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trump is dogwhistling at white supremacists and the target audience understands and appreciates it here's a link with a number of lengthy direct quotes http://antifascistnews.net/2016/01/21/white-nationalist-american-freedom-party-running-donald-trump-super-pac/ this is how trump approached 'disavowing' the white nationalist robocalls in january: quote:BURNETT: Mr. Trump, when you hear that, does that shock you? Do you denounce that? the response, from the people on the robocall he so viciously denounced: quote:JOHNSON: Donald Trump’s response when he was asked to address it was just a wonderful response. He disavowed us, but he explained why there is so much anger in America that I couldn’t have asked for a better approach from him. quote:[jared taylor]Yes, he was, you know, for days everybody was calling him up, calling up his campaign saying, “What do you think of these horrible people? Denounce them, denounce them.” And he didn’t. You know, he just maintained a dignified silence as he’s capable of doing. And then finally when CNN’s Erin Burnett really forced him to say, “Well, I would disavow it.” But she asked him, “are you shocked by this? Will you denounce this?” “I’m not shocked by anything in America.” I thought that was a great line. He’s so quick on his feet. And then he goes to say, “I would disavow it” but then he goes on to explain why people are so angry. In effect, he’s saying, “Yeah, yeah, if you want me to denounce it I will, but I understand exactly what these guys are saying, they’re furious, and they’re right to be furious.” So if he disavowed us, he did it, I thought, in the nicest possible way. i don't think any step in this process - the robocalls from the extremists, the dogwhistle-full non-disavowal disavowal, the positive response from the people he was pretending to disavow - has a parallel in the sanders campaign. the kill-the-gays guys cruz is buddies with might be a fair comparison, and it's probably fair to say cruz is closer to them than trump is to white supremacists oystertoadfish fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Mar 17, 2016 |
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GrimGypsy posted:MSNBC just showed a Pennsylvania GE poll for head-to-heads Haha Kasich's got the hot hand now, and all he had to do was hang around.
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Mar 17, 2016 00:51
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Maybe Citizens United vs FEC wasn't such a bad thing after all...
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GrimGypsy posted:MSNBC just showed a Pennsylvania GE poll for head-to-heads i hope you're buckled up
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Mar 17, 2016 00:52
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https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/710252790724075520
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GrimGypsy posted:MSNBC just showed a Pennsylvania GE poll for head-to-heads Keep in mind that unless you are really following politics you have no idea what an unlikable a piece of poo poo Cruz is and how Trump is a misogynistic, lying, thin-skinned racist that is bad at business, all you know about Clinton is the email scandal and Benghazi. Sometimes it's hard to keep perspective because these days we self-segregate but the vast majority GE has no loving idea about anything about these candidates right now and won't for a few months.
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Mar 17, 2016 00:57
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I actually think the Trump vs Hillary GE polling is miles better than it would be if they weren't both well known public figures.
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Mar 17, 2016 00:59
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Three Olives posted:Keep in mind that unless you are really following politics you have no idea what an unlikable a piece of poo poo Cruz is and how Trump is a misogynistic lying, thin-skinned racist that is bad at business, all you know about Clinton is the email scandal and Benghazi. I would say the electorate actually know a lot about Hillary Clinton, including all of her personal issues, all of the lying, and all the details of her every scandal.
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GrimGypsy posted:MSNBC just showed a Pennsylvania GE poll for head-to-heads white """"""""moderate""""""" republicans do really well in head to heads until the actual election then whoopsies everything falls apart like a house of cards
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Three Olives posted:Keep in mind that unless you are really following politics you have no idea what an unlikable a piece of poo poo Cruz is and how Trump is a misogynistic lying, thin-skinned racist that is bad at business, all you know about Clinton is the email scandal and Benghazi. You're right about Cruz wrong on Trump, especially if you live in a state, or around a state, that has had a primary.
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Mar 17, 2016 00:59
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Trump and Hillary are the only polls if put any stock in at this point. They've been national figures for decades. Asking the people of Pennsylvania about John kasich in March is hilarious though.
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Mar 17, 2016 01:07
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Torka posted:How on earth can the American left still think that more scolding and sanctimony is the answer to Trump Nate is not the left if that's what you're implying.
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Mar 17, 2016 01:10
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GrimGypsy posted:BTW technically Impeaching a President doesn't remove them from office and I doubt Trump would humbly step down, but it is a dumb thing that will not happen. Impeachment is a two-step process. The first is for the House to vote about what to impeach the official for, and the second step is for the Senate to vote to remove the official from office. A successful vote in the Senate removes them from office. So both Johnson and Clinton had articles of impeachment passed by the the house, but in both cases the Senate didn't pass the vote to remove by the required 2/3rds majority.
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PA did just recently oust a really lovely GOP governor so maybe they are pining for one who did a somewhat better job next door. There's also a lot of hate for Toomey, which may have some people a little more 'aware' than usual(which means they're occasionally glancing at the news instead of just getting everything via facebook memes).
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lol http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/boehner-endorses-paul-ryan-for-president-220855 In the same question-and-answer session here, Boehner referred to Ted Cruz as "lucifer." He previously called the Texas senator, who led the failed Republican effort to shut down the government over Obamacare, a “jackass.”
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:lol Lollll
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Mar 17, 2016 01:16
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It's amazing how much cooler politicians become when they retire
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Trump eats steaks done to hockey pucks and cosplays the Fifth Doctor. gently caress this guy.
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More proof we're in the dark comedy universe.
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The left doesn't need to name call or be sanctimonious to defeat trump. They just need to show up and scare him out of showing up because protestors might exercise their right to free speech
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:lol "Boehner is also friendly with Trump. The business mogul was in the Capitol when Boehner awarded Jack Nicklaus with the congressional gold medal. Both good golfers, Boehner and Trump have hit the links together on several occasions." It always comes back to golf.
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zoux posted:Haha Kasich's got the hot hand now, and all he had to do was hang around. Kasich is looking pretty hot in Ohio! When's Ohio voting next? I bet he'll kill it!
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Montasque posted:"Boehner is also friendly with Trump. The business mogul was in the Capitol when Boehner awarded Jack Nicklaus with the congressional gold medal. Both good golfers, Boehner and Trump have hit the links together on several occasions." See, even Obama's golf sessions are valuable for networking with
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Slate Action posted:It's amazing how much cooler politicians become when they retire I've actually had a soft spot for John Boehner for several years now, on the basis that he's probably the person in America who hates the Republican Party more than any other. Boehner was an old-school corrupt machine pol who just wanted to take some lobbyist bribes, lead the good life, and eventually drink and smoke and tan himself into an early grave. Then he gets the job he wanted his entire career...but his caucus is now 1/3rd freshmen and they are, without exception, crazy assholes. Pretty soon Boehner's good life is under daily attack and the crazy assholes prevent him from enjoying any element of his life. John Boehner ends up in a bizarre position where he prefers to hang out with Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama than with his own caucus. He falls increasingly heavily into his alcoholism. Finally, he sees the Pope and decides "well, that's it for this loving job" and gets out of dodge even if it meant forcing Paul Ryan at gunpoint to take the poo poo job.
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Slate Action posted:It's amazing how much cooler politicians become when they retire Imagine what Lindsey Graham will transform into
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Brannock posted:Imagine what Lindsey Graham will transform into Think he'll finally come out of the closet? (I'm actually half-serious about that, there's no way he's straight)
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zoux posted:If Cruz had a viable #nevertrump movement going then I would expect that most of the reporting today would be about how conservatives are starting to move toward Cruz as their last resort and so on. I haven't seen a single story like that. How is anyone going to be running a story about Cruzmentum the day after he got shut out in 5 important primaries and had the angry yam triple his delegate lead on him? Mister Fister posted:Seems like Kaisich being in the race helps Cruz after his Ohio win? Otherwise wouldn't Trump most likely win with him being out? It doesn't help Cruz make 1237 going into the convention at all, quite the contrary, Kasich will just poach delegates that Cruz could use. It could tip some three way races in Cruz's favor, but the main effect will be to take delegates off the board from Trump by keeping him from 50% winner take all thresholds in some big states. Naturally it will have the same effect on Cruz. So I'm thinking the main effect is to keep Trump from reaching 1237, although I think Trump could very well do that with or without Kasich in the race at this point. I don't see how Cruz could possibly win the eighty percent or so of remaining delegates he'd need to get 1237 in the