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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:Arseholes, arseholes everywhere...... "Downloads of this size aren't uncommon" - a guy who has never participated in any other pre-release game
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:Arseholes, arseholes everywhere...... Apparently trying to play the alpha with bandwidth caps is the equivalent of trying to play on a Pentium? 
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maybe i'm stupid but i just can't understand this uh, logic. 1. i don't understand why he thinks it's okay to have to download 30gb of the same bullshit every new update and 2. why he thinks that if he's convinced he's having a positive experience then that means everything is okay. this is the SC equivalent of "maybe the game just isn't for you" when people try and complain about any issues in Elite D. i love ED but the game has flaws and trying to discuss that with people (usually on reddit) almost always begins or ends with the objector telling you the game "just isn't for you". if i think everything is okay, then everything is okay. if you can't see everything is okay well then maybe you just don't understand game development.
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Mar 14, 2016 12:30
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Going on that thread has filled me with some serious righteous indignation,the loving smugness of those wankers.......and the poo poo that they're chatting....
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Mar 14, 2016 12:33
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Sundowner posted:maybe i'm stupid but i just can't understand this uh, logic. I'm ok with people using the "maybe the game isn't for you" argument as long as they don't also try to claim it's the greatest game ever. SC alpha is in a really lovely state, but you still have people saying that it's currently better than any other game out there. It's loving bizarre.
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Mar 14, 2016 12:34
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Sundowner posted:maybe i'm stupid but i just can't understand this uh, logic. Trying to have a discussion on reddit is usually futile, regardless the subject. But the SC subreddit seems worse than most. You literally can't voice any criticism without downvoting and being accused of being Derek Smart. Even former employees critic like David Jannisons letter, Lizzy Finnengans article and the recent interview with Rod Iriving, is somehow Derek Smart and can therefore be ignored.
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Mar 14, 2016 12:42
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Chalks posted:I'm ok with people using the "maybe the game isn't for you" argument as long as they don't also try to claim it's the greatest game ever. SC alpha is in a really lovely state, but you still have people saying that it's currently better than any other game out there. It's loving bizarre. no the "maybe the game isn't for you" is the dumbest argument ever and is the video game equivalent to calling a film pretentious in liue of a valid, even barely thought out criticism. it's a lazy way to shew away people from the game because they might have a problem with it. being able to acknowledge flaws in something you enjoy is perfectly fine but it scares some people to think they might have to acknowledge Their Favourite Thing might not be immaculate. ED is no different, it's a great but flawed game and lots of die hard fans hate to admit that and so assume everyone else just doesn't "get it". Atreiden posted:Trying to have a discussion on reddit is usually futile, regardless the subject. But the SC subreddit seems worse than most. You literally can't voice any criticism without downvoting and being accused of being Derek Smart. Even former employees critic like David Jannisons letter, Lizzy Finnengans article and the recent interview with Rod Iriving, is somehow Derek Smart and can therefore be ignored. that's true, i've given up on trying to talk about ED on reddit and just use it as as place to look at dumb pictures and videos rather than a place that might be reasonable but the subreddit is a far shot better than the Frontier forums which is effectively a bunch of old farts moaning about everyone and everything except their perfect favourite space sim and any objectors might as well either be idiots or millennials.
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drunken movie bullshit continued freddie prinzzzze jr arm > massive vaccum of space frosted tips is NOT immume to vacuum of space, is seriously injured long enough to monologue, promptly forgotten. Dead? Will keep an eye out. lost star marine footage found, looks to be some kind of interactive movie ARG the once and future prinze is apparently the main character because he was literally born to be. boring & lazy i can definitely see a cool deep-sea submarine type drama out of this if it was made by anyone else. oh god this is the first time ive noticed the main characters name is chris. gently caress this poo poo so much nothing of significance has happened in 20 minutes (reallly the whole loving movie) and im falling asleep crobberts salute, good night sweet prinze
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So I compiled all of the questions for the chairman from the last 12 months into a list. There are 240 questions in total Of those 240 questions, 160 of them relate directly to a feature or in-game mechanic Of those 160 features & mechanics, 154 of them are not currently implemented and 6 of them I don't know whether they're in the game yet or not The 6 unknowns are: - Travelling without the quantum drive - Ship parking in the PU - Travelling in fleets - Open space travel - Extreme ship maneuvures - Getting everyone in the same instance Is it actually possible that of the 160 features that Chris has communicated to his backers over the last 12 months, exactly 0% have been implemented? The most recurring questions relate to: - Procedural tech - Linux version - NPC AI - VR headsets I don't know if I can be arsed to go through all of them and see if any of these 160 features are NOT planned - I'm working on the assumption that he's answered all of these with a 'yes it's coming' sort of thing, which seems to be a fairly safe bet.
