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Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

As seen in the meme thread of all places, have some hi-res pen porn.

http://i.imgur.com/xDSolNh.mp4

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GoodBee
Apr 8, 2004


I just got in some cheap rear end Chinese pens from Amazon. I don't even remember what I ordered. I'm about to ink them up. Hope they don't leak everywhere! I've got a Bay State Blue sample I want to use but I'm not sure any of these three pens won't just explode ink everywhere.

I ordered some more ink samples from Goulet today also. I'm not a huge fan of the Lamy Red I bought but it's kind of growing on me. I decided I want green in my Lamy Safari, a purple in one Metro, Kon-Peki in my other Metro, a dark red in one pen, then I've got three more pens to play with.

Do I have a problem?

Obligatory Toast
Mar 19, 2007

What am I reading here??

Powered Descent posted:

As seen in the meme thread of all places, have some hi-res pen porn.

http://i.imgur.com/xDSolNh.mp4

Mm yesssss

GoodBee posted:

I just got in some cheap rear end Chinese pens from Amazon. I don't even remember what I ordered. I'm about to ink them up. Hope they don't leak everywhere! I've got a Bay State Blue sample I want to use but I'm not sure any of these three pens won't just explode ink everywhere.

I ordered some more ink samples from Goulet today also. I'm not a huge fan of the Lamy Red I bought but it's kind of growing on me. I decided I want green in my Lamy Safari, a purple in one Metro, Kon-Peki in my other Metro, a dark red in one pen, then I've got three more pens to play with.

Do I have a problem?

If you do then I do, and I do NOT have a loving problem it's everybody else that has a problem.

Btw, my bro got me Yama budo for my birthday and it's the purple I never knew I needed in my life

GoodBee
Apr 8, 2004


Obligatory Toast posted:

Btw, my bro got me Yama budo for my birthday and it's the purple I never knew I needed in my life

Hmm. Not in my sample pack. I may need to remedy this in the future.

I just noticed one of the purple samples was an iron gall. What's up with those? Safe in a Metro or should I just save it for my dip pen? I know there's something to watch out for with iron galls, I just never paid attention.

NeurosisHead
Jul 22, 2007

NONONONONONONONONO

GoodBee posted:

Hmm. Not in my sample pack. I may need to remedy this in the future.

I just noticed one of the purple samples was an iron gall. What's up with those? Safe in a Metro or should I just save it for my dip pen? I know there's something to watch out for with iron galls, I just never paid attention.

R&K iron galls typically are fine, provided you don't let it sit for a month without writing so it can eat up the plastic. Some other boutique brands make iron gall inks that are significantly more acidic and will fairly quickly trash plastic feeds.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Powered Descent posted:

As seen in the meme thread of all places, have some hi-res pen porn.

http://i.imgur.com/xDSolNh.mp4

As a left-handed person, :smith:

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

NeurosisHead posted:

R&K iron galls typically are fine, provided you don't let it sit for a month without writing so it can eat up the plastic. Some other boutique brands make iron gall inks that are significantly more acidic and will fairly quickly trash plastic feeds.

Will eat steel nibs if left alone for months, what with it being somewhat acidic. Just had it happen to a Pilot Prera with R&K Scabiosa I forgot about for half a year.

The_Angry_Turtle
Aug 2, 2007

BLARGH
I really want a twsbi 580AL in blue but they ain't available anywhere. Make more you bastards.

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

The_Angry_Turtle posted:

I really want a twsbi 580AL in blue but they ain't available anywhere. Make more you bastards.

That's a bummer, I love my orange one. Haven't had any of the TWSBI problems with it, either.

atholbrose
Feb 28, 2001

Splish!

Holy cow. I just saw a picture of a Visconti Divina in the silver stacked celluloid from the Wall Street. (Here's the full article, with other pictures of pens from Baselworld.) Oh, man, is it pretty. I just bought a Wall Street not two weeks ago -- right now, it's off with Mike Masuyama for adjustments -- but now I want this one too. Sigh. Just when I was thinking, well, there's nothing out there I'm really lusting after any more.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
Are you having a custom grind done or did the nib show up in that bad shape?

Solumin
Jan 11, 2013
Welp, my bottle of Borealis Black is finally starting to run low. It's the only ink I have.

Time to go order a dozen samples from Goulet!

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

Remember to always be Yama-Budoing

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

I emptied my 4.5oz bottle of heart of darkness! Into an empty iroshizuku bottle, but still, that's progress.

atholbrose
Feb 28, 2001

Splish!

grack posted:

Are you having a custom grind done or did the nib show up in that bad shape?

It's one of the original Wall Streets, with a gold nib, and the feed just can't keep up with writing for any length of time. I bought it at my local pen store (Appointments in Cincinnati), and they sent it off to Mike for an inspection after I discovered the issue. Hopefully he can adjust the feed, tune the nib, and return it to me as a gorgeous writer; it was very, very nice when I was dip-testing it at the store, so I know what it should be like. I've had my eye on it for years, and am happy to have taken the plunge, even if I'm in for a bit of delayed satisfaction.

There's a reason I shop at Appointments whenever I can; their customer service is second to none. And that's good, because I have had rotten luck with 3 of the last 4 big pens I bought. 2 of them are perfect now, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the third. (And then I have to stop with the expensive pens until next year. No, seriously. No, really, I'm going to take a break.)

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

atholbrose posted:

It's one of the original Wall Streets, with a gold nib, and the feed just can't keep up with writing for any length of time.

Just my opinion but I would be tremendously pissed if I dropped that much money on a fountain pen and it failed the very basic test of "being a functional pen".

atholbrose
Feb 28, 2001

Splish!

grack posted:

Just my opinion but I would be tremendously pissed if I dropped that much money on a fountain pen and it failed the very basic test of "being a functional pen".
I took it back to the retailer where I bought it, and they're making it right, on their dime, so I'm not really upset. Yeah, okay, I'm disappointed, but based on another pen I had adjusted by Mike, it's going to be dreamy when it gets back to me. I bought one of the other pens with issues there as well, a Graf von Faber-Castell Intuition, and that was fixed with an in-store nib swap and a little bit of polishing; and while I had major problems with an Omas Ogiva bought from nibs.com (ink leaking behind the piston seal, piston freezes in two separate bodies), they treated me right through the whole process, and I really like the celluloid 3776 I eventually exchanged it for.

NeurosisHead
Jul 22, 2007

NONONONONONONONONO

atholbrose posted:

I took it back to the retailer where I bought it, and they're making it right, on their dime, so I'm not really upset. Yeah, okay, I'm disappointed, but based on another pen I had adjusted by Mike, it's going to be dreamy when it gets back to me. I bought one of the other pens with issues there as well, a Graf von Faber-Castell Intuition, and that was fixed with an in-store nib swap and a little bit of polishing; and while I had major problems with an Omas Ogiva bought from nibs.com (ink leaking behind the piston seal, piston freezes in two separate bodies), they treated me right through the whole process, and I really like the celluloid 3776 I eventually exchanged it for.

I really, really like the aesthetics of some of the pens I can't justify spending money on. But they are plagued with their own chronic QC issues around writing quality. Sure, TWSBI might use lovely plastic in their $50 pen, but for $2 and 3 days of shipping time they'll send you a new part - if they charge at all. With the luxury brands you spend >$600 on a pen, and then spend another what, $50-ish to have it tuned by a third party to get it even functional? That's endlessly frustrating.

They are fuckin' pretty though.

pienipple
Mar 20, 2009

That's wrong!
Yeah I can't justify to myself buying a pen that's like $200+ that doesn't write at least as well as a $15 Metro out of the box.

Getting a vintage pen that needs restoration or a cheap Chinese or Indian pen that I expect to tinker with is different, if it's brand new and high priced it should work.

Everything Burrito
Jun 2, 2011

I Failed At Anime 2022
Does the average rich person who buys a really high-end pen even use them or are they more like decor anyway? Seems like if they were actually getting put to use there would be more static from the consumers about having quality control issues for something so expensive.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

I can't even imagine using one of those gaudy, diamond encrusted, gently caress-off expensive monstrosities. They look so uncomfortable to hold.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

NeurosisHead posted:

I really, really like the aesthetics of some of the pens I can't justify spending money on. But they are plagued with their own chronic QC issues around writing quality. Sure, TWSBI might use lovely plastic in their $50 pen, but for $2 and 3 days of shipping time they'll send you a new part - if they charge at all. With the luxury brands you spend >$600 on a pen, and then spend another what, $50-ish to have it tuned by a third party to get it even functional? That's endlessly frustrating.

They are fuckin' pretty though.


Maybe it's Visconti's new brand strategy: Really pretty pens that don't actually write.

grack fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Mar 29, 2016

GoodBee
Apr 8, 2004


My two $7 Chinese pens I got from Amazon are really dreamy to write with so far. I haven't used either for very long (holiday plus I forgot all my pens at home today) so it remains to be seen how they hold up. The $2-and-some-change one seems like complete garbage though. It may have had some water in it from rinsing it out first.

I just got some ink samples from Goulet today so I'm going to need to use up my ink so I can change colors.

Kessel
Mar 6, 2007

Everything Burrito posted:

Does the average rich person who buys a really high-end pen even use them or are they more like decor anyway? Seems like if they were actually getting put to use there would be more static from the consumers about having quality control issues for something so expensive.

