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Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
Wait if she's a lawyer why did she misuse "slander"?

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Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
oh nm she's just some student in college which makes her more reliable for not being a lawyer but less reliable cuz she might just be attention whoring

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



never trust a fuckin lawyer

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



college girls post that they're done with secrets like 3 times a day

RACHET
Dec 29, 2014

by exmarx
I want to believe

No Mans Land
Feb 26, 2016

by Cowcaster
Btw bernie supporters posting incessantly in this thread -- the real way to get free health care and state university education across the entire country is on a state by state level, not on the federal level. Look to MA (my home state) for inspiration (not that state college is free but it is cheap). I said this in the democrat thread too. Hth with your crusade going forward

the paradigm shift
Jan 18, 2006


You mean when he was leveraging everything he had to pass the ACA with the blue dogs? Those same conservative dems who nuked all talk about closing Gitmo and dealing with the detainees? Sure that falls squarely on Obama somehow and means he hasn't tried a thing until now. Instead of having gotten the detainee count down as far as he could manage without being allowed to bring any of them stateside.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

No Mans Land posted:

Btw bernie supporters posting incessantly in this thread -- the real way to get free health care and state university education across the entire country is on a state by state level, not on the federal level. I said this in the democrat thread too. Hth with your crusade going forward

Take it to the Democrat thread please.

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
yeah stop posting this poo poo guys at least verify that the source isn't some chick who probably tweeted this poo poo while wasted and/or high

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
Alright the high's wearing off and I'm starting to think this random 19-year-old may not have hosed Cruz.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



basic bitches gonna break yo heart

Fidel Castronaut
Dec 25, 2004

Houston, we're Havana problem.

No Mans Land posted:

I did not say "i don't care what a person says, only what they do". I made a comparison, a ranking of priorities. Aren't you a PHD candidate?

Edit - say and do

"I judge someone far more on their actions than their words and so I don't see a reason to think Trump thinks less of women professionally. In fact once he said that one good woman in the office is better than 10 men, although on average they are less effective than men he also said."

If you don't see the irony in downplaying the importance of a person's words and then immediately using that person's words to defend your position, then you and I simply will not be hanging out at the Cracker Barrel together. (I figure you're not 21 so we should keep it wholesome.)

Chicken fried chicken.

PhD student, bee tee wuvs. You're a candidate after you finish your exams and enter into the dissertating stage of your program, in which nobody ever sees you again.

No Mans Land
Feb 26, 2016

by Cowcaster

the_paradigm_shift posted:

You mean when he was leveraging everything he had to pass the ACA with the blue dogs? Those same conservative dems who nuked all talk about closing Gitmo and dealing with the detainees? Sure that falls squarely on Obama somehow and means he hasn't tried a thing until now. Instead of having gotten the detainee count down as far as he could manage without being allowed to bring any of them stateside.

And yet he promised that he'd close it, as if it didn't serve a purpose.

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

Typo posted:

she's a lawyer so she's probably not lying ^.^

Where's it say she's a lawyer?

the paradigm shift
Jan 18, 2006

No Mans Land posted:

And yet he promised that he'd close it, as if it didn't serve a purpose.

sore loser

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Trump's also being sued for gender discrimination from a former campaign employee as well

It's amazing that the man is currently involved in like 10 prosecutions against him and Clinton, who is not accused of a single thing, is being described as untrustworthy and underhanded

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Typo posted:

oh nm she's just some student in college which makes her more reliable for not being a lawyer but less reliable cuz she might just be attention whoring

I'm going with the latter. I really doubt she banged Ted Cruz.

Ork of Fiction
Jul 22, 2013

quadrophrenic posted:

mods please wordfilter this entire paragraph to "b-b-b-b-b-but b-but but"

You computer was assembled by people who would be imprisoned as dissidents if they agitated for better hours or wages.

You support slavery if you don't smash your computer immediately.

In fact most everything you own was made by modern day slaves.
Why aren't you railing against this right now? If you would be perfect then, why aren't you perfect now?

e: i don't mean to attack you. sorry. we're all victims of the indignities of our age. it's just a platitude to say "if i was in charge back then, i would have upheld our values and our safety and we would all live happily ever after." that question is meaningless. with internment, we can only know what we did, not what we prevented. whether it denied japanese spies a potential support network, or kept families safe from possible lynch mob assaults, we don't know. the easy, feel-good answer is dogshit to make people feel righteous. no one is righteous. jesus said that. happy easter.

Ork of Fiction fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Mar 28, 2016

No Mans Land
Feb 26, 2016

by Cowcaster

Fidel Castronaut posted:

"I judge someone far more on their actions than their words and so I don't see a reason to think Trump thinks less of women professionally. In fact once he said that one good woman in the office is better than 10 men, although on average they are less effective than men he also said."

If you don't see the irony in downplaying the importance of a person's words and then immediately using that person's words to defend your position, then you and I simply will not be hanging out at the Cracker Barrel together. (I figure you're not 21 so we should keep it wholesome.)

