (and 9 issue main story) were the digital issues. DC makes those about 1/3 the length of a regular comic, so three digital issues equals one floppy issue, which comes out to about 6 issues worth of content (one for each character, 3 for the main story), or around 144 pages (at 24 pages per issue).

Kurzon
May 10, 2013

by Hand Knit
I find superhero comics a bit boring because the villains are too outlandish, too detached from the real world (alien invaders and soul-stealing wizards and such). I'd like to read some superhero books where the hero faces a more realistic villain, one who engages in some form of real-world crime. I've been reading some of the earliest Superman comics and got a kick out of seeing Superman beat up wife-beaters and corrupt politicians. I want more of that.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

You'll love Matt Fraction's Hawkeye.

Genevieve Valentine's Catwoman run (#35-46) shifted the comic to be all about organized crime. That was really good.

Dennis O'Neil's Green Lantern/Green Arrow was very much about street level societal ills kinda stuff.

Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Feb 28, 2016

Kurzon
May 10, 2013

by Hand Knit
What disappoints me is that you rarely see the big guns tackle ordinary criminals. It's always the weaker heroes. Wonder Woman with her Lasso of Truth could in theory unravel every crime syndicate or corrupt organization in America just by forcing its members to spill the beans.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

Kurzon posted:

What disappoints me is that you rarely see the big guns tackle ordinary criminals. It's always the weaker heroes. Wonder Woman with her Lasso of Truth could in theory unravel every crime syndicate or corrupt organization in America just by forcing its members to spill the beans.

I personally don't know of any comics that follow the implications of superpowers like that to the end of their logical conclusions. Does anything like this actually exist? Something like hard science fiction that actually explores the limits of a technology to it's full ability except in comic form?

The Boys was pretty good about exploring what would happen to real people that were granted these powers from a corruption standpoint, albeit in very standard comic book fashion, and authority explored global implications. But I've not seen something that followed the implications of the power itself to it's end, well maybe Watchmen and All-Star Superman.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Washout posted:

I personally don't know of any comics that follow the implications of superpowers like that to the end of their logical conclusions. Does anything like this actually exist? Something like hard science fiction that actually explores the limits of a technology to it's full ability except in comic form?

The Boys was pretty good about exploring what would happen to real people that were granted these powers from a corruption standpoint, albeit in very standard comic book fashion, and authority explored global implications. But I've not seen something that followed the implications of the power itself to it's end, well maybe Watchmen and All-Star Superman.

Rising Stars sort of does

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
Supergod kind of does, though it doesn't really get into the mind of the powered beings, just what they would do.

Powers?

Superman: Secret Identity

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

A Tin Of Beans posted:

What's some top-tier stuff with Big Barda and Mister Miracle? Please don't suggest that one John Byrne story; I have beaten you to the joke already. Note: I haven't really read anything with either character but they sound fun.

There was a short lived Mr.Miracle series in the early 90's written by Keith Giffen I think, and it had a similar spirit to JLI. I think it ran about 30 issues, not collected to my knowledge, but available on eBay. What little I've read is good stuff, it basically features Scott and Barda trying to adjust to domestic earth life.

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Mar 3, 2016

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.
If I'm going to read Excalibur for the first time, is it worth reading the Davis/Delano Captain Britain series first?

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

El Gallinero Gros posted:

There was a short lived Mr.Miracle series in the early 90's written by Keith Giffen I think, and it had a similar spirit to JLI. I think it ran about 30 issues, not collected to my knowledge, but available on eBay. What little I've read is good stuff, it basically features Scott and Barda trying to adjust to domestic earth life.

28 issues, and it was very much a companion piece to JLI. Fun book I collected back in late elementary and middle school, although I don't have them anymore.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Barda and Scott guested in an arc of the pre-Nu52 Booster Gold in the latter half of that book's run. It involved time travel and Barda wrasslin' a dragon.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Brocktoon posted:

If I'm going to read Excalibur for the first time, is it worth reading the Davis/Delano Captain Britain series first?

It's not essential to Excalibur, but Alan Moore / Alan Davis / Jamie Delano Captain Britain is very good in its own right.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
How's the new Lucifer book?

Zachack
Jun 1, 2000




If I thought Batman: odyssey was bad, like real bad, not fun hate read, not insightful, bad eyeflow, kinda boring, only popular for someone else describing how "wacky" it was and I don't think they even finished it or tried a final summary-

Is the Neal Adams Batman omni that just came out worth reading?

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Zachack posted:

If I thought Batman: odyssey was bad, like real bad, not fun hate read, not insightful, bad eyeflow, kinda boring, only popular for someone else describing how "wacky" it was and I don't think they even finished it or tried a final summary-

Is the Neal Adams Batman omni that just came out worth reading?

Its mostly his art so writing so his writing is not the issue. However, I am pretty sure they use the "new" versions of the comics and the coloring is dogshit. He introduced the Ghuls, manbat, and has shitton of great stories.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Zachack posted:

only popular for someone else describing how "wacky" it was

Is it? I thought it was only popular because of how famously dogshit it was.

Ror
Oct 21, 2010

😸Everything's 🗞️ purrfect!💯🤟


Request from a friend of mine who teaches middle school ESL: does anyone know of any relatively kid friendly dystopian/utopian society comics? Nothing's really jumping out at me but I feel like I'm forgetting something obvious.

redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

BEHOLD!
OPTIC BLAST!
Grimey Drawer

Ror posted:

Request from a friend of mine who teaches middle school ESL: does anyone know of any relatively kid friendly dystopian/utopian society comics? Nothing's really jumping out at me but I feel like I'm forgetting something obvious.

Battling Boy?

Alris
Apr 20, 2007

Welcome to the Fantasy Zone!

Get ready!

El Gallinero Gros posted:

How's the new Lucifer book?

There's a new Lucifer book?

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Alris posted:

There's a new Lucifer book?

https://www.comixology.com/Lucifer-2015/comics-series/58689?ref=Y29taWMvdmlldy9kZXNrdG9wL2JyZWFkY3J1bWJz

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Based on the description I'm guessing it's not a continuation of the Mike Carey series.

B33rChiller
Aug 18, 2011




I've recently started falling down this comic book rabbit hole, and I'm enjoying it so far. Taking the recommendation from earlier in the thread, I picked up the Hickman run of Fantastic Four. I'm thoroughly impressed. I've never read F4 before, but have been aware of them. I didn't realise before reading this series that the Richards had children. Looking on wikipedia, it seems Valeria has a seriously complicated (and confusing) back story. Can you guys recommend what books I should read about where she came from? And maybe to fill me in on why she calls Dr. Doom "Uncle Doom"?

On related grounds, any recommendations for Galactus? I picked up the Infinity Gauntlet bundle on comixology, as well as the aforementioned run of F4, and really enjoy any time he makes an appearance.

It would be helpful if the recommended books were available on comixology.

Thank in advance.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Doom helped deliver Valeria the time that it worked, and named her (after the love of his life). He's her godfather, so to her she's family.

I don't recommend trying to read all the nonsense that led to her unrebirth.

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Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

B33rChiller posted:

I've recently started falling down this comic book rabbit hole, and I'm enjoying it so far. Taking the recommendation from earlier in the thread, I picked up the Hickman run of Fantastic Four. I'm thoroughly impressed. I've never read F4 before, but have been aware of them. I didn't realise before reading this series that the Richards had children. Looking on wikipedia, it seems Valeria has a seriously complicated (and confusing) back story. Can you guys recommend what books I should read about where she came from? And maybe to fill me in on why she calls Dr. Doom "Uncle Doom"?

On related grounds, any recommendations for Galactus? I picked up the Infinity Gauntlet bundle on comixology, as well as the aforementioned run of F4, and really enjoy any time he makes an appearance.

It would be helpful if the recommended books were available on comixology.

Thank in advance.

Fantastic Four 48 and 49 features Galactus' first appearance. Silver Surfer: Parable is a great retelling of Galactus' first appearance on an earth without any superheroes. I imagine both are on comixology.

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