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Echophonic posted:I think when the Devil wants something to be on fire, it's drat well going to be on fire. Lucifers task during Creation was to create/ignite the stars.
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Echophonic posted:I think when the Devil wants something to be on fire, it's drat well going to be on fire. FRINGE posted:Specifically/especially "Gods lamplighter". I'm pretty sure he also has a lighter.
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Mar 11, 2016 02:50
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:I'm pretty sure he also has a lighter. 
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Mar 11, 2016 03:00
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FRINGE posted:Specifically/especially "Gods lamplighter". My brain processed that as Gods gaslighter, which is both hilarious and probably accurate in some way.
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Mar 11, 2016 03:23
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counterfeitsaint posted:My brain processed that as Gods gaslighter, which is both hilarious and probably accurate in some way.  *probably not
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Mar 11, 2016 03:32
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The best part was when Amenadiel and Luci were talking about how fat John was.
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Titan posted:The best part was when Amenadiel and Luci were talking about how fat John was. It felt a bit fake, possibly because it was intended to be with amenadiel trying to act like Lucifers friend again. But it was interesting in seeing two immortal beings discussing historical accuracy.
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Mar 12, 2016 23:38
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I think that it was set up to be a moment that reminds us that Amenadiel and Lucifer are not that different. They are basically coworkers who had a professional falling out. Amenadiel doesn't question God's plan, so Lucifer being condemned to hell is something he takes for granted as "just", but he's been doing a big part of Luci's job since Luci left, so he knows that it sucks balls. Amenadiel views himself as different from Lucifer, which is why he's been scheming with Maz to put Lucifer back in his place, but in this episode eh starts to see that he isn't really that different. Them genuinely joking around is part of that, I think. Along with him realizing that his motives in trying to control Lucifer and get him back to hell aren't purely loyalty to the divine plan, but also selfish in the same way the Lucifer is selfish.
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Mar 12, 2016 23:57
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I really, really wanted them to flap majestically in this scene, even if it would screw with the rest of the narrative vis a vis his powers, because drat
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Mar 13, 2016 01:15
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Rappaport posted:I really, really wanted them to flap majestically in this scene, even if it would screw with the rest of the narrative vis a vis his powers, because drat I don't think there are any hard and fast rules about his powers poo poo. Where's the fun in angelic divine powers being quantifiable all the time?
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Mar 13, 2016 03:12
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I was kind of hoping Amenadiel would mention how working with Lucifer was fun or something and they'd reconnect a bit
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Mar 13, 2016 03:30
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ShakeZula posted:Interesting that while Lucifer's charm powers don't work on Chloe, Amenadiel's seemingly do. Kind of undermines any theory that she's part angel or whatever. Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:It kinda says a lot for the show that the character is complex enough to have something like this be questioned. zoux posted:I did think it pretty weak that a little fiber optic light can mimic Holy Divinity well enough to dupe two Angels of the Lord. odiv posted:He does literally say that only the owner would know the difference.
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Mar 13, 2016 04:43
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Tiggum posted:I don't think that was powers, she just thought he was charming. Well they wouldn't have a profound effect on angels, so that's why they can't tell? If both fake angel wings and real angels wings inspire no awe in angels, then it makes sense they would't notice right away. Also, if you assume the wings that we saw at the end of the episode they were first introduced were the real ones, then the copy did look identical to the real wings. The guy who mounted the real wings changed their shape which presumably made them look a bit different. Yes I know that they actually just made a better prop, but I'm not going to hold it against a show for improving.
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Mar 13, 2016 04:48
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Tiggum posted:I don't think that was powers, she just thought he was charming. Maybe, just seemed like the same way they present people like the therapist reacting to Lucifer's charm. And Chloe's not exactly a huge flirt, liable to instantly gush over a handsome stranger.
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Mar 13, 2016 06:19
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Goons are so bad at watching TV. Chloe was clearly reacting to Amenadiel being a sexy motherfucker, not because he was enchanting her.
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ShakeZula posted:Maybe, just seemed like the same way they present people like the therapist reacting to Lucifer's charm. And Chloe's not exactly a huge flirt, liable to instantly gush over a handsome stranger. Yes, but she would totally do it just to mess with Lucifer.
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WarLocke posted:So am I alone in thinking that that one quick scene with Maz pulling out a Luci-feather from her little jewel box might imply that she had something to do with the wings being stolen in the first place? While Maz probably helped Amenadiel with his plan to trick Lucifer into going back to hell, that wasn't the implication of the feather. While Lucifer is playing piano and taking shots, she comes in and tells him that she cleaned up his mess on the beach. Then says she's going off to get ice. When the camera then focuses on her having a small feather, the implication is that while Lucifer did burn his wings there was at least one feather left that didn't burn. Maz is keeping it as part of her role as sworn protector of Lucifer. As to why she would go to clean up the beach, they made a pretty big deal out of humanity getting a piece of the divine, and angel wing ashes are probably still pretty divine.
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Mar 14, 2016 06:15
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Mar 15, 2016 02:22
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"I just figured you were sleeping with him." "I am." "...Oh." This may not be the best show ever, but it has fun character interactions at least.
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computer parts posted:It makes sense. See the thing with the Devil is that his main sin was not doing exactly what God said without any hesitation. That only makes him a bad guy if you actually believe that God is the #1 best thinker who always gets everything right. That isn't exactly realistic nor assumed for a lot of the modern day audience. And computer parts nails it. Looks like this prediction is coming true next week!
