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Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


SomethingJones posted:

From 10 for the Chairman: Episode 77
Feb 29, 2016 @ 29:00


Q: What is the end vision for planetary ship entry? I would love to see a requirement for a crew to analyse various aspects such as atmospheric pressure, composition etc, that facilitates an active participation from the crew to determine the best mode of entry.

A: Well we haven't actually... fleshed this out, we do have plans for... sort of... atmospheric, ah... entry and atmospheric flight, I mean, you know, we all kinda wanna do... if you've seen PROMETHEUS, the sort of...PROMETHEUS entry down onto the planet, if you go back to ALIENS they... had a very cool...you know, I mean... it's... much... the effects aren't nearly as nice as the ones in PROMETHEUS but you know... going through the... the STORM and the, you know... the... the CLOUDS and the TURBULENCE, ah... so we definitely want that, well like, depending on the kind of PLANET, ah, you know potentially a planet that you could go down and find minerals and strip and ah, you know, ah... GATHER RESOURCES that you could sell for a lot of money... it should perhaps be quite DANGEROUS to get down there and maybe you have to figure out how to get... down there... without, you know, getting caught up in, you know... HUGE STORMS... all the rest of the stuff...

I realize Chris Roberts is what happens when you give a person who makes naruto mods in Fallout millions of dollars. Every single thought he has is derivative of some other popular media.

There isn't "Planetary landings are still dangerous in our universe because of X" it's just "Like in Prometheus!"

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Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





darkarchon posted:

StarCitizen - when it's all said and done it'll be actually all pretty drat cool.


PS who I gotta blow for an avatar? Anything goes.

When your shitposting is good enough, then you shall have a thousand avatars showered down on you.


Nah, usually it's random at best. Someone will like something (or things) you post and get you one. Sometimes they don't even ask which one you want, like what I did to Dusty Lens.

Thirsty Dog
May 31, 2007

orcinus posted:

Someone hide this fromshow this to Croberts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7ANl6qHmgE

How does a guy with that voice get a job as a youtuber

LuiCypher
Apr 24, 2010

Today I'm... amped up!

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

how many wank pods will the Idris have

Whatever its complement of Fora System Pleasure Bots are.

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/6435273/#Comment_6435273


https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/6438923/#Comment_6438923

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





One $40,000 space ship, please!

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

I could die with no regrets if I got to give Peter a massive wedgie first.

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/317207/idris-will-not-be-pushed-out-in-any-form-until-sq42-matt-sherman/p1







MedicineHut
Feb 25, 2016

SomethingJones posted:

From 10 for the Chairman: Episode 77
Feb 29, 2016 @ 29:00

... so we definitely want that...

Koil
Jun 24, 2005

two weeks
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/49o8jg/bensday_with_batgirl_ben_episode_45/d0uua2r
Leave the community manager Ben alone, it is just his way of having a conversation.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012



Aww how cute. They actually believe them when they say they're not releasing something because it'd be a spoiler.

1500
Nov 3, 2015

Give me all your crackers

orcinus posted:

Someone hide this fromshow this to Croberts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7ANl6qHmgE

Now that's impressive.

Beexoffel
Oct 4, 2015

Herald of the Stimpire

G0RF posted:

"THE STORY MUST BE TOLD, BUT THE STORY CAN'T BE TOLD"

(Posting from 130 pages ago.)

I want to thank Gorf for another great historical perspective!
And would like to add that Gorf was my favourite game on the VIC20.

Madcosby
Mar 4, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
"this isnt even a call we have to make months from now"

translation: idris update months from now

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

1500 posted:

Now that's impressive.

How did they get animations that good without 1763019263789163 mocap studios?

Madcosby
Mar 4, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
what the hell, do the people who are working on planetary landings, or drink mixing games, or ships enjoy having their work teased for a week and then never revealed again?

darkarchon
Feb 2, 2016

My name is a trolling word

1500 posted:

Now that's impressive.

Yeah no sorry you don't understand jackshit about game development. Please leave this thread now.

SomethingJones
Mar 6, 2016

<3
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/49o8jg/bensday_with_batgirl_ben_episode_45/d0uq4pu

Ming is gladdened.

1500
Nov 3, 2015

Give me all your crackers

Wafflz posted:

How did they get animations that good without 1763019263789163 mocap studios?

Well you have to realize that SC's animations are so good they are just perceived as bad.

orcinus
Feb 25, 2016

Fun Shoe

MeLKoR posted:

This has a very Stalker feel to it.

Some of the devs working on it worked on STALKER, AFAIK.

orcinus
Feb 25, 2016

Fun Shoe

Thirsty Dog posted:

How does a guy with that voice get a job as a youtuber

He's got a speech impediment IIRC.
Kinda annoying at first, but you get used to it.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

1500 posted:

Well you have to realize that SC's animations are so good they are just perceived as bad.

