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the series literally closes on a trilogy where the female lead can't remember who she is or that she has superpowers and also everyone is magically incapable of remembering her or their interactions with her once she leaves her presence. he apparently felt this was an interesting enough gimmick to drag out for like 1800 pages. she spends most of that time panicking and having no idea what to do. i can't remember if she really does anything at all that displays any sort of agency in those three books.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:I don't know who called it "gritty and realistic", but if supernatural elements are incompatible with that, the author didn't exactly pull a fast one on you late in the series. The supernatural was present in the prologue of the first book, if you didn't want to read books about that, why go past there? There's plenty of things to criticize but that doesn't seem like a very good one to me. The theme of magic returning to the world is cool and I suspect that it will end up being seen as a source of suffering, as the maesters believe. Too bad absolutely none of that will be ever be addressed because boobs and violence. i said advertised (thought it does suck grrm didn't realize the only interesting stuff was the politics in the west). and the video game demon's souls did magic returning to the world much better than georgie boy ever could.
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Groovelord Neato posted:and the video game...did...much better 
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:the series literally closes on a trilogy where the female lead can't remember who she is or that she has superpowers and also everyone is magically incapable of remembering her or their interactions with her once she leaves her presence. he apparently felt this was an interesting enough gimmick to drag out for like 1800 pages. she spends most of that time panicking and having no idea what to do. i can't remember if she really does anything at all that displays any sort of agency in those three books. no man, theres more. it doesnt end there. he wrote more.
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Mar 14, 2016 23:29
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jsoh posted:no man, theres more. it doesnt end there. he wrote more. what? i swear to god Confessor or whatever was the last one. don't tell me he kept going. I won't want to have to read more sword of truth.
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Mar 15, 2016 00:26
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"Ian McShane posted:“You say the slightest thing and the Internet goes ape ... It's only tits and dragons." Ian McShane is a drat international treasure
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Mar 15, 2016 00:36
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can't do this in a multivolume high fantasy book series thread.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:what? i swear to god Confessor or whatever was the last one. don't tell me he kept going. I won't want to have to read more sword of truth. technically its the last of the things titled sword of truth but theres 4 books that are "a richard and kalhan adventures" or some poo poo
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jsoh posted:technically its the last of the things titled sword of truth but theres 4 books that are "a richard and kalhan adventures" or some poo poo oh jesus christ, looks like im gonna be reading some lovely rear end fantasy books when i finish with the hydrogen sonata. drat my obsessive completionist nature.
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Mar 15, 2016 01:59
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If deadwood oval office man is bringing someone back to life does that mean they're making clegane the new stoneheart? That's dumb I hope he just meant it metaphorically. What's wrong with a regular non magical redemption arc?
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Krinkle posted:If deadwood oval office man is bringing someone back to life does that mean they're making clegane the new stoneheart? That's dumb I hope he just meant it metaphorically. What's wrong with a regular non magical redemption arc? He's probably Aeron Greyjoy or whatever.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:If y'all aren't reading Matt Stover for your gritty, savage fantasy tales, you're doing it wrong. Yes, Matt Stover's Heart of an Athelete which describes his epic journey as to the underworld of Christianity and being a witness to the transgressions of the Baltimore Ravens.
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Business Insider just did a piece on CLEGANEBOWL and I realized I have forgotten so much of the books because of the TV show and jokes in this thread. I was like "Brienne fought the Hound, how did she run into the gravedigger in that one chapter" (I had to look it up, Sandor fought those Lannister dudes and """"died"""")... But I still honestly have no idea what they're talking about with Cersei requiring a trial by combat. She did the naked walk and last I remember that was the end of all that.
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Naked walk was for fornication. She's still charged with treason and murder.
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Mar 15, 2016 02:46
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Side note: I have irony poisoning. I'm trying to remember season 4 and 5 versus the show and all that comes to mind is Ser Pounce is the prince that was promised and the show skipping sticky princes and myrish swamp.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:oh jesus christ, looks like im gonna be reading some lovely rear end fantasy books when i finish with the hydrogen sonata. drat my obsessive completionist nature.  You'll never again have to read about evil incarnated as a chicken, or big barbed namble cocks, or how morally righteous it is to murder unarmed anti-war protesters (or kick small children in the face) , or how Kahlan is only almost-raped once a book, or the statue that's so inspiringly crafted it leads to a revolt against the not-USSR, or...thankfully, I'd forgotten most of that poo poo, but I'm sure you haven't! e: Sorry, the protesters weren't unarmed, they were "armed only with their hatred for moral clarity". Right. Why is this still buried in my brain? Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Mar 15, 2016 |
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Mar 15, 2016 05:49
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Sword of Truth has super super hot babes tho, and not even all of them get raped repeatedly. Although I could be wrong about that.
