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Infinitum posted:I voted for myself? I'm currently double voting guess we both have secret powers! I like your case against PMach, but I'm going to hold my vote until we get closer to deadline.
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Propaganda Machine posted:Flavorfishing and an attempted chainlynch on two known town members with a bonus thunderdome. ##vote Propaganda Machine Everybody else has made the effort case I wanted to make, but I wanted to point out something here: TT was janitored, i.e, no cardflip, no role, no alignment. So, the only people who would know TT's alignment are scum and self-aligned people, in which case, they can happily say "Oh, he was town" because nobody else can confirm it otherwise and TT's actual alignment doesn't mean anything to them. Hope this helps!
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Apr 9, 2016 17:41
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Propaganda Machine posted:I'll help you guys get this over with, then. I'm rusty and it hasn't been fun outside of jokephase. Hopefully any of this helps you nail scum before scum nails you. Good luck, town. Well now I don't know what to think. 
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Friction.123 posted:I'm currently double voting guess we both have secret powers! Thanks  Fixed!
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Apr 9, 2016 17:56
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tpink posted:Well now I don't know what to think. Think I am i the same boat, might be a play to slow the votes or showing his role to stop a mislynch but voting for your self before seems strange unless he has really just given in. If I don't get a satisfactory answer as to what role flavour PM is I will vote for him.
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Apr 9, 2016 17:59
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Propaganda Machine posted:In case that wasn't hammer, I tried to protect KB last night and got blocked/distracted. Have fun figuring that one out. Who all have you tried to save?
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Apr 9, 2016 17:59
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Azuth0667 posted:Who all have you tried to save? We've only had one night phase so far.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:06
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Prop why pick KB for your PR?
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MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:##vote Propaganda Machine Is that for certain? Sure it's not some odