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Berious
Nov 13, 2005

grimcreaper posted:

I'm the goon chair lawyer.

In all seriousness though, as some else said your a hero for opening some people's eyes. I never bought into SC but a few friends have. I've been trying to get them to do a refund to no avail. Thanks for being a part of the thread and even though I make fun of you sometimes I really do have a lot of respect for you.

On a very serious note, one of my backer friends was recently talking to me about how he's going to lose his house and how he would rather keep his $12,000 worth of jpegs over keeping his home. He is B'tak levels of nuts since his personal life went to poo poo and I don't know what to do with him anymore. He basically said if he refunds that you have won. He won't save his house because he hates Derek Smart.

Holy poo poo that's insane and terrible. Not the worst I've read either. Fart Shitizen ruins lives.

e: guess I need to supply a catte



As you can probably tell the tabby was in the box first

Berious fucked around with this message at 08:40 on Apr 9, 2016

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Berious
Nov 13, 2005

G0RF posted:

Reddit: Weekly Discussion: Monetization

First off-- I'm really starting to dig this new moderator. Opening the door-- finally opening the bloody door-- for honest backer conversations about tricky and controversial topics is a wonderful improvement over their former Orwellian system and the Dolvak-era.

Secondly, I really am starting to wonder if our rebuke about their poisonous backer base and particularly the bad faith moderation actually led to some of these changes. That McArthur thing apparently got around and pissed people off (or embarrassed them, more like.) But maybe CIG realized they really did have a problem?

Regardless, these are positive signs-- hugely positive. Decriminalizing contrary opinions and even criticism is a big step towards disempowering the self-appointed Dissent Police like Mothman.

Please, anonymous CIG subordinate assigned to read this thread, pass along my hearty approval. If they've happened solely by accident or independent of your actions, well, congrats anyway. It's a small step in the right direction.

I thought that dude was just Dolvak on a new account. Very clearly not!

Berious
Nov 13, 2005

ComfyPants posted:

It's all part of the Agile Thread Development method



:gary: funny and true

NVB
Jan 23, 2010

Grimey Drawer

Getting tired of all this plagerism of Ryan Archer's work, gonna have to let him know about all this blatant theft of he's hard work being posted in this thread, i'm sure he would be thankful for the tip. :toughguy:

Berious
Nov 13, 2005

D_Smart posted:

e.g. some crazy serious poo poo happened in the UK in the last two weeks that ONLY close sources and insiders know. It's very - loving - serious. Neither myself, nor 8Ace posted about it. The same thing happened here in the US. Not a peep. There IS a reason for that.

I hope when it's common enough knowledge that leaking it wouldn't compromise anyone you'll let us know Derek! :f5:

Berious
Nov 13, 2005

I hope its not too late to white noise empty quote this

ZenMaster
Jan 24, 2006

I Saved PC Gaming

i've been archered!!! :arg:

Berious
Nov 13, 2005
I miss money bags and his knitting girlfriend

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

grimcreaper posted:

On a very serious note, one of my backer friends was recently talking to me about how he's going to lose his house and how he would rather keep his $12,000 worth of jpegs over keeping his home. He is B'tak levels of nuts since his personal life went to poo poo and I don't know what to do with him anymore. He basically said if he refunds that you have won. He won't save his house because he hates Derek Smart.
This is the poo poo that honestly, really disgusts me about Star Citizen. I'm getting on my soapbox for a minute.

One of the characteristics of a cult is "members’ lives being centered around the group, taking priority over family, personal well-being and other life pursuits." Well, there you have it. I've never seen a video game that is as financially exploitative as this. And there's a lot of exploitative games but this by far the worst. It's closer to casino gambling, an industry which was at one point run by actual mobsters.

Hopper
Dec 28, 2004

BOOING! BOOING!
Grimey Drawer
I would love to hear this guy defend the 12k as "investment" in divorce court and the judge then accepting this and factoring it into the dude's share of their assets so his wife gets 12k real money and he is stuck with a bunch of worthless jpegs.

Booourns
Jan 20, 2004
Please send a report when you see me complain about other posters and threads outside of QCS

~thanks!

Screams eeeEEE posted:

Yeah that was my view. If only all the "ben is fat lol" and "sandi is old/ugly lol" was as taboo

Come on now you can't expect everyone to have something funny to say, why would you want to take away their childish insults, next you're gonna wanna take away their animal picture spam

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Wikkheiser posted:

This is the poo poo that honestly, really disgusts me about Star Citizen. I'm getting on my soapbox for a minute.

