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Majorian: Jul 1, 2009; Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

Prorat posted:

I can't find the exact article but here is something similar http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2015/12/02/harvard-princeton-abolish-master/

You really didn't read your own article, did you?

quote:

On Tuesday, Harvard College Dean Rakesh Khurana sent an email to all Harvard students announcing that undergraduate residential �house masters,� with the support of Harvard President Drew Faust and Faculty of Arts and Sciences Dean Michael D. Smith, had unanimously expressed a desire to change their title. As such, Harvard College will soon launch a process that culminates with a suggested replacement title, to be announced at some point early next year. The Harvard announcement comes less than two weeks after Princeton University announced it would immediately change the title of �master of the residential college� to �head of college� amid discussions about racism and discrimination on college campuses nationwide, including a call by student activists to remove the name of former U.S. President Woodrow Wilson from campus buildings and the School of Public and International Affairs.

Prorat posted:

That's just one of the many things they are doing and its loving stupid. That's literally one of thousands of examples of how stupid PCness is.

In other words, you're mad that people are doing things that don't impact you and that aren't really objectionable.

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Baku: Aug 20, 2005; by Fluffdaddy

Totalizator posted:

Their embarrassingly sanctimonious posts on the internet making mountains out of molehills are driving me to drink.

have you considered seeing a professional about your mental problems instead of self-medicating?

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Lemming: Apr 21, 2008

They're going to change the name of a degree! Oh my god, how am I going to feed my kids?! How will I pay for my medication?! gently caress, what am I going to do...

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Prorat: Aug 3, 2004; by FactsAreUseless

Phi230 posted:

Except thats loving untrue. Nobody is changing "masters degree." Only the title master.

Yes its absolutely people like you trying to make it seem like its not about saying racist things. But it is, being anti-PC is being pro-bigot, pro-douchebag no matter how hard you try to spin it.

You're an rear end in a top hat whose complaining he can't say whatever he wants without being called an rear end in a top hat.

None of this is true.

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Prorat: Aug 3, 2004; by FactsAreUseless

Majorian posted:

You really didn't read your own article, did you?

In other words, you're mad that people are doing things that don't impact you and that aren't really objectionable.

You didn't read my post did you?

"Something similar"

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Totalizator: Nov 9, 2006; Can't post for 3 years!

Majorian posted:

You're perfectly free to do that, I'm perfectly free to think you're a bigot or an idiot or whatever, etc. That's the beauty of America and freedom.

Let the eeeeeeagle sooooooar...

See, there is a large contingent of people on the internet who would want to see me unemployed and/or dead for my views. These people are the problem.

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Majorian: Jul 1, 2009; Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

Prorat posted:

None of this is true.

Yeah it is - no one's changing "master's degree."

Totalizator posted:

See, there is a large contingent of people on the internet who would want to see me unemployed and/or dead for my views. These people are the problem.

Those people are awful people that you shouldn't associate with, but they're also not a large contingent.

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Venom Snake: Feb 19, 2014; by Nyc_Tattoo

You are not a leftist if you support diminishing the concerns of minorities in order to purse more leftist economic policy.

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Baloogan: Dec 5, 2004; Fun Shoe

wow so the unemployed tards are at it again now that the dem thread will not have them

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Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

These are not words about the republican primary. :mad:

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Venom Snake: Feb 19, 2014; by Nyc_Tattoo

Totalizator posted:

See, there is a large contingent of people who would want to see me unemployed and/or dead for my views. These people are the problem.

Welcome to the entirety of human existence.

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Prorat: Aug 3, 2004; by FactsAreUseless

Majorian posted:

Yeah it is - no one's changing "master's degree."

I wasn't responded to that, reading comprehension mofo, do you speak it.

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KaptainKrunk: Feb 6, 2006

Venom Snake posted:

No, but the majority of the oppressed working class is minorities who care about more things than finance law because prosecuting a banker does jack poo poo for them when a cop will shoot them for raising their hands or an insane orange fascist puts them on a cattle car to mexico.

Those things are more visceral, but pretty low risk.

Obviously the pervasive sense of being preyed upon by the people meant to protect you is really really bad, but that is a symptom of a greater underlying problem. The effect of cop shootings pales in comparison to capital flight, outsourcing, and the demise of labor unions, which have left communities a shell of their former selves.

Also, all but the most privileged white collar workers (a tiny minority of workers) are oppressed. You can't just ignore the concerns of the white working class and expect to make progress.