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That doesn't even look like real facial hair in his headshot. If your beard looks like brown shoe polish you need to step up your game.
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MrSlam posted:Ian McShane is a drat international treasure Where do we go to donate to the "Ian McShane tells TVIV to shut the gently caress up" fund?
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Where do we go to donate to the "Ian McShane tells TVIV to shut the gently caress up" fund? Here ya go!
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Mar 15, 2016 14:43
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I don't remember the first two or three Sword of Truth novels being that bad but they steadily descend into insanity after that. Also they all become disturbingly formulaic. Richard rants about the free market, Kahlan gets almost raped, all looks lost, then Richard miraculously figures out how to fix everything and wins in the last chapter. Also the main bad guy in that eats all the time, has his own personal retinue of whores, and is a communist. And there's a caste of women that just torture people and wear tight leather. And the much noted demonic chicken. I'm forgetting other stuff.
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Ginette Reno posted:I don't remember the first two or three Sword of Truth novels being that bad but they steadily descend into insanity after that. Also they all become disturbingly formulaic. Richard rants about the free market, Kahlan gets almost raped, all looks lost, then Richard miraculously figures out how to fix everything and wins in the last chapter. dont forget that the torture women have magical leather dildos that inflict extreme pain upon touch
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Mar 15, 2016 16:21
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It's implied that the one used on Richard is shoved up his rear end at some point. He wears it around his neck for most of the second book.
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Kavak posted:It's implied that the one used on Richard is shoved up his rear end at some point. Worse/douchier necklace material fashion choice, magic leather torture dildo that still has your own rear end smegma on it, or puka shell?
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I'm pretty sure that once you've been raped with an rear end torture dildo, you're entitled to do whatever the gently caress you want with it.
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also the first baddy's name was fuckin "darken rahl". like, come on dude.
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second baddy wants you to be very clear that he has mustachios, and they are very particularly groomed
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:also the first baddy's name was fuckin "darken rahl". like, come on dude. Am uh, am I saying this right? 
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Goodkind wishes he was as lofty as post-hair metal skeezes.
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Ginette Reno posted:I don't remember the first two or three Sword of Truth novels being that bad but they steadily descend into insanity after that. Also they all become disturbingly formulaic. Even the chicken gets copied later on, except it's a possessed goat spy, which Richard discovers at the very end followed by a group chortle.
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Lycus posted:Naked walk was for fornication. She's still charged with treason and murder. Considering Cersei I could see her decided to go "you know what, gently caress it, my confession was simply to get out of your goddamn torture chambers because you wouldn't accept the truth of my innocence. I recant everything, gently caress you and say hello to my undead champion." Then Sandor shows up as the champion for the faith and we get zombie Cleganebowl. Ravenfood posted:No, stop, you finished your geas and read all of the Sword of Truth books. You're free! I watched the TV series on Netflix years ago and while it seemed like it was trying (and usually failing) to copy the campy feel of Hercules and Xena, these books just sound like some next level poo poo.  Like in one of the episodes Zed was kidnapped by the BDSM rape witches and he seemed to be slowly getting through to her but richard and the others basically snipe her and she falls off a cliff to her death and either Zed doesn't say anything or nobody cares that she was coming around. The TV show has the demon chicken in it too at some point but I could only laugh because it was so loving goofy. That probably wasn't the intent though. Do the books also have a part where Richard is apparently able to become a totally amazing god-tier magic user but he decided to quit his training to help his friends right now which somehow also results in his godlike magic powers being lost forever? ...goddamn you people for making me remember that TV show. 
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So what did Ian McShane spoil?
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Junkenstein posted:So what did Ian McShane spoil? Stoneheart may be back in.
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Looking at it seems he's the monk who's chilling with the Hound? I thought he was playing Euron. Bollocks, that was one of the few things I was looking forward to.
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He plays a former soldier who found peace and said he "brings back a character everyone thought was dead". This fits exactly with the description of the elder brother on the quiet isle bringing back Sandor Clegane. Safe to assume that Sandor's survival will be much more explicit in the show than it is in the book.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:He plays a former soldier who found peace and said he "brings back a character everyone thought was dead". This fits exactly with the description of the elder brother on the quiet isle bringing back Sandor Clegane. Safe to assume that Sandor's survival will be much more explicit in the show than it is in the book. Hopefully we'll be getting the Cleganebowl this season. I have a bet with my roommate that it happens in episode 8, just before the giant Stark/Bolton battle in ep. 9.
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Personally I find the whole cleganbowl thing to be very un-grrm like, it's the sort of closure he usually shies away from. Perhaps Sandor will be instrumental to the downfall of unGregor but I'll be surprised if they actually duel it out.
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But it is very D&D like sooooooooooo
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