One of the characteristics of a cult is "members’ lives being centered around the group, taking priority over family, personal well-being and other life pursuits." Well, there you have it. I've never seen a video game that is as financially exploitative as this. And there's a lot of exploitative games but this by far the worst. It's closer to casino gambling, an industry which was at one point run by actual mobsters.
Yeah, this poo poo really does stick out to me, there'd have to be more like this guy and it's loving tragic/stupid that they'd rather go homeless than admit Derek Smart, Internet Warlord may have been right.

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006




Post moved to the Concern forum

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

CrazyTolradi posted:

Yeah, this poo poo really does stick out to me, there'd have to be more like this guy and it's loving tragic/stupid that they'd rather go homeless than admit Derek Smart, Internet Warlord may have been right.
I remember some RSI forum posts where people had basically blown the bank on it, their spouse left them, etc.

SC fans will say "oh, well people can afford it" or "who are YOU to tell people what they can spend their hard-earned doubloons on!" And sure, there are rich people who blow stupid MC Hammer amounts of money, and $12k isn't much for some people, but for the most part, well-off people stay well-off because they don't spend as much as working/middle class schlubs like us (well, me) tend to think, let alone on video games which promise aspirational escapism.

Edit: I'm hardly a financial expert, but people who stay in the black spend wisely .... and save. They watch their finances like a hawk. And unless they're truly fuckoff rich tend not to fritter their money away on needless luxuries.

I would almost guarantee that most people spending $10k+ on Star Citizen cannot afford it.

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 09:53 on Apr 9, 2016

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues

How did this person manage to finish typing that post when they were destroying their insides twisting themselves into knots to come up with that horseshit.

New flash for this guy: There wouldn't be a Cutlass gap if the Cutlass had been released as originally advertised. But then they wouldn't be able to try to sell another lie to idiots that keep falling for their loving sales pitch.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

i am harry posted:

Considering where she's sitting it might just be a portion of Ben's body, or very plausibly her own. I've spent much time next to fat people and they generally have an area or two that doesn't get too much attention in the shower if you know what I mean.

Waaaaaaaait... Isn't that why you get married? Well, that and the rear end wiping?

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

RearmingStrafbomber posted:

We wondered what a :fuzzknot: emote could mean.

It came to mean 'psychotic, rabid, potentially violent, and self-destructive'.

Madcosby posted:

if fuzzknot wasnt a woman, she wouldnt have been banned


but it led to that loser bootcha leaving; who give s a gently caress about gonndetyada or whatves

Raskolnikov posted:

I agree.

wait,

:same:

You know, they're gone, and have been for a goodly while. Let it lie already, okay?

Seriously. CIG has enough poo poo to spawn a continental blizzard of butthurt special snowflakes, so let's aim our venom THAT way. Hell, CIG can..ha...even...hahaha...defend....HAHAHAHA...themselve...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

<wipes eyes> Sorry, I tried, but I couldn't do it.

Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
If I ever get to the point where I value digital items over anything else, is the day that I decide to not live anymore. There is insanity, and then there is a door beyond that.

Anyways, wing commander special later, should lift every ones spirits.

paaarp

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

Gapey Joe Stalin posted:

I mean all disrespect to Goons in Platoons.

Haskell9 posted:

I mean all disrespect to Goons with Spoons.

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Games > Star Citizen: Goons with Harpoons

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Haskell9 posted:

Ben Lesnick, Honey Badger

Also, I am pretty sure Ben DOES give a gently caress, FWIW. At least about Wing Commander.

Ayn Marx
Dec 21, 2012

D_Smart posted:

I've got news for you. With 8ace, and that other chap either curtailing and disappearing, and me just watching some of here flail about, you're going to have to come up with your own material now. That's what happens when some of you continue to kick the Golden geese in the balls.

And when the E.L.E does happen, as shocked as some will be, you all would have missed everything leading up to it.

So yeah, nice job. :smug:

Pathetic.

Berious
Nov 13, 2005

Ayn Marx posted:

Pathetic.

Don't sign your posts!!!

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues

Wikkheiser posted:

I'm hardly a financial expert, but they spend wisely and save. And unless they're truly fuckoff rich tend not to fritter their money away on needless luxuries.

Anyone who invests in something and gets hosed over by it that then comes out and tries to pass it off as money they could afford to burn either have absolutely no idea of the true value of money or are trying to deflect their loss off to simpletons. It's an infantile, immature way to look at the world and you can see with people like Wesha that they think simple possession of money and the ability to spend it gives you some measure of status. Anyone with half a brain that understands money will know it's generally something you worked and risked for, and giving it to someone who doesn't work sensibly with it, betrays your trust, and ultimately leaves you with nothing is not something to be proud of. It's also not something you just shrug off. It should make you angry.

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

A Neurotic Jew posted:

welp whoever else left CIG last week remains unverifiable. Since thread treasure AP seems to have been the only one to correctly pick a name out of a hat I'm gonna forego deducting points for misses and buy him an avatar. If anyone has any suggestions please post them.