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Zebulon posted:This may not be the best show ever, but it has fun character interactions at least.
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Mar 15, 2016 04:58
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odiv posted:"Hey detective! You need your roots done!" I thought that's what he said but then I was like, "Nah."
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Mar 15, 2016 06:01
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That was some god awful green screen with Jim Rash and Lucifer on the roof.
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Mar 15, 2016 06:11
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I don't know if the lighting and stuff was weird this episode or if I was just more high than normal, but it seemed super weird this evening. Was it just me? I mean, good episode, but that just struck me as odd.
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Mar 15, 2016 06:17
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SavTargaryen posted:I don't know if the lighting and stuff was weird this episode or if I was just more high than normal, but it seemed super weird this evening. Was it just me? I mean, good episode, but that just struck me as odd. The green screen as mentioned was kinda wonky but that's all I really noticed.
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Mar 15, 2016 06:35
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Just wanna say I totally called Dan being the guy who shot what's his face, Michael or whatever his name is. It was that bit about not being able to find the prints on the key that convinced me, personally.
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Mar 15, 2016 15:49
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I knew I recognised Coma-Cop, its the guy who played Devil in Justified.
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My only thought when Jim Rash was on Lucifer:
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odiv posted:The Dan reveal this early makes me think he's not actually "dirty", but has some super convoluted excuse for why his actions in shooting the other cop was justified. If he were actually the bad guy here, it feels like they would have let us wonder for a few episodes. Yeah, it seemed super weird, I mean, we have no idea why he shot them in the first place.
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Mar 16, 2016 03:42
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My first reaction was that he followed Chloe there because of the same GPS nonsense she used to find the place, saw the suspicious scene and started shooting, but he really doesn't seem like a shooty cop type, so who knows. I assume there's some "good" reason that we don't know about yet.
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counterfeitsaint posted:My first reaction was that he followed Chloe there because of the same GPS nonsense she used to find the place, saw the suspicious scene and started shooting, but he really doesn't seem like a shooty cop type, so who knows. I assume there's some "good" reason that we don't know about yet. But he came up through a secret passageway and shot them, he knew the gym pretty well.
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:But he came up through a secret passageway and shot them, he knew the gym pretty well. Unless that was how dirty cop or the other guy got there and Dan just used it as an exit. The only valid reasons I can think of for Dan to shoot dirty cop are that Dan was the one who set up the meet to buy info on the dirty cop, or Dan was there for some other reason and saw dirty cop look over toward Chloe.
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So... The doctor finaly managed to resist Lucifer's charms. I wonder if that's a matter of 'exposure' (building up a 'resistance'?) or if he really is losing his powers gradually?
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WarLocke posted:So... The doctor finaly managed to resist Lucifer's charms. I wonder if that's a matter of 'exposure' (building up a 'resistance'?) or if he really is losing his powers gradually? Well I don't think that Lucifer's charms are really like mind control or anything, I think that his angelic nature simply registers as "incredibly desirable" to humans if they are of a sexual orientation that likes men. As such, people attracted to Lucifer still posses complete free will in the matter, it's just that they are going to think he's "worth it" to risk everything to be with him because of how desirable he seems to them. But there's no reason they couldn't make a conscious choice to not be with him even though they still find him attractive. I think the main reason that Linda wants to break off her sexual relationship with Lucifer is because she thinks it's bad for him. Linda is recognizing his infatuation with Chloe, and he is beginning to, and because she cares about him, she is choosing not to be selfish.
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I might be really obtuse, but is the show playing that angle? Lucifer pointed out his situation wasn't anything like the jealous guy's emotions and when he asked Chloe, she said she agreed. Plus, he's not losing his powers. He got the judge to pick his therapist AND bring her gavel to bed.
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Pan Dulce posted:I might be really obtuse, but is the show playing that angle? Lucifer pointed out his situation wasn't anything like the jealous guy's emotions and when he asked Chloe, she said she agreed. Lucifer's in denial and Chloe will say whatever to get him to shut up. I think my favorite joke in this last episode, despite being totally immature, was Lucifer's reaction to the whiskey with pickle juice chaser: "Need to have Maz try this, she loves a salty aftertaste." 
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Mar 16, 2016 18:58
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I still want to see Lucifer pick up some dudes. He's the devil, for Christ's sake! He should be sampling from both platters.
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Pan Dulce posted:I might be really obtuse, but is the show playing that angle? Lucifer pointed out his situation wasn't anything like the jealous guy's emotions and when he asked Chloe, she said she agreed. Well, there are a lot of differences between that guy and Lucifer. Which is why they say they are "nothing alike" but it is incredibly obvious that Lucifer is jealous of Dan. This episode does a lot of things to drive that home. "Why bother coveting something when you can just take it?" "What does she see in him?" and his look at the end when Chloe hugs Dan. I also agree that is not losing his powers. edit: ^yeah, I thought about this early. I actually started writing a post about how I was disappointed they didn't make Lucifer bisexual. He seems like he should be a creature of pure carnal energy and not bound by specific orientations. But it would also be tricky to do without having kind of a negative connotation "of course the devil is gay" type thing. It could easily end up in really touchy territory and I can't really blame the writers for avoiding it. But no seriously Lucifer and Amenadiel should angry make-out. Snak fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Mar 16, 2016 |
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