At the local pen meets I see two crowds. One crowd is obsessed with handwriting and writing in general, and spends on everything from cheap calligraphy nib holders to two-thousand-dollar Sailor pens with exotic hand-ground nibs. Most of the high-end pens in this crowd will be Japanese, and those tend to have very few QC issues.

The other crowd is basically housewives and bankers sitting in the middle of the room jerking each other off over gold-bodied, diamond-encrusted garbage. Nobody knows if there's QC issues on these mostly-European babies because half of them have never been inked up.

DigitalRaven
Oct 9, 2012




Am I weird for finding the Parker Vector — the same cheap poo poo fountain pen I was using in high school — to be a really nice writer? It glides on pretty much any paper, when even the Pilot Metro will feel scratchy.

NeurosisHead
Jul 22, 2007

NONONONONONONONONO
Guys my screw lathe should be here by the middle of next week. What style of pen should I try to make first?

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

DigitalRaven posted:

Am I weird for finding the Parker Vector — the same cheap poo poo fountain pen I was using in high school — to be a really nice writer? It glides on pretty much any paper, when even the Pilot Metro will feel scratchy.

Not at all. One of the smoothest out of box nibs I own is a Pelikan Happy Pen, and it cost me $12 including a 6 pack of cartridges. The cheap stuff can really surprise you.

NeurosisHead
Jul 22, 2007

NONONONONONONONONO

grack posted:

Not at all. One of the smoothest out of box nibs I own is a Pelikan Happy Pen, and it cost me $12 including a 6 pack of cartridges. The cheap stuff can really surprise you.

I've still got an eyedropper Preppy that came with a big bottle of Noodler's years ago that writes like a dream.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
On the other hand sometimes a pen is cheap because the company clearly hired someone's drunk cousin to do quality control. Got a Schmidt Intrinsic in today and the nib was staggeringly awful. So bad, in fact, that I gave up adjusting it and just replaced the nib with a spare.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!
I bet it's the difference between "let's build the cheapest pen possible no matter how poo poo" and "given our high quality standards and advanced tooling what's the best way to make pen production cheaper and more automated for a user grade pen without diamonds and gold clips and poo poo"

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

My celluloid 3776 showed up today :woop:



I haven't inked it up yet, and probably won't until my order of Bung Box shows up, and I think the cap is a little too big in proportion to the barrel, but that material :allears:

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Nice GI bleed marbling there.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
Well that's an exceptionally unpleasant description


Also, finally went and bought a Pilot Metro and the nib shows up in basically unusable shape. A first for a Pilot pen for me.

venus de lmao
Apr 30, 2007

Call me "pixeltits"

Finally bought a Pilot Metropolitan and it's by far the cheapest nice pen (or the nicest cheap pen) I've ever owned.

GoodBee
Apr 8, 2004


I threw away my $2 Chinese pen the other day. It was unusable and not worth any more effort than tossing it in the trash.

I still like my $7 dollar pens. They've got little hoods (?) over the nibs so I don't get ink on my fingers. I sometimes get that from my Metros. I quit using my Noodler's entirely. I love my Safari but I've decided that green ink goes there so I don't use it as much at work.

Solumin
Jan 11, 2013
I ordered a bunch of blue ink samplers and they arrived today! :toot:

Had to clean out my Metro to use them. First one up is Noodler's Liberty's Elysium, which is very pretty. I also picked up J. Herbin Eclat de Saphir, Diamine Blue Velvet and De Atramentis Indigo Blue thanks to this thread's recommendations, plus a sample of Noodler's 54th Massachusetts.

Fun times! :wooper:

GoodBee
Apr 8, 2004


Solumin posted:

J. Herbin Eclat de Saphir

I really liked this one.

Remora
Aug 15, 2010

GoodBee posted:

I threw away my $2 Chinese pen the other day. It was unusable and not worth any more effort than tossing it in the trash.

If the problem was nib-related, next time stuff a real nib in it and try it that way before you chuck it.

GoodBee
Apr 8, 2004


Remora posted:

If the problem was nib-related, next time stuff a real nib in it and try it that way before you chuck it.

Wouldn't a real nib be more expensive than the pen? Plus it seemed like it had a weird bend in it near the end and it wasn't anything special looking.

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Remora
Aug 15, 2010

GoodBee posted:

Wouldn't a real nib be more expensive than the pen? Plus it seemed like it had a weird bend in it near the end and it wasn't anything special looking.

Think of the pen as a $2 nib holder with a free feed.

Edit: I mean if the pen sucked to hold, that's different, but if it just sucked to write with on account of the nib...

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