Chicken fried chicken.

PhD student, bee tee wuvs. You're a candidate after you finish your exams and enter into the dissertating stage of your program, in which nobody ever sees you again.

Sorry man i just dont see how youve caught me here.

the paradigm shift
Jan 18, 2006

No Mans Land posted:

And yet he promised that he'd close it, as if it didn't serve a purpose.

Did you really just go from Obama should close gitmo to it serves a purpose? smh

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
this is the beauty of sex scandals it's pretty much impossible to disprove something happened until a year has passed or something

even grrm understood this in ASOIAF where cersei just accused Margery of whoring around and they have to have a trial by the faith or something even though there's like 0 evidence anything happened

Trumps Baby Hands
Mar 27, 2016

Silent white light filled the world. And the righteous and unrighteous alike were consumed in that holy fire.

RACHET posted:

I want to believe

Then cite your sources brah. Did you find her tweets through some repub-insider blog thing or are you just scouring Twitter for the inevitable first high-end DC escort that decided to blow up her life for the chance at being a Fox News sex columnist once the smoke clears?

RACHET
Dec 29, 2014

by exmarx

Trumps Baby Hands posted:

Then cite your sources brah. Did you find her tweets through some repub-insider blog thing or are you just scouring Twitter for the inevitable first high-end DC escort that decided to blow up her life for the chance at being a Fox News sex columnist once the smoke clears?

Latter, and it's to get s vivid video offer

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Typo posted:

this is the beauty of sex scandals it's pretty much impossible to disprove something happened until a year has passed or something

even grrm understood this in ASOIAF where cersei just accused Margery of whoring around and they have to have a trial by the faith or something even though there's like 0 evidence anything happened

It's gonna own when Cruz has to walk the length of the national mall nude and pelted by rotten fruit.

kissekatt
Apr 20, 2005

I have tasted the fruit.

uncurable mlady posted:

he's got donald's hands
He'll grow out of it.

Fidel Castronaut
Dec 25, 2004

Houston, we're Havana problem.

No Mans Land posted:

Sorry man i just dont see how youve caught me here.

I don't want to recap the whole thing but you were confronted with an ad where people (you were fixated on them being actors as if that somehow changes the content) simply state the words Trump has used about women in the past. These words are sexist. You eventually admitted as much, after so many backpedals and goal-post shiftings.

In the end, you confessed (by implication) that we should pay attention to the words of a person whose job is to say stuff to persuade people to vote for him. The words are almost all that matter in a political campaign and you were stupidly trying to downplay the things he said because, as you later admitted, the things he said were sexist.

You like biscuits and gravy? they have "sawmill gravy" at the Cracker Barrel. No idea what that is. Makes me think there's going to be pieces of wood in my gravy. But then, who cares since there's wood pulp in our food these days. What a world, No Man Is World.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Trumps Baby Hands posted:

Then cite your sources brah. Did you find her tweets through some repub-insider blog thing or are you just scouring Twitter for the inevitable first high-end DC escort that decided to blow up her life for the chance at being a Fox News sex columnist once the smoke clears?

So she's an escort for sure? Not some random college student?

I'm confused.

No Mans Land
Feb 26, 2016

by Cowcaster

the_paradigm_shift posted:

Did you really just go from Obama should close gitmo to it serves a purpose? smh

No i said the criticisms about Trump's talk about muslim extremists comes from people who support a political party that have paid lip service to stopping the largest abuses of power that they accuse the others of. And in fact these abuses of power are only uses of power and are necessary for the entire fight against the extremists, if one is going to happen at all. Its like a good cop bad cop routine but theyre arguing with each other instead of interrogating.

Fidel Castronaut posted:

I don't want to recap the whole thing but you were confronted with an ad where people (you were fixated on them being actors as if that somehow changes the content) simply state the words Trump has used about women in the past. These words are sexist. You eventually admitted as much, after so many backpedals and goal-post shiftings.

In the end, you confessed (by implication) that we should pay attention to the words of a person whose job is to say stuff to persuade people to vote for him. The words are almost all that matter in a political campaign and you were stupidly trying to downplay the things he said because, as you later admitted, the things he said were sexist.

You like biscuits and gravy? they have "sawmill gravy" at the Cracker Barrel. No idea what that is. Makes me think there's going to be pieces of wood in my gravy. But then, who cares since there's wood pulp in our food these days. What a world, No Man Is World.

The actors were misdirection and propaganda. They had nothing to do with the words said. My entire argument was if Trump was effectively sexist, like if he ever prevented female employees from being anything other than secretaries. These points were ignored in favor of the above. Sexist has become such an all encompassing word that its hard to talk about the issue without stepping on minefields everywhere. Its like, so he makes a few off color comments, so what? How do they harm women as a whole? Are women as a whole that weak, so easily offended? Its about power, trying to gain an advantage, claiming offense. Trump has never marginalized someone based solely on sex. Competence has been far more important to him and he's never said otherwise.

