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the truth posted:A quick Google search reveals that cero z is basically the ESRB equivalent of "M," with the stipulation that the main reason for the restriction is violence. Right, I googled it, I just wasn't sure. Thinking aloud, I wonder why the ESRB makes a separate distinction for AO? Apart from the incredibly few games that get published with an AO and released in America have explicit sexual content, if it condemns the game to not getting any sales why even bother? Why use it as a cudgel here to produce games that fit within an M rating?
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Sigma's eye and arms are definitely going to be cut off, so I guess we'll see! Both scenes involve arm injuries, too. 
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Mar 26, 2016 05:47
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Both scenes involve arm injuries, too. I'm almost wondering if it was intentional to pose that scene that way. Joke prediction: the trap will involve literally bringing Clover back to cut someone's arms off with a fire axe.
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Mar 26, 2016 11:59
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Joke prediction: the trap will involve literally bringing Clover back to cut someone's arms off with a fire axe. Schrodinger's cat! 
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Mar 26, 2016 14:19
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Schrodinger's cat! Sigma utilizes Schroedinger's theorem to gain ghost arms to punch out Zero because his arms simultaneously exist and do not exist in a quantum state.
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Mar 26, 2016 16:44
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The background for the game looks really interesting, but I hope it doesn't become too much of a resolution dump, nor a "fan revenge" thing along the lines of the Evangelion films.. I have no idea why it'd be that given that he seems to be grateful for the encouragement to do another game, but all of the text about how much "more miserable" the game is going to be that VLR is kind of worrying. And I'm not at all sure about the randomness business, either - is that going to mean a bunch of saves and reloads?
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Mar 26, 2016 23:51
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Zero Time Dilemma looks to be the dark middle chapter of the series, except at the end (only not because of time shenanigans). Uchikoshi's a pretty transparent optimist though so no matter how dark it gets there should be some light at the end of the tunnel.
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Mar 26, 2016 23:57
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Bad Seafood posted:Zero Time Dilemma looks to be the dark middle chapter of the series, except at the end (only not because of time shenanigans). Well yeah, since we're going to be wrapping up everything, there's probably gonna be that happy ending. We're just gonna have to work for it.
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Mar 27, 2016 00:02
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Bad Seafood posted:Zero Time Dilemma looks to be the dark middle chapter of the series, except at the end (only not because of time shenanigans). Thank God he's not Yoko Taro.
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Mar 27, 2016 00:10
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I had someone ask me if ZTD was a sequel or a prequel and I honestly still don't have an answer for them
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Mar 27, 2016 00:25
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Danaru posted:I had someone ask me if ZTD was a sequel or a prequel and I honestly still don't have an answer for them Borderlands taught me that these things are presequels.
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Mar 27, 2016 00:29
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Danaru posted:I had someone ask me if ZTD was a sequel or a prequel and I honestly still don't have an answer for them
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Mar 27, 2016 00:38
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Right, I googled it, I just wasn't sure. the exact same reason NC17 exists for movies. its their way of saying "drat dude this shiz is beyond even a R rating so we should callit something, unlike the days where we just refused to call it anything"
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A little late, but for reference on what's considered CERO-Z, here's a photo I took yesterday of part of that shelf at a Book Off: (Not pictured but also on the same shelf, Tomb Raider, Dishonored, Shadow of Mordor, Assassin's Creed) Also for your consideration on the different age restriction priorities of both countries, games like Conception 2 and Akiba's Trip are both CERO-C (15 and up) in Japan and M in America. Gal Gun got a CERO-D (17 and up), but probably only because the main gameplay mechanic uses gun imagery.
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orenronen posted:A little late, but for reference on what's considered CERO-Z, here's a photo I took yesterday of part of that shelf at a Book Off: This made me realize the game will most likely be rated 18+ in Europe. All of those titles that I could make out are rated 18+ over here since, like in Japan, the highest rating is pretty much reserved for violence. Though with ZTD being digital only I don't think it really matters. I'm not sure if the rating even actually require ID here, or if it's just something that is suggested to Game stores. All I know is that it was really annoying being into survival horror games as a teenager since I had to ask my mom to buy my games for me.
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Hah, that reminds me of when the WiiU first came out and you could only buy 18 rated games on the eShop between like 11pm and 6am everywhere in the EU because of some law in Germany.
