Lladre posted:

You are right. I should read the thread.

Beet Wagon posted:

Reddit didn't think it was that funny though, shockingly.

Ghostlight posted:

Derek specifically confirmed like 2000 pages ago that he can't form a class action lawsuit against CIG due to the arbitration clauses in the TOS.


(this is what happened to the now mythical lawsuit)

quote:

“Quite a number of people don’t realize just how serious I am taking all this. I’m not doing it for shits ‘n giggles; or because I don’t have better things to do with my time and money, but to spend it on legal bills, investigations, research etc.

And the latest thing to irk me (because I know a lot more than what has been public), is the Illfonic situation and how RSI/CIG have pretty much thrown them under the bus over SM since last year. And if you’ve heard my rants about how they are treating some of the people still working on this project, then you already have a pretty good idea what my motivation for all this is. Outside of the fact that they drew first blood.

Since no private person is going to be able to sue them over Star Citizen without going through arbitration, even though there is a very slim chance that it can be tossed out of arbitration and into court (State or Federal), I have been hoping (yeah, I know right?) that they’d sue me by now because that gets around the entire arbitration conundrum and gets the ball running. But they know that ANY lawsuit for ANY reason that arises out of this farce, makes it open season on everything – including Star Citizen which is the reason for all this. My attorney already put them on notice in one of his letters (which I made public) for that specific reason.

And since I have no intentions (at this time) of suing Chris or CIG/RSI over his defamatory diatribe (in his response to The Escapist), since that’s just going to be a waste of time given how long it would take to slog through that and get to the Star Citizen part, I am left with no choice but to do precisely what I said I would do: get the State and Fed authorities involved so that THEY can go take a look and determine what’s best for the consumer. After all, that’s precisely what the FTC (a Fed agency) is for.

And since I haven’t and wont’ do ANYTHING illegal, they simply can’t hurt me in any way, shape or form (Chris knows this, and has said on the record that “I have nothing to lose”. He’s right) over this, given the fact that 1) I’m not making poo poo up on a whim 2) most of what I’ve stated as opinion and/or hyperbole is not legally actionable 3) any action they bring, and which we get tossed is a win for me and very – very – bad for them, they have no choice but to weather the storm until they either deliver or fold.

Chris’s commentary over the SM debacle should be notable to anyone who read his Escapist diatribe and understood the tone, premise and hubris within.

They’ve been playing a very bad game of “Derek Smart” poker with me. And losing. And I don’t even play poker.”

“Yes, the issue with the govt – as I’ve stated before – is that 1) they take their sweet time and probably won’t get to it until it’s all over 2) we won’t be privy to any of the information that backers are entitled to because Fed action is not the same as a private or class action – they won’t tell you poo poo if you’re not part of the action

Yes, myself or anyone can sue them over Star Citizen but as attorneys (even the two that contacted me and offered to help pro bono) have said, we run the chance of it being tossed out of State or Fed court and into arbitration due to the ToS. In my case, since they have NO evidence that I ever agreed to their new ToS, having never – ever – played the game or done anything that resulted in my agreeing to said ToS, I do have a case. But a slim one.

So the choice is either :

1) sue in State or Fed court and run the risk of it being tossed to arbitration as per Star Citizen ToS. waste of time and money. bad.

2) then (as per above) in arbitration, show enough cause to get it tossed back into State or Fed court. waste of time and money. bad. going back to #1 is good.

3) sue Chris for defamation, make RSI/CIG a party to the suit and add a litany of causes of action related to Star Citizen.

4) wait for the whole thing to collapse. now there are so many reasons (aka “Cause Of Action”) to sue either in arbitration, State, Fed court because now we’re talking about the collapse of a $106M+ project; which is still shy of the $150M+ collapse of 38 Studios and which reached a crescendo of legal shenanigans only because the State had $75M invested in it.

There are other options which I am not at liberty to discuss. But at the end of the day, I have always maintained that I have no intentions of giving up unless and until they 1) give people the refunds they asked for 2) they provide the financial accounting they promised

In the US, you don’t need a plausible reason to sue someone. I could walk into court today, and for less than $500, sue them for a laundry list of things. They will attempt to get it tossed. And if they succeed, they can petition for their legal costs etc.

The legal system is hosed. Which is why a company like this can do shady poo poo like the ToS shenanigans – and get away with it for a long as they can.”

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

Nobody post for a while, OK?

Feindfeuer posted:

I'm more impressed that they still have so much daily sales. I mean who is buying that stuff all the time? Is there actually an influx of new players and if so, why? Or are the whales accumulating more and more ships so they can later equip their make-believe fleet, rent them out or 'sell them for a profit ingame' ?

redwalrus posted:

AP posted:

quote:

They're not. A jobs page is meaningless.

Derek I believe a lot of what you say and we're been able to confirm quite a bit of it in past, but you do tend to get a bit carried away sometimes on details. I appreciate the point that having 60 or whatever job openings listed is not the same thing as hiring people and that putting a stacked job page up doesn't cost anything, but by saying they are not hiring anyone you overreach.

CIG Facebook


Now I understand that hiring to fill opening role positions and promoting from within are ways to save money and can even be supporting evidence of problems with cash flow, but it's still some people being hired. If part of your message/intention is to reach Citizens that are still deluded by the magic of dreams before it's too late, these small details are the life jackets giving them hope.

I'd guess something similar happened with Austin, you said they were closing the studio and in a sense they have, the studio has been gutted with top talent either leaving or moving to LA but it's still open, even if it's obvious it's now gone from the most important studio to a poorly fourth place afterthought, stacked with QA and server engineers.

Sillybones posted:

Those two duders on the sides have a look about them that seem like they would be able to make a cool space game. Where are they now?

Sillybones posted:

Those two duders on the sides have a look about them that seem like they would be able to make a cool space game. Where are they now?

Mirificus posted:

https://www.reddit.com/user/Tarkaroshe

Screams eeeEEE posted:

man, skippy is something my step-dad would call someone ironically like 20 years ago

Viscous Soda posted:

I've been meaning to ask, what the hell is this from? Because I can't think of any context which would make crobberts hand gestures seem less insane.

Sillybones posted:

Those two duders on the sides have a look about them that seem like they would be able to make a cool space game. Where are they now?

Daztek posted:

https://descendentstudios.com/

Viscous Soda posted:

I've been meaning to ask, what the hell is this from? Because I can't think of any context which would make crobberts hand gestures seem less insane.

tooterfish posted:

Okay!

Lladre posted:

I think I have a lot of empathy. But I don't really feel any to people who eat themselves to that state. Starving children make me sad, and that drat bitch on TV making me feel bad for some mistreated catte.