No Mans Land fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Mar 28, 2016

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Fidel Castronaut posted:

I don't want to recap the whole thing but you were confronted with an ad where people (you were fixated on them being actors as if that somehow changes the content) simply state the words Trump has used about women in the past. These words are sexist. You eventually admitted as much, after so many backpedals and goal-post shiftings.

In the end, you confessed (by implication) that we should pay attention to the words of a person whose job is to say stuff to persuade people to vote for him. The words are almost all that matter in a political campaign and you were stupidly trying to downplay the things he said because, as you later admitted, the things he said were sexist.

You like biscuits and gravy? they have "sawmill gravy" at the Cracker Barrel. No idea what that is. Makes me think there's going to be pieces of wood in my gravy. But then, who cares since there's wood pulp in our food these days. What a world, No Man Is World.

Sorry about your effortposting but I don't think you're gonna make headway on this one with your epic logical fallacies and truth bombs.

Trumps Baby Hands
Mar 27, 2016

Silent white light filled the world. And the righteous and unrighteous alike were consumed in that holy fire.

FuzzySkinner posted:

So she's an escort for sure? Not some random college student?

I'm confused.

Sorry dude, not trying to confuse you. This young lady seems to be a nobody college student from Pitsburg.

iirc the National Enquirer story mentioned that at least one of the affairs were with a sex worker, and historically that individual would be the most likely to speak out for attention (vs. staffers).

Fidel Castronaut
Dec 25, 2004

Houston, we're Havana problem.

Bip Roberts posted:

Sorry about your effortposting but I don't think you're gonna make headway on this one with your epic logical fallacies and truth bombs.

Who is this? No Man Is Land, who is this trying to get in on our little game of checkers on top of an authentic wooden barrel while we wait for our number to be called at the Cracker Barrel? Is he with you?

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011
if this cruz sex scandal thing is true, i'll stop being an atheist

the paradigm shift
Jan 18, 2006

No Mans Land posted:

No i said the criticisms about Trump's talk about muslim extremists comes from people who support a political party that have paid lip service to stopping the largest abuses of power that they accuse the others of. And in fact these abuses of power are only uses of power and are necessary for the entire fight against the extremists, if one is going to happen at all. Its like a good cop bad cop routine but theyre arguing with each other instead of interrogating.

The people preventing it is the conservatives in Congress. Blue dogs didn't play because they were worried about primaries and then tea partiers passed laws making it impossible for Obama to do anything that wouldn't end in impeachment proceedings. So get lost with you lip service bullshit

RACHET
Dec 29, 2014

by exmarx
Ted Cruz is gonna be the new Tiger Woods.

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

RACHET posted:

Ted Cruz is gonna be the new Tiger Woods.

Like he could hold onto Ambien and not have Ben Carson steal it all.

Fidel Castronaut
Dec 25, 2004

Houston, we're Havana problem.

FourLeaf posted:

if this cruz sex scandal thing is true, i'll stop being an atheist

easter miracle right here. ted cruz has much to atone for but out of the dark comes the light and this young man has been brought back to christ. can i get an amen? all it took was our fallen brother, teddy cruz, and his gunked up uncircumcised member, from which putridness emits when the foreskin is pulled back. you can do this, Amanda, you've done worse. have I? undergrad was a blur. oh well, whatever. bottom's up.

shiksa
Nov 9, 2009

i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle

Typo posted:

this is the beauty of sex scandals it's pretty much impossible to disprove something happened until a year has passed or something

even grrm understood this in ASOIAF where cersei just accused Margery of whoring around and they have to have a trial by the faith or something even though there's like 0 evidence anything happened

tbf if ted cruz was married to a preteen for political purposes and was accused of having an affair i'd still be in disbelief that anyone would have sex with him.

also im really disappointed in this thread for having a page+ flamewar with no man's land, i thought something had happened between midnight and now when i had spent that time watching mick foley videos. really, what is wrong with yall?

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011


replace Gas Price and Economy with Guantanamo, and the High/Low, Bad/Good with Close/Open

that's the level of argument No Man's Land is presenting

good job ignoring all aspects of republican obstructionism, obama's been trying to close guantanamo for years

No Mans Land
Feb 26, 2016

by Cowcaster

Fidel Castronaut posted:

Who is this? No Man Is Land, who is this trying to get in on our little game of checkers on top of an authentic wooden barrel while we wait for our number to be called at the Cracker Barrel? Is he with you?

No idea. But ive responded above in an edit.

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No Mans Land
Feb 26, 2016

by Cowcaster

FourLeaf posted:



replace Gas Price and Economy with Guantanamo, and the High/Low, Bad/Good with Close/Open

that's the level of argument No Man's Land is presenting

good job ignoring all aspects of republican obstructionism, obama's been trying to close guantanamo for years

It turns out it was pretty necessary if it was so hard to close. If it was such an ethical affront it would have been pretty easy to close, like Abu Ghraib. It was pandering from the start to suggest that it could be done easily. I admit i did believe him at the start. I did in fact vote for him in 08.

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