states he'd have to do it in. He'd have to have results like Trump had in IL and MO in every single primary pretty much, and the nature of Cruz's support locks him into smaller pockets of support. Trump is the one who has broad support across different congressional districts and states, not Cruz. Cruz's best case scenario at this point is to overtake Trump in delegates by the convention to have an argument to get the convention nod. I suspect even that is a pipe dream at this point. In terms of overall vote attracting ability Trump is by far the best candidate in the GOP race, hence his huge lead. Kasich might possibly be a better GE candidate but it remains to be seen what he can do now with a little publicity. Patter Song posted:(I am so glad I have documentary evidence going back to loving August in this thread that I saw this whole mess coming when everyone else said Trump will blow over...no one would believe me otherwise that I called this) Like most, I thought Trump would flame out but Joementum's idea that if Trump came out of Super Tuesday with the delegate lead that he'd probably be the nominee seemed reasonable. Once Trump had won New Hampshire and had giant polling leads in every southern state going into SC, I didn't see how he wasn't going to be the Candidate of the South (and everywhere else as it turns out), and, as I'd mentioned on the forums a few times, I thought it really weird how punditry only talked about how strong Cruz was going to be in the Bible thumping Southern states despite all objective evidence pointing to the Trumpocalypse. The weird thing with Nate Silver was how he made his rep going strictly off polling numbers and eschewing pundit tea leaf reading. Then in this race he threw all that out the window to chase after all kinds of tea leaves and conventional wisdom that flew in the face of what the numbers were telling all of us. Now Trump is going to show up in Cleveland with a torch wielding mob for a delegation. Trump: This is an awfully nice convention you got here. It would be a shame if something were to, you know.. *elbows porcelain elephant off table onto floor where it shatters* ... HAPPEN to it.
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Brannock posted:Imagine what Lindsey Graham will transform into I imagine he'll be very cool. And gay. Ex-president Obama will be the coolest motherfucker on the planet.
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Slate Action posted:I imagine he'll be very cool. And gay. I like that Obama will be around DC for a couple more years after he leaves office because the mere sight of him will drive the crazies into apoplexy.
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Slate Action posted:I imagine he'll be very cool. And gay. Oh good God, there's going to be so much dirty laundry dished out after next January. 
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GrimGypsy posted:MSNBC just showed a Pennsylvania GE poll for head-to-heads It's a Mercyhurst University poll. The school has been trying to build a reputation for itself in PA and OH politics for a while. http://www.mercyhurst.edu/sites/def...report_edit.pdf I don't know enough about polling to make a value assessment of its worth
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GrimGypsy posted:MSNBC just showed a Pennsylvania GE poll for head-to-heads Kasich is still "generic Rebublican" to most people answering polls. Nonexistent generic candidates always go over better than flesh-and-blood people with pasts and flaws.
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Venom Snake posted:if you want to be this retardedly pedantic she is running on a mild left of center platform. and her being to the left of the average democrat during her time in the senate is something that you can look up with like a 10 second google search. She should move her platform a few inches back to the right, or it will look very aesthetically unpleasing!
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Brannock posted:Imagine what Lindsey Graham will transform into an openly gay man?
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As much as anyone in PA knows who Kasich is, they know he has PA roots. He still carries that western PA accent, too. It's virtually another home state for him and isn't an indicator of how he'd perform in IA, WI, or any other Midwestern blue state the GOP tries to convince itself is in play every cycle.
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skaboomizzy posted:As much as anyone in PA knows who Kasich is, they know he has PA roots. He still carries that western PA accent, too. It's virtually another home state for him and isn't an indicator of how he'd perform in IA, WI, or any other Midwestern blue state the GOP tries to convince itself is in play every cycle. He's also a Steelers fan.
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Joementum posted:He's also a Steelers fan. What a total piece of poo poo human.
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Patter Song posted:Finally, he sees the Pope and decides "well, that's it for this loving job" and gets out of dodge even if it meant forcing Paul Ryan at gunpoint to take the poo poo job. Paul Ryan seems to have a habit of being guilt tripped into doing the least wanted jobs in D.C. First he has to be second banana to the least charismatic presidential candidate of our time  Then he gets roped into being the House punching bag by the 30 or 40 crazies in the GOP caucus. Now they can't wait to make them the sacrificial lamb to Hillary in a brokered convention where 40% of republican voters will actively hate his guts for ratfucking their messiah, and the other 60% will be lukewarm towards him at best. I was really hoping when Boehner resigned that Ryan would tell the party elders "gently caress off, I like being chair of ways and means, find someone else to wrangle your people"
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