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TotalLossBrain posted:They should be under fume hoods for soldering. Lady in the green shirt is terribly under-dressed for the job. i used to hotbox a room wih a couple guys soldering for hours on end with no ventilation and a broken ac in a tiny room th e middle of a kids ride called boo blasters listening to the spooky music and screams of kids through the wall. i would emerge from it and a crowd of 100 ppl and kkids would stare at me stumble across the 600v tracks with my tool kit and wink at wendy at the exit. i wouldnt wink if it was anyone else the rest werent sexy. what i think imm saying is the danger of solder is overrated. now that i think about it i havent shot ropes as strong since befor i worked there. wtf ghosTTy fucked around with this message at 08:42 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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I just got into soldering actually, hobby stuff, but I like what I'm hearing
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I used to develop safety and training packages for the mining industry. Over the 5-7 years I did it, holy cow did i get a lot of people caught out for OSHA bullshit. Now my task was to make sure whatever was filmed/photographed was in line with safety practices as the footage was usually sent up to corporate then out to advertising agencies - no one would want a dangerous task in the background making it to TV. There's waaaay to many instances to post here, but my favorite was a truck driver. The State safety manager for the mining company, my crew and I were arriving at an area that required a separate sign on due to construction in the area. Now there are a number of forms you need to read to know where it's safe to drive LVs, where and when cranes are lifting and numerous other dangers. This takes roughly 10 minutes to read through, assess the risks and sign off on it. As we were reading that documentation, a truck driver slammed past us, quickly signed his name on the board, then proceeded to sit on the back of his fuel truck and light a cigarette.... The retaliation was swift. The driver was fired, the contracting company was taken off the construction (brand new mine - so big bucks for a fuel company). The next day a crane company was also marched offsite for lifting loads over people working on a workshop roof.
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Mar 8, 2016 10:19
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Not strictly OSHA because this is in a residential building and not in the US, but I present to you: It's a notice of a fire code violation due to flammable material that could obstruct the emergency exit 
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Mar 8, 2016 10:22
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Fellis posted:what was this? it got removed http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e83_1457323305 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgg89krSbTo and another incase the previous two go missing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgSzd1H545w
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My father works in a mine and got a $600 fine from MSHAW last week because the lid on his trashcan was askew.
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e83_1457323305 Thanks, buddy Thuddy
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mds2 posted:My father works in a mine and got a $600 fine from MSHAW last week because the lid on his trashcan was askew. He probably failed to mention the trashcan was full of oily rags over an open pit 100ft deep, with men working below.
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Mar 8, 2016 17:25
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mds2 posted:My father works in a mine and got a $600 fine from MSHAW last week because the lid on his trashcan was askew. Haha people are always exaggerating with this stuff! How that even be a quote:§ 56.20013 Waste receptacles. huh
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mostlygray posted:This is very true. The first time I drove a forklift, I got my rear end handed to me when I had the forks too high. Staplerfahrer Klaus is probably the best training video of all time. 
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We've been known to show this in our forklift class at work.
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chitoryu12 posted:We've been known to show this in our forklift class at work. Ok class, I'd like you all to watch this gif and tell me what klaus did wrong
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ghostter posted:i used to hotbox a room wih a couple guys soldering for hours on end with no ventilation and a broken ac in a tiny room th e middle of a kids ride called boo blasters listening to the spooky music and screams of kids through the wall. i would emerge from it and a crowd of 100 ppl and kkids would stare at me stumble across the 600v tracks with my tool kit and wink at wendy at the exit. i wouldnt wink if it was anyone else the rest werent sexy. I wasn't commenting on the goodness of requiring fume hoods for soldering, only that it is indeed required. I used to teach Electrical Engineering classes at a local state university campus. We have had to eliminate all soldering from classes/labs because getting fume hoods was impractical/too expensive.
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Mar 8, 2016 20:23
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Ok class, I'd like you all to watch this gif and tell me what klaus did wrong Oh no, they watch the whole video.