Heavy.

SomethingJones
Mar 6, 2016

<3
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/49o8jg/bensday_with_batgirl_ben_episode_45/d0uvbam

Ming approves.

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

Beexoffel posted:

(Posting from 130 pages ago.)

I want to thank Gorf for another great historical perspective!
And would like to add that Gorf was my favourite game on the VIC20.
Thank you, Beexoffel-

I enjoyed writing it. I'm working up an expanded version because the parallels continue to amaze me and frankly, the Ion Storm story is just an especially colorful bit of gaming history. It's known more now in broad strokes, but it deserves better than that. It's too good a story and the CIG parallels are too rich.

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

Madcosby posted:

I dont get it.

The video says "pre-alpha footage" but no one is clipping through the floor and none of the bodies are twisting around and the graphics stand still when they're supposed to

do these people know anything about game development

This isn't a true alpha, this game has been in development for 8 years.

1500
Nov 3, 2015

Give me all your crackers


Ah the good old days.

When the actual coder tell you its poo poo and you don't believe them, then CR states that its not poo poo and everyone agrees.
https://forums.robertsspaceindustri...dev-feedback/p1

quote:

Hello all,
although this may seem one of the usual "flight model is bad" threads, I would like to explain why, in my opinion, the flight model is GREAT, but does not meet the expectations of many.
Most joystick users complain about lag input and overcorrection.
That is true, both exist.
Why?
Because CIG implemented perfectly the thruster system, and how it is handled by the IFCS
There is lag because the maneuvering thrusters, being gimbaled, have to turn to the appropriate direction, and need a little time to pass from zero to full thrust.
There is overcorrection because the pilot, feeling the delay, pushes harder, requiring even more power from the thrusters - and this extra power then means that when the input is ended, the ship still moves as thrusters need to spool down. Basically, we have a case of pilot induced oscillation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot-induced_oscillation

This is not so much a problem with a mouse, since there you are telling the IFCS where you want to go, and the IFCS calculates the correct vectoring of thrust to orient your ship. Basically, your are telling the computer "point my nose towards that asteroid"
With a joystick on the other hand, your are not telling the IFCS where you want to go; you are providing him inputs of pitch,yaw,roll. YOU, the pilot, is the one that must calibrate his input to make sure he stops turning when his nose is pointed at the asteroid.
And this requires getting used to.
I do feel that the maneuvering thrusters need a shorter reaction time, as currently it makes precise maneuvers very difficult. But this is, I believe, something that can be fine-tuned easily by CIG. Increase thruster gimbal rate and shorten time needed to go from zero to full thrust, and you improve overall handling of the ship.
Therefore in my opinion the flight model is not "bad", but perhaps too realistic, and actually easier to use with a mouse, than a joystick, at least for part of the population

TL:DR
i do not perceive the flight model to be bad, but it needs tuning to increase ships response, especially for joysticks.
Update: multiple posts from the Dev working on the flight model clarify that CIG is actively working on this, and there is ample flexibility in the system. The current release is missing several features, and rough. Feedback from the players is VERY important

EDIT: this post from Chris explains his views on IFCS
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/1667470/#Comment_1667470

EDIT 2: response from a Developer on the flight model, MUST READ: https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/2722695/#Comment_2722695
Further cpmment and explanation for Zyrain aimed at current concerns and issues: https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/2731231/#Comment_2731231

EDIT 3: added further links to posts from Zyrain, that appear in other threads but are relevant to this topic
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/2714175/#Comment_2714175
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/2721296/#Comment_2721296

Edit:
CR actually talked about this thread on a Gamespot interview explaining how he was changing gaming. Its the same interview that CR blamed the backers for the state of AC's release.

1500 fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Mar 10, 2016

SomethingJones
Mar 6, 2016

<3

Madcosby posted:

what the hell, do the people who are working on planetary landings, or drink mixing games, or ships enjoy having their work teased for a week and then never revealed again?

What's the drink mixing game? And before you answer that let me just strap myself into my chair here

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/6436589/#Comment_6436589

Atreiden
May 4, 2008

SomethingJones posted:

What's the drink mixing game? And before you answer that let me just strap myself into my chair here

It's one of the minigames you can play if you fly or crew a passanger transport spaceship. So learn to mix a perfect Hairy Roberts

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14804-Design-Civilian-Passenger-Transport

Ash1138
Sep 29, 2001

Get up, chief. We're just gettin' started.

SomethingJones posted:

From 10 for the Chairman: Episode 77
Feb 29, 2016 @ 29:00


Q: What is the end vision for planetary ship entry? I would love to see a requirement for a crew to analyse various aspects such as atmospheric pressure, composition etc, that facilitates an active participation from the crew to determine the best mode of entry.

