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OneThousandMonkeys posted:As I recall the main problem with Civil War-era Iron Man was that his character became a mustache-twirling villain and didn't make much sense. Now I am reading panels where he is mouthing off in front of gods and demigods and clearly has no concept of his own power level in relation. Both of those scenes were written by JMS who got a real bug up his butt about Iron Man around Civil War. He's also the one who had Iron Man hire a villain to attack him when he was testifying before Congress.
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I could see him doing that.
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Deadpool, Cable, and 60s Nick Fury vs. Time Traveling Hitler (Deadpool #26, 2011-2014 run) 
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Vicissitude posted:What about those Punisher panels where Peter just full on tanks Frank's punches and beats the crap out of him? anyone got these?
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I'm not sure what I was expecting, but that's even better  "I regularly fight a shapeshifter made out of sand and an insane goo-alien who doesn't set off my spider-sense. You're just a dude."
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muscles like this? posted:Both of those scenes were written by JMS who got a real bug up his butt about Iron Man around Civil War. He's also the one who had Iron Man hire a villain to attack him when he was testifying before Congress. But JMS isn't the one who had Iron Man hire an entire crew of mass murderers as his hit squad so that actually seems like a step down from the regular Civil War portrayal.
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If you add up what Dan Slott and JMS made the pro-reg side do they probably did more damage than most supervillains do in their entire career.
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Malachite_Dragon posted:I'm not sure what I was expecting, but that's even better Garth Ennis had kittens when he read that page.
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Random Stranger posted:But JMS isn't the one who had Iron Man hire an entire crew of mass murderers as his hit squad so that actually seems like a step down from the regular Civil War portrayal. The main CW mini also had Iron Man make a lobotomised clone of one of his best friends and then continue to use the clone even after it murdered another hero. And his side responded to a teenage hero breaking up a mugging by attacking him with a helicopter.
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Horrible Taste posted:The main CW mini also had Iron Man make a lobotomised clone of one of his best friends and then continue to use the clone even after it murdered another hero. And his side responded to a teenage hero breaking up a mugging by attacking him with a helicopter. I liked it when they conscripted a bunch of kids and told them they either had to kill people for the government or be crippled via nanomachines, but that was mostly because of Taskmaster and Ant-Man being the laziest heroes ever.
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 KILL SIX BILLION DEMONS This is why suicide by cop is a bad idea on demigods.
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It's badass to horifically curse someone?
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Lurdiak posted:It's badass to horifically curse someone? Yes.
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Lurdiak posted:It's badass to horifically curse someone? if the Punisher horribly killing people by the truckload is considered to be badass, then a demigod giving an ironic and gory demise to one of her subjects is badass.
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ElMaligno posted:if the Punisher horribly killing people by the truckload is considered to be badass, then a demigod giving an ironic and gory demise to one of her subjects is badass.  But punisher is different, because:
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It's metal. I see that as a near-synonym of "badass," but typically applied to a situation or event, rather than a person or act. ( )
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I'd say the more badass part is him standing up to Mottom to begin with:  While admirable, I think a more subtle approach is probably a better idea when dealing with ill tempered deities.
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Random Stranger posted:But JMS isn't the one who had Iron Man hire an entire crew of mass murderers as his hit squad so that actually seems like a step down from the regular Civil War portrayal. Iron Man didn't do that, though. That was the government's call and Hill sent them after Spider-Man despite Tony insisting that she not do that. The worst thing Tony did in the main series is create Clone Thor. Emphasis on create because utilizing it was also Hill's idea. That was his entire point in the main series. He didn't even truly want registration, but it wasn't going anywhere and having him get behind it to eventually control it was a better option than having people like Hill calling the shots.
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It always bothered me that the pro-registration side never worked out that the most damaging thing they could have done was send ordinary police officers after anti-registration supers.
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A fickle god mockingly killing a powerless servant is about as badass as that panel of Poison Ivy taunting someone as her plant dissolved his legs to mush. Seriously, Kill 6 Billion Demons is a great webcomic (and so is Necropolis, which has appeared here a bunch of times), but neither the intent nor the effect of that scene is "Wow, that's badass."