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BlueBlazer posted:He probably failed to mention the trashcan was full of oily rags over an open pit 100ft deep, with men working below. Wastepaper basket in the shop office. no poo poo.
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Mar 8, 2016 20:57
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TotalLossBrain posted:I wasn't commenting on the goodness of requiring fume hoods for soldering, only that it is indeed required. I can't find anything supporting this as a requirement. There are requirements for maximum allowable concentrations of things like lead, toxic fumes, etc., and you might need to have a fume hood or other ventilation to keep the concentrations below that limit, but I don't believe fume hoods are a requirement. I mean, I used to solder outdoors all the time, a fume hood requirement would have been impossible to meet.
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Phanatic posted:I can't find anything supporting this as a requirement. There are requirements for maximum allowable concentrations of things like lead, toxic fumes, etc., and you might need to have a fume hood or other ventilation to keep the concentrations below that limit, but I don't believe fume hoods are a requirement. Now that you mention it, I don't know if it is an OSHA requirement. Every place I've worked for in the past ten years made it mandatory to have some active ventilation directly at the soldering station. Those employers have been private industry, a state school, and a government contractor-ran National Laboratory. At the state school, I saw the transition from "safety googles only" to "we don't have fume hoods, no more soldering" happen around 2010.
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mds2 posted:Wastepaper basket in the shop office. no poo poo. In a mine. Yeah, that's ridiculous, paper isn't flammable at all.
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My Q-Face posted:In a mine. Yeah, that's ridiculous, paper isn't flammable at all. The shop office is not inside of the mine. Think of it like a building, freestanding outside. Point being, MSHAW will fine the gently caress out of you for piddly poo poo. Though, im curious how many times youve been in a limestone mine. It isn't like there are huge open flames everywhere. rofl. mds2 fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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Mar 8, 2016 21:34
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TotalLossBrain posted:Now that you mention it, I don't know if it is an OSHA requirement. Every place I've worked for in the past ten years made it mandatory to have some active ventilation directly at the soldering station. Those employers have been private industry, a state school, and a government contractor-ran National Laboratory. Really? Wow. 10 years ago I (and a class of 20 others) did soldering in high school in a normal sized classroom with no ventilation beyond the school AC. Every other day for a month class would start, kids grabbed their irons and solder (but no goggles) and spend almost an hour nonstop soldering. Maybe lead free solder doesn't have a ventilation requirement?
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Myriarch posted:Really? Wow. 10 years ago I (and a class of 20 others) did soldering in high school in a normal sized classroom with no ventilation beyond the school AC. Every other day for a month class would start, kids grabbed their irons and solder (but no goggles) and spend almost an hour nonstop soldering. Maybe lead free solder doesn't have a ventilation requirement? AFAIK it's the flux that's bad for you.
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Slanderer posted:Haha people are always exaggerating with this stuff! How that even be a Sounds like you'd have to be some kinda moron to get that wrong
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mds2 posted:The shop office is not inside of the mine. Think of it like a building, freestanding outside. Point being, MSHAW will fine the gently caress out of you for piddly poo poo. Also never let an inspector tour a plant by himself, always gotta have someone glad handing the whole way.. Gotta stroke his ego, make sure his coffee is dosed, you know, the normal stuff. If the plant can't afford to take a guy off the line to walk the inspector that comes around a few times a year maybe they don't have the care to actually keep their men safe? Probably left him in the break room scrambling to fix other stuff. Also maybe the inspector is just a dick and looking to revenue generate. I dunno, wasnt there. Also PCP makes you invincible. http://www.tb3.com/tesla/sparky.htm
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Myriarch posted:Really? Wow. 10 years ago I (and a class of 20 others) did soldering in high school in a normal sized classroom with no ventilation beyond the school AC. Every other day for a month class would start, kids grabbed their irons and solder (but no goggles) and spend almost an hour nonstop soldering. Maybe lead free solder doesn't have a ventilation requirement? At university ten years ago, we didn't have vent hoods or goggles. Just us and the irons. Been doing copper pipe soldering (with a torch) off and on for the last year. I wear my goggles if other people are doing it above me, but if it's just me then gently caress no.