Hey, thanks but not needed, as soon as you made the bet, I cheated. I picked one person that was showing as having recently left CIG and a random 4 others. I thought it might be funny later but it wasn't really.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Berious posted:

Don't sign your posts!!!

:golfclap:

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Wikkheiser posted:

I remember some RSI forum posts where people had basically blown the bank on it, their spouse left them, etc.

SC fans will say "oh, well people can afford it" or "who are YOU to tell people what they can spend their hard-earned doubloons on!" And sure, there are rich people who blow stupid MC Hammer amounts of money, and $12k isn't much for some people, but for the most part, well-off people stay well-off because they don't spend as much as working/middle class schlubs like us (well, me) tend to think, let alone on video games which promise aspirational escapism.

Edit: I'm hardly a financial expert, but people who stay in the black spend wisely .... and save. They watch their finances like a hawk. And unless they're truly fuckoff rich tend not to fritter their money away on needless luxuries.

I would almost guarantee that most people spending $10k+ on Star Citizen cannot afford it.
This has been pretty much in my mind ever since the first time I saw the whole "It's my money, I can afford it!" schtick. People who get to be well off in the financial sense do it by spending, investing or saving their money wisely. Potential virtual spaceships is not a wise investment.

And yeah, these people are spending money at unsustainable levels on this poo poo too. They're ignoring mortgage repayments, credit card and utility bills and, even in some cases I've seen on Reddit, food. I used to think Star Citizens were the Millennial version of Trekkies but, while I do still for the most part, they're actually far worse in many respects, such as the financial one.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

AP posted:

Hey, thanks but not needed, as soon as you made the bet, I cheated. I picked one person that was showing as having recently left CIG and a random 4 others. I thought it might be funny later but it wasn't really.

Look, dude/ette, this is the CIG thread. Why you bein' all moral and ethical up in here? Harshing my vibe, maaaaaan.

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006





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Daztek fucked around with this message at 10:34 on Apr 9, 2016

Tha_Joker_GAmer
Aug 16, 2006

Hezzy posted:

Extinction Level Event

I thought this was a joke but yes this is actually what people are referring to this as

its because d shart watched deep impact shortly before the info came to light, thats my working theory as i have not heard it used anywhere else, ever.

Chalks
Sep 30, 2009

Daztek posted:



E:

AV Size



Has anyone asked him to come join us on SA if he ever escapes the shackles of CIG?

Ayn Marx
Dec 21, 2012

Berious posted:

Don't sign your posts!!!

Harsh but fair

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

TheLastRoboKy posted:

Anyone who invests in something and gets hosed over by it that then comes out and tries to pass it off as money they could afford to burn either have absolutely no idea of the true value of money or are trying to deflect their loss off to simpletons. It's an infantile, immature way to look at the world and you can see with people like Wesha that they think simple possession of money and the ability to spend it gives you some measure of status. Anyone with half a brain that understands money will know it's generally something you worked and risked for, and giving it to someone who doesn't work sensibly with it, betrays your trust, and ultimately leaves you with nothing is not something to be proud of. It's also not something you just shrug off. It should make you angry.
It's also the level of money involved too. I mean, I spent $15AUD on Battlecruiser: Millenium Edition (found it in the bargain bin at EB), thinking I'd see if the game had improved any. It hadn't really, from my perspective, but hey, it's $15 and I've spent a bit more for far worse. However, when you're getting into the range of money where it's enough to cover your rent/mortgage for the period of anything from a month to a year, you're a loving idiot for spending it on what is literally not even a game yet. Now, if Wesha were doing a Bootcha and actually going into this as a proper investor, that'd be somewhat different, although he'd still be a loving idiot if he didn't pull out yet.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Madcosby posted:

if fuzzknot wasnt a woman, she wouldnt have been banned


but it led to that loser bootcha leaving; who give s a gently caress about gonndetyada or whatves

God you're a bitter little pissbitch

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Also, what exactly was Lando supposed to have leaked and when?

Ayn Marx
Dec 21, 2012

Picture of himself next to the Robertsmobile?

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Sunk cost thread.

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao

CrazyTolradi posted:

Also, what exactly was Lando supposed to have leaked and when?

Last year, a huge art asset dump and an internal build of the game. Pretty sure it was a sheepdip op though. It's also where the spoiler tag joke came from.

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Thoatse posted:

Last year, a huge art asset dump and an internal build of the game. Pretty sure it was a sheepdip op though. It's also where the spoiler tag joke came from.
Wow, Ben bringing it up again sure just looks petty and unprofessional. Also, who the gently caress let Lando have access to that?

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