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Mar 27, 2016 16:23
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I wonder if there will be a way for Sigma to tell Junpei "Oh hey, by the way the girl you're looking for is going to be on the moon setting up another Nonary Game to avert the apocalypse, don't bother looking for her." That'd really save Junpei a lot of time and effort, I think. E: Joke Speculation: the dog is actually possessed by a new person inhabiting their consciousness through Morphogenetic Field swapping as a double agent set up to betray Zero at a key moment. Meanwhile their real body is inhabited by a dog mind and locked up at a mental hospital for barking at random people and peeing on fire hydrants. Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Mar 28, 2016 |
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:E: Joke Speculation: the dog is actually possessed by a new person inhabiting their consciousness through Morphogenetic Field swapping as a double agent set up to betray Zero at a key moment. Meanwhile their real body is inhabited by a dog mind and locked up at a mental hospital for barking at random people and peeing on fire hydrants. Thanks for spoiling the plot twist. 
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Mar 28, 2016 02:07
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Thanks for spoiling the plot twist. I'll laugh my loving rear end off if that's the actual plot twist.
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Mar 28, 2016 03:06
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:I'll laugh my loving rear end off if that's the actual plot twist. I'm fully expecting someone to mind-jump into the dog at some point. However, having the dog be Zero or Brother would just be silly. Just for the laughs, requesting a title change to "Zero Escape: Zero Time Dilemma - The dog was Zero all along (June 28)"
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Mar 28, 2016 03:22
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:I wonder if there will be a way for Sigma to tell Junpei "Oh hey, by the way the girl you're looking for is going to be on the moon setting up another Nonary Game to avert the apocalypse, don't bother looking for her." this seems unnecessary as she appears to be about three feet from him
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curiousCat posted:this seems unnecessary as she appears to be about three feet from him That's true, but why does Junpei end up chasing her for years on end then? Is this a retcon from 999/VLR's events?
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Mar 28, 2016 03:37
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Well we already know that the new bracelets have memory erasing powers. Maybe he only ever runs into her during this Nonary game so afterwards he doesnt even realize he found her.
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Mar 28, 2016 03:51
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Keep in mind that the entire point of VLR was that we're going back in time to change history. It's not supposed to be a consistent time loop. If things end up the same way then we'll have already failed.
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Mar 28, 2016 04:00
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Clarste posted:Keep in mind that the entire point of VLR was that we're going back in time to change history. It's not supposed to be a consistent time loop. If things end up the same way then we'll have already failed. After every bad ending in ZTD, replay the entirety of VLR to keep the loop closed
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Danaru posted:After every bad ending in ZTD, replay the entirety of VLR to keep the loop closed 500 hours later...
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I just hope it doesn't end up being some kind of meta-thing about the game being made, like Zero is the combination of a couple of hundred Blick Winkels who all wanted to stop Radical-6 and who created a nonary game-like experience there because that was what they demanded in order to appear in the world at that time..
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Mar 28, 2016 19:27
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Woah fella! mark your spoilers, drat!
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Only tangentially related to Zero Escape, but there's an online directory of active real-life room escape games done live found below. Quoting because on phone and  :Na'at posted:I had no idea this was such a thing Seriously wish I could attend the official Zero Escape room escape in LA this Spring, though. 
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Mar 29, 2016 07:33
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I seriously can't wait for this game.
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HelloWinter posted:I seriously can't wait for this game. That was my favorite little bit of info from what we've seen so far. I'm glad they're still gonna goof on each other like that in this game. Lord knows were gonna need the comic relief.
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Mar 29, 2016 21:18
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The twist will be that both VLR and ZTD were an elaborate hoax created in order for Sigma to be freed from cat puns.
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Mar 29, 2016 21:25
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Raxivace posted:The twist will be that both VLR and ZTD were an elaborate hoax created in order for Sigma to be freed from cat puns. Has it ever been stated as to why Sigma was so prone to doing cat puns, almost as if he couldn't help it? Or was that him just being goofy.
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One of the files in VLR says he was cursed by a cat spirit as a child, I think.
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HelloWinter posted:Has it ever been stated as to why Sigma was so prone to doing cat puns, almost as if he couldn't help it? Or was that him just being goofy. There's a secret doc in VLR that explains it.
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Mar 29, 2016 21:29
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Also of course in Japanese it was just a less interesting -nya verbal tic.
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HelloWinter posted:I seriously can't wait for this game. Pixar meets Saw? Also, please add to the OP!
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Pixar meets Saw? Also, please add to the OP! Oh god. I'm imagining some twisted version of the flashback scenes from Up.
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Gutcruncher posted:Well we already know that the new bracelets have memory erasing powers. Maybe he only ever runs into her during this Nonary game so afterwards he doesnt even realize he found her. That would be pretty depressing and sad in retrospect. 
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