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Nilbop posted:A fickle god mockingly killing a powerless servant is about as badass as that panel of Poison Ivy taunting someone as her plant dissolved his legs to mush. A key aspect of 'badass', I think, is the will to keep going even when in a situation where one is seemingly overpowered. When one is so much more powerful than one's opponent, there's very little that can be considered badass. The Spectre killing everyone on death row (including the guards, because they were dirty), that's not badass. Jim Corrigan convincing Madame Xanadu to relinquish the power of the Spectre, that's badass. Skurge shooting someone, that's not badass. Skurge standing alone at Gjallerbru, as thousands upon thousands of demons rush him... that's badass. Jesse Custer using the Word to make Hoover count three million grains of sand, that's not badass. Featherstone throwing herself out of a moving car before Jesse can figure out what the gently caress is going on, clambering to her feet, sprinting off the highway , and hiding face-down in a ditch with her fingers shoved in her ears so that she can't hear the Word...
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It probably wouldn't have gotten any flak if they'd had the goddess go on to take a piece of fruit, bite into it, and then have to spit it out due to tree-man getting in one last "gently caress you" by his fruit being poisonous to assholes. Then again I think up weird poo poo like this at work because it's slow as gently caress, so 
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Parahexavoctal posted:The Spectre killing everyone on death row (including the guards, because they were dirty), that's not badass. Yes, it is. Parahexavoctal posted:Jesse Custer using the Word to make Hoover count three million grains of sand, that's not badass. No, but it's hilarious. Nilbop posted:A fickle god mockingly killing a powerless servant is about as badass as that panel of Poison Ivy taunting someone as her plant dissolved his legs to mush. Moral: People should respect their superiors. 
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E: y'know what, let's not feed the derail.
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Instead of arguing with WickedHate, let's post more good Spidey moments Aside from a touch of unfortunate racial stereotyping, this is a pretty good scene. I'm a sucker for heroes resolving situations nonviolently by just reminding baddies that they're fuckin superheroes.
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That's exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about when I say Spider-Man should be presented as more intimidating. That's awesome. There's no need for him to be Batman or Rorschach breaking fingers, but more "Spider" and more "Man". Of course, part of the problem is that he's constantly getting reset to being a high school student in every adaption and spin off, so before you know all that sticks in people's mind resembles a mix between Sam Alexander and Plastic Man, as though relative youth and jokes are his sole defining traits.
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I believe Spider-man was having a really bad time when that happened. He tends to get pretty scary when he's in a nasty mood.
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Punching hard enough to make Hulk feel it is a pretty good meter for strength, I feel.
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Despite going crazy-nutso on Hulk due to grief-powered rage, that fight ends with Hulk realizing Spider-man's not right in the head and letting him exhaust himself beating on him and then going "Yeah Hulk been through this kinda poo poo. Hulk feels you. Well, bye." Still, the effort is impressive.
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Lurdiak posted:Despite going crazy-nutso on Hulk due to grief-powered rage, that fight ends with Hulk realizing Spider-man's not right in the head and letting him exhaust himself beating on him and then going "Yeah Hulk been through this kinda poo poo. Hulk feels you. Well, bye." Still, the effort is impressive.  
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And now to ruin the moment!  My personal favorite spider-intimidaton.  Sometimes you just have to out-crazy crazy. Or just aren't in the mood, that works too.
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That's intended as a bluff of course, but I'd be surprised if at one point Spiderman didn't come up with a spider-swarm caller. He's an A-list Marvel guy so of course there's nothing he's not good at.
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Stop with the loss.jpg edits.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:That's intended as a bluff of course, but I'd be surprised if at one point Spiderman didn't come up with a spider-swarm caller. He's an A-list Marvel guy so of course there's nothing he's not good at. You kidding? That'd be infringing on Both Batmans AND Antmans schtick. He couldn't afford the lawsuits
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Parahexavoctal posted:A key aspect of 'badass', I think, is the will to keep going even when in a situation where one is seemingly overpowered. When one is so much more powerful than one's opponent, there's very little that can be considered badass. Correct, hence the most badass panel in K6BD is this:  context
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Spider-man knows how to appear badass to the kids in Runaways Vol 2 #11
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That's why Spider-Man is really scary when he gets pushed too far- because he's not scary the rest of the time. It's like that saying about what all wise men fear - the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.
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Travis343 posted:It's like that saying about what all wise men fear - the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man. And publishing schedules?
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Rigged Death Trap posted:
It's loving amazing and i love it.
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