A: Well we haven't actually... fleshed this out, we do have plans for... sort of... atmospheric, ah... entry and atmospheric flight, I mean, you know, we all kinda wanna do... if you've seen PROMETHEUS, the sort of...PROMETHEUS entry down onto the planet, if you go back to ALIENS they... had a very cool...you know, I mean... it's... much... the effects aren't nearly as nice as the ones in PROMETHEUS but you know... going through the... the STORM and the, you know... the... the CLOUDS and the TURBULENCE, ah... so we definitely want that, well like, depending on the kind of PLANET, ah, you know potentially a planet that you could go down and find minerals and strip and ah, you know, ah... GATHER RESOURCES that you could sell for a lot of money... it should perhaps be quite DANGEROUS to get down there and maybe you have to figure out how to get... down there... without, you know, getting caught up in, you know... HUGE STORMS... all the rest of the stuff...
I don't know what's dumber: the answer or the question.

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Madcosby posted:

what the hell, do the people who are working on planetary landings, or drink mixing games, or ships enjoy having their work teased for a week and then never revealed again?

Of course they do. It's an edict directly from CRobber that it is enjoyable and they must enjoy themselves, and what he says is always true and indisputable.

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





I just ate a huge burrito... someone tell Crobbers I'll have that new concept ship ready to go on sale in a couple hours.

Ravane
Oct 23, 2010

by LadyAmbien

G0RF posted:



I'm wondering if this is the game that Chris has been caught up in on those 13 hour flights to Manchester and back ... If we're getting a show about Space Plants and he's taking questions on 10ftC, it's clearly getting the full court press-- no doubt with new monetization opportunities propelling that.

Add farmable land on a MISC dome and it opens up lots of possibilities for DLC tractors and combines to improve crop yields or what not.



Of course, since the player only gets a fraction of an acre per Biodome, it's kind of pointless-- but that wouldn't stop people from buying it anyway. Heaven forbid they shortchange their MISC ENDEAVOR.

You know... It makes perfect sense now. That the ship :lesnick: suggested has enough space for him to farm just enough food to last him a single day. Stardew Citizen, I salute you! O8

orcinus
Feb 25, 2016

Fun Shoe

1500 posted:

Ah the good old days.

When the actual coder tell you its poo poo and you don't believe them, then CR states that its not poo poo and everyone agrees.
https://forums.robertsspaceindustri...dev-feedback/p1

Jesus christ, dude, you nearly gave me a heart attack.
One of the posters in that thread uses the exact same avatar my GF used to use on gtalk and twitter.

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

Scruffpuff posted:

Is there anything out there that doesn't look better than Star Citizen?

Squadron 42.

SomethingJones
Mar 6, 2016

<3

Atreiden posted:

It's one of the minigames you can play if you fly or crew a passanger transport spaceship. So learn to mix a perfect Hairy Roberts

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14804-Design-Civilian-Passenger-Transport

"A formula such as 1-1-4-8 would indicate that two parts beverage 1, one part beverage 4, and one part beverage 8 are required. The quality of the drink – displayed on the MixMaster – is determined by how accurately the portions were allocated. If the player isn’t happy with the quality of the drink they can simply press a key to discard it and start anew, but ships carry a limited supply of beverages so this tactic should be used sparingly."

I have to turn my computer off now and go outside, this is the dumbest loving thing I have read on the internet. What, is everyone 12 now who is buying this game for thousands of dollahs?

orcinus
Feb 25, 2016

Fun Shoe
... and god said unto Adam:
Ya Whoah Did Ehp Did Eh Woh Did

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

Ash1138 posted:

I don't know what's dumber: the answer or the question.

It reads like something this thread could cook up

Anyone in here still a subscriber? :roflolmao:

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

SomethingJones posted:

"A formula such as 1-1-4-8 would indicate that two parts beverage 1, one part beverage 4, and one part beverage 8 are required. The quality of the drink – displayed on the MixMaster – is determined by how accurately the portions were allocated. If the player isn’t happy with the quality of the drink they can simply press a key to discard it and start anew, but ships carry a limited supply of beverages so this tactic should be used sparingly."

I have to turn my computer off now and go outside, this is the dumbest loving thing I have read on the internet. What, is everyone 12 now who is buying this game for thousands of dollahs?

quote:

While a passenger in Coach would be fairly forgiving with regard to slow delivery times and a poor mixture quality, travelers in Business Class and up would expect much more, and repeatedly disappointing them would have an adverse effect on their opinion of the flight, and ultimately the player’s reputation.

:awesome::yarg:

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orcinus
Feb 25, 2016

Fun Shoe

SomethingJones posted:

it should perhaps be quite DANGEROUS to get down there and maybe you have to figure out how to get... down there... without, you know, getting caught up in, you know...

... If you know what i mean. *nudge nudge wink wink*

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