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DAD LOST MY IPOD: Feb 3, 2012; Fats Dominar is on the case

Venom Snake posted:

You are not a leftist if you support diminishing the concerns of minorities in order to purse more leftist economic policy.

you are not a leftist if you are willing to support neoliberals because they say the right things about identity politics

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Majorian: Jul 1, 2009; Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

Baloogan posted:

wow so the unemployed tards are at it again now that the dem thread will not have them

Who's unemployed here?

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

you are not a leftist if you are willing to support neoliberals because they say the right things about identity politics

Who's doing that, though? I don't think anyone here is supporting Clinton because she says the right thing about identity politics.

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InsanityIsCrazy: Jan 25, 2003; by Lowtax

Louisgod posted:

That's an E/N poster

theres a difference?

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Venom Snake: Feb 19, 2014; by Nyc_Tattoo

Schnorkles posted:

These are not words about the republican primary.

When the front runner is a loud unabashed racist who lusts for Berlin Wall XXXXL 2.0 and Trail of Tears 2: Cry harder you should expect conversations like this to happen.

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Totalizator: Nov 9, 2006; Can't post for 3 years!

Venom Snake posted:

You are not a leftist if you support diminishing the concerns of minorities in order to purse more leftist economic policy.

Concerns of minorities aren't inherently more important then everyone else's. Your life isn't worth more because your skin is not white.

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Baloogan: Dec 5, 2004; Fun Shoe

Can you guys go make a new thread about this?

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Baloogan: Dec 5, 2004; Fun Shoe

No republican gives a poo poo about this sort of TRIPE

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Prorat: Aug 3, 2004; by FactsAreUseless

Trump

Majorian posted:

Who's unemployed here?

You after Trump becomes president.

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Majorian: Jul 1, 2009; Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

Totalizator posted:

Concerns of minorities aren't inherently more important then everyone else's. Your life isn't worth more because your skin is not white.

Literally nobody here is arguing this. Nobody here wants black people or whoever to benefit more than white people.

Baloogan posted:

Can you guys go make a new thread about this?

Probably a good idea.

Prorat posted:

You after Trump becomes president.

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DAD LOST MY IPOD: Feb 3, 2012; Fats Dominar is on the case

the conditions of oppression are material, any leftism that is not rooted in materialism is not leftism at all

via fdb:

quote:

What socialists tend to say � or at least, what I say � is not that racism is only classism or just a consequence of classism or whatever. I don�t think that and have never said, suggested, implied, hinted, or signaled that. Rather, I think that the means with which racism is most often and most powerfully enacted in real life, the material dimension of racism, is typically economic in nature, and that the best way to reduce real-world inequality and injustice is likely through economic means. These are not at all the only ways in which racism manifests itself, nor are economic solutions the only solutions. Criminal justice reform, for example, is a massively important aspect of reducing racial inequality. But closing the black-white income gap and the black-white wealth gap, as well as more fundamental transformations of the contemporary class hierarchy, are indispensable aspects of the larger project of combating racism. In our current system, money brings with it power, and the ultimate purpose of our efforts against racism are not to meet some vague standard of �racial harmony� but rather the empowerment of people of color so that they can ensure their own best interests for themselves.

The emotional and affective dimensions of racism are of course very important, and we all have a responsibility to treat members of all races with dignity, respect, and equality. But politics are about policy, about the material dimensions of society, and there is no way in which policy can ensure that everyone act with personal and social fairness towards people of color. Indeed: my argument has long been that the anti-racist project has suffered because following the initial successes of the Civil Rights movement, our conception of fighting racism switched from enacting laws and enforcing material equality, such as with the Voting Rights act or the Fair Housing Act, to a vague idea that we should all hold hands across racial lines. In other words, racism switched from being popularly conceived of as a problem of the material world to being a problem of mind, and the fight against racism stopped being waged in material terms and instead became about people feeling and thinking the right things. My read of history is that this change, which not coincidentally came along with the Reaganite-Clintonite conservative turn in American politics, has completely stalled the insufficient-but-real gains made during the preceding decades, and that we have in fact seen a very real backsliding

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Shark Sandwich: Sep 6, 2010; by R. Guyovich

jfc don't we have the bernout and dem threads to quarantine this circular firing squad poo poo?