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BlueBlazer posted:Also never let an inspector tour a plant by himself, always gotta have someone glad handing the whole way.. Gotta stroke his ego, make sure his coffee is dosed, you know, the normal stuff. If the plant can't afford to take a guy off the line to walk the inspector that comes around a few times a year maybe they don't have the care to actually keep their men safe? Probably left him in the break room scrambling to fix other stuff. Oh goodie! We had energy and mines inspectors today at one of our company sites. They are currently seizing documents illegally. Why illegally? They can arrive unannounced and be on site for 15 minutes before being asked to leave. After that they need to make an appointment. So they just ignored the request to leave. Tomorrow I will have some information about the fallout of a) why they are seizing documents, b) without a warrant c) why no staff stopped them and d) the result of the police call about illegal trespass, theft etc. Lucky for me I have nothing to do with that part of the company!
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Humphreys posted:Oh goodie! We had energy and mines inspectors today at one of our company sites. They are currently seizing documents illegally. Why illegally? They can arrive unannounced and be on site for 15 minutes before being asked to leave. After that they need to make an appointment. So they just ignored the request to leave. It's not illegal if it's part of a permit or license to operate. Part of being an employer. Something along the lines of "if you employ dudes then you're subject to OSHA, msha, etc."
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e83_1457323305 Lol thats pretty good Also the soldering stuff, drat no idea you had to do all wear all that stuff now? Like the guy above we used to solder in class with no safety gear, I've even had to crack out our one at work on occasion.
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DemeaninDemon posted:It's not illegal if it's part of a permit or license to operate. Part of being an employer. I can't argue with or against you on that - been a while since I was up on it, just taking managers word for it. Either way its OSHA scootenfruity. The bosses thinking they are safe and can order inspectors away after 15 minutes (and use that as their way of covering poo poo up) or it's even better the other way.
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Humphreys posted:I can't argue with or against you on that - been a while since I was up on it, just taking managers word for it. Either way its OSHA scootenfruity. The bosses thinking they are safe and can order inspectors away after 15 minutes (and use that as their way of covering poo poo up) or it's even better the other way. Your managers seem like the "ARE FREEDUM" types. They are wrong. Laws set up to protect workers from that kind of crap. Bonus points since OSHA rarely comes unless someone dies, complains, or a bunch of dudes hurt themselves badly. They'll check up on previous violators too if they don't play along.
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I guess it's stupid to solder indoors with no ventilation but I don't think I'd ever want a freaking fume hood. Open a window or door or something and blow a desk fan towards it.
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DemeaninDemon posted:Your managers seem like the "ARE FREEDUM" types. They are wrong. Laws set up to protect workers from that kind of crap. Bonus points since OSHA rarely comes unless someone dies, complains, or a bunch of dudes hurt themselves badly. They'll check up on previous violators too if they don't play along. 
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Larry Parrish posted:I guess it's stupid to solder indoors with no ventilation but I don't think I'd ever want a freaking fume hood. Open a window or door or something and blow a desk fan towards it. Suck, don't blow
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They said reporter narrowly avoids getting out of the way. They didn't say anything about "cameraman gets hit by car!" Welcome to LA!
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My Q-Face posted:They said reporter narrowly avoids getting out of the way. They didn't say anything about "cameraman gets hit by car!" Welcome to LA!
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My Q-Face posted:They said reporter narrowly avoids getting out of the way. They didn't say anything about "cameraman gets hit by car!" Welcome to LA! The tripod gets hit, not necessarily the cameraman. It’s a perfectly steady shot, and then after the hit the camera rocks back and bounces a little. Tripod.
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This looks very safe to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF0eU-iL8cU
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nerdz posted:This looks very safe to me. I can't get over his complete and total calm during the entire thing.
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