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Chalks posted:I'm ok with people using the "maybe the game isn't for you" argument as long as they don't also try to claim it's the greatest game ever. SC alpha is in a really lovely state, but you still have people saying that it's currently better than any other game out there. It's loving bizarre. This. I find it somewhat frustrating when they simultaneously claim "it's pre-alpha, no poo poo there are lots of problems but it's pre-alpha; everything's excusable in a pre-alpha you whiny entitled butthurt snowflake (pre-alpha)" and "wow I've never had a more fulfilling moment in my life than the weeks I've spent on meaningful gameplay in the glorious TWO POINT TWO I'm really impressed with the stability and the dedication obvious from the steadily progressing content and fixes"
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Chalks posted:I'm ok with people using the "maybe the game isn't for you" argument as long as they don't also try to claim it's the greatest game ever. SC alpha is in a really lovely state, but you still have people saying that it's currently better than any other game out there. It's loving bizarre. I think the problem is when it's used as an argument, and not a way to agree to disagree about something.
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Mar 14, 2016 12:47
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I think you're all going to love this https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/322207/road-to-the-finish-line-the-sc-completion-tracking-thread
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:ARSEHOLES Someone refer the honorable gentleman to the answer that Chris gave 2 weeks ago Q: Are there any plans to streamline patch sizes? A: So yes absolutely we have a plan in fact I sat down ah earlier this week which would be the previous week to you seeing this cos we're recording this on Friday and you um watch us on Monday, ehm but ehmmmm yeah I think we have a really aahhh cool plan that's very configured to ah our new development paradigm ah, you know, ah, not saying new for us but sort of the new paradigm of what WE'RE doing which is constantly ehm, you know, building, testing, DEPLOYING ah both internally and then externally to, ah, you know, you guys in the community ahm first level and so the um public test universe the PTU and then of course the live and so, you know we need a solution that we can be... BUILDING rapidly and iterating rapidly and getting to as efficiently as possible and our current one is not the best, cos it has the sort of big monolithic pack files, each pack file... is... two gigs, and there's quite a few of 'em, and if one file changes in it you have to build the whole pack file and the way our... BUILD SYSTEM works and all the DATA is we have to rebuild all the DATA, ah, into the pack files right now, ah ...
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Mar 14, 2016 12:48
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SomethingJones posted:So I compiled all of the questions for the chairman from the last 12 months into a list. Whoa, that's some digging you done. Got a list you could google drive for us suckers to add information to?
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I think the problem is when it's used as an argument, and not a way to agree to disagree about something. It's really not a very good argument, unless it's used against someone who wants features they obviously haven't promised and aren't aiming for. I see it used against people who complain about them not delivering what they promised, which is just stupid. A better argument then would be "well, maybe this isn't the game for CIG then"
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Mar 14, 2016 12:51
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Colostomy Bag posted:
Wait! wat!? I guess math is hard after all. ps: Those wankers have no clue how the financial aspects of PC game sales work.
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Mar 14, 2016 12:51
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D_Smart posted:Wait! wat!? How much do your games sell, Derek? Do you get on the charts, or do you have more of a dedicated space grognard following?
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:I think you're all going to love this I'll start the list for them: ☑ Creation Of The Known Universe ☑ Creation Of The One True Gob Chris Roberts ☑ Chris Roberts Creates Wing Commander ☑ Chris Roberts has pavlovian fever dreams, the concept for Star Citizen is born ☑ Chris Roberts Creates Freelancer ☑ Chris Roberts has a successful Hollywood career ☑ Chris Roberts meets wife Sandi who is the best sales woman in the world and has been since she was a little girl ☑ Chris Roberts creates ~The Vision List~ ☑ Chris Roberts helms the most successful crowdfunding project (not just game) in history ☑ Licensing Rights to Cryengine secured ☑ Implementation of 64bit precision
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SomethingJones posted:So I compiled all of the questions for the chairman from the last 12 months into a list. This is an amazing stat, even if it's above 0% somehow also, you may want to see a therapist about any PTSD incurred from this exercise.
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Sundowner posted:I'll start the list for them:
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Sundowner posted:no the "maybe the game isn't for you" is the dumbest argument ever and is the video game equivalent to calling a film pretentious in liue of a valid, even barely thought out criticism. it's a lazy way to shew away people from the game because they might have a problem with it. I disagree. I played E:D, it was slow paced and relaxing and I really enjoyed it. If you played it and said "holy gently caress this is so boring" I would say that this is a fair assessment of the game from your perspective. It would be clear that you don't enjoy games that are this slow paced whereas I do and thus, maybe the game isn't for you. It's not a flaw in the game, specifically, so long as they did not intend for it to be fast paced and did not intend for it to appeal to people who want an action packed game. No matter what the game is, you will find people who don't like it for a reason that's fundamental to its design. I find MOBAs to be far too stressful and action packed - but I wouldn't try to claim that this is a flaw in their design and I know that if they were slower then people would find them too slow. You're not going to find E:D developers saying "oh, poo poo, it's slow, we need to fix this" - it's intended and some people like it.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Whoa, that's some digging you done. Got a list you could google drive for us suckers to add information to? ODS Openoffice format https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7SGOOEBBxDCa09lMVJRNUNhdHM/view?usp=sharing Excel format https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7SGOOEBBxDCOExKVG9qX1pBclk/view?usp=sharing Flat text file containing just the questions & dates http://pastebin.com/hXjqrT31
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Chalks posted:I disagree. I played E:D, it was slow paced and relaxing and I really enjoyed it. If you played it and said "holy gently caress this is so boring" I would say that this is a fair assessment of the game from your perspective. It would be clear that you don't enjoy games that are this slow paced whereas I do and thus, maybe the game isn't for you. I love ED for it's very specific design philosophy. I like that it's slow... poo poo I can could spend hours blasting asteroids with a laser and collecting rocks to sell. But there are issues with their implemented features that Frontier themselves acknowledge but some fans just can't wrap their head around. I have issues with what's in the game, not what I think the game should be or should include or should account for. I've been told the game isn't for me simply because I took issue with their hosed up half baked mission system. It's usually the people like to think you have to solely "make your own fun" (I don't have an issue with that ideal on the surface) despite the fact that their own ideology for the game flies counter to core elements within the game itself. The game has missions, bounties, a law system, a political system but if you have an issue with how any of those are implemented, well... "maybe the game just isn't for you". It's a half-witted response people give when they can't come up with an actual counter argument or can't disprove you. Sundowner fucked around with this message at 13:05 on Mar 14, 2016 |
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[quote="SomethingJones" post="457413874"] ODS Openoffice format https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7SGOOEBBxDCa09lMVJRNUNhdHM/view?usp=sharing Excel format https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7SGOOEBBxDCOExKVG9qX1pBclk/view?usp=sharing Flat text file containing just the questions & dates http://pastebin.com/hXjqrT31 a true hero of the laxy
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Sundowner posted:I love ED for it's very specific design philosophy. I like that it's slow... poo poo I can could spend hours blasting asteroids with a laser and collecting rocks to sell. But there are issues with their implemented features that Frontier themselves acknowledge but some fans just can't wrap their head around. I have issues with what's in the game, not what I think the game should be or should include or should account for. A lot of them are in "how can I best protect the game from this criticism" mode, a lot of the more reasonable people must have burned out
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SomethingJones posted:ODS Openoffice format  Be careful not to fly too close to that sun, young IcarusNow we just need to make some scope graphs and videos 
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Sundowner posted:I love ED for it's very specific design philosophy. I like that it's slow... poo poo I can could spend hours blasting asteroids with a laser and collecting rocks to sell. But there are issues with their implemented features that Frontier themselves acknowledge but some fans just can't wrap their head around. I have issues with what's in the game, not what I think the game should be or should include or should account for. I guess it depends what you're complaining about. 99% of complaints I've read talk about it being boring and slow. Responding to that with it not being the game for them seems entirely fair and I'm not sure there's a more refined point to be made. I mean maybe people use that argument when someone complains about some of the poorly implemented aspects of the game but generally I see it used in the context I used it. I don't know how to respond to someone who thinks something that I enjoy is too slow besides acknowledging that they probably just enjoy different things to me. I think trying to come up with a counter argument to convince them that actually they're wrong and they do like it will probably be ineffectual.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:A lot of them are in "how can I best protect the game from this criticism" mode, a lot of the more reasonable people must have burned out It must be this. I understand not wanting people to get the wrong idea about something you like but it feels lazy and disingenuous to just shut people out because they might not "get it".
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Galarox posted:The Stimpire Parps Back   Son, you've arrived. That was outstanding! Going to tweet that today and see how many Spergs (most are blocked) inject themselves in my followers feeds in protest.
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SomethingJones posted:Here is an early pre-pre-pre alpha screenshot showing that Star Citizen has been in development since 1902 
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Dante80 posted:
Do you have a link to that thread? I can't find it.
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Galarox posted:Special bonus parp wars jpeg, Jaben The Hutt: That's what should've been in the poster I think. With Sean Tracy as Darth
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his nibs posted:I don't know much about open game development but there seems a lot wrong with this "...it's just adding features and content." For backers who want Second Life in Space.
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Good morning star citizen thread happy monday
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Renegret posted:Good morning star citizen thread Jokes on you, my Monday's almost over. It was also a public holiday. Back to studying tomorrow 
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Jokes on you, my Monday's almost over. I am at work so I look forward to a lot of good star citizen posts to keep me entertained so I can avoid actually doing work at work.
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