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Baloogan: Dec 5, 2004; Fun Shoe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XISxIKwnQk

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Baku: Aug 20, 2005; by Fluffdaddy

KaptainKrunk posted:

You can't just ignore the concerns of the white working class and expect to make progress.

the thing is that if you go the other way and ignore concerns of identity politics, i.e. the thing sanders was accused (somewhat falsely) of doing, you end up believing in "rising tide lifts all boats" philosophy that just isn't true because people are biased and institutional power in the us isn't equally held

whatever economic doctrine you believe in - full communism now, taxation is theft, whatever - can't put an end to racism by itself and in fact prolly has no influence on it whatsoever

and it's easier to say "well the economic part is obviously way more important" when you're a spooky white male

that's really all ppl are saying no matter how dumb they get

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Baloogan: Dec 5, 2004; Fun Shoe

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Korelle: Sep 18, 2010

Venom Snake posted:

When the front runner is a loud unabashed racist who lusts for Berlin Wall XXXXL 2.0 and Trail of Tears 2: Cry harder you should expect conversations like this to happen.

Please go poo poo up the Democrat or Bernie threads with this sort of hand-wringing, thanks.

Don't ruin our perfectly enjoyable play-by-play discussion of Donald J. Trump's luxurious march to Washington.

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Lumpy the Cook: Feb 4, 2011; Drippy-goo-yay, mother-gunker!

Venom Snake posted:

You are not a leftist if you support diminishing the concerns of minorities in order to purse more leftist economic policy.

If you believe identity politics are of bigger concern to minority groups than wealth disparity, you have been tricked.

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Totalizator: Nov 9, 2006; Can't post for 3 years!

Majorian posted:

Literally nobody here is arguing this. Nobody here wants black people or whoever to benefit more than white people.

Trump is popular because the left wing treats poor whites like trash. We have a poster popping up here every once in a while to say white people shouldn't vote, and a dozen others rolling their eyes about how white republicans are. Maybe they're just voting for their own self interest against a party that hates them?

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Josh Lyman: May 24, 2009

Some moron woman form the WSJ editorial board went on Morning Joe today and, talking about Cruz's flat tax plan, said "It's not extreme, it's only extreme to you Democrats. The American people want it, it's the fairest tax."

:fuckoff:

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Majorian: Jul 1, 2009; Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

Totalizator posted:

Trump is popular because the left wing treats poor whites like trash.

That's such horseshit and you know it. People being mean to poor whites on the internet will have almost no effect upon how most people vote.

Josh Lyman posted:

Some moron woman form the WSJ editorial board went on Morning Joe today and, talking about Cruz's flat tax plan, said "It's not extreme, it's only extreme to you Democrats. The American people want it, it's the fairest tax."

What a dumb-dumb. Cruz's plan raises taxes on the poor.

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Prorat: Aug 3, 2004; by FactsAreUseless

Quick someone post that video of that singer yelling trump in pants so tight you can see his dick

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Laphroaig: Feb 6, 2004; Drinking Smoke; Dinosaur Gum

Mister Fister posted:

http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/04/glenn-beck-if-i-got-close-enough-to-trump-the-stabbing-just-wouldnt-stop-audio/

lmbo

Trump skipped CPAC b/c Glenn was going go all "SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS!" on him, makes sense, checks out.

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KaptainKrunk: Feb 6, 2006

Zombies' Downfall posted:

the thing is that if you go the other way and ignore concerns of identity politics, i.e. the thing sanders was accused (somewhat falsely) of doing, you end up believing in "rising tide lifts all boats" philosophy that just isn't true because people are biased and institutional power in the us isn't equally held

whatever economic doctrine you believe in - full communism now, taxation is theft, whatever - can't put an end to racism by itself and in fact prolly has no influence on it whatsoever

and it's easier to say "well the economic part is obviously way more important" when you're a spooky white male

that's really all ppl are saying no matter how dumb they get

It can't put an end to racism itself but neoliberalism has surely made things worse.

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paranoid randroid: Mar 4, 2007

Josh Lyman posted:

Some moron woman form the WSJ editorial board went on Morning Joe today and, talking about Cruz's flat tax plan, said "It's not extreme, it's only extreme to you Democrats. The American people want it, it's the fairest tax."

i like how everyones just starting to talk like Trump now. win, lose, or draw hes definitely succeeded in permanently lodging himself in the zeitgeist.

which, i mean lets be honest here, was probably his goal all along. the yugest, most memetic legacy

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CheesyDog: Jul 4, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Whiter than a tonsil stone perched on an upper lip

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Shark Sandwich: Sep 6, 2010; by R. Guyovich

Laphroaig posted:

Trump skipped CPAC b/c Glenn was going go all "SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS!" on him, makes sense, checks out.

maybe if glenn beck saw an actual doctor instead of a chiropractor he would've gotten lithium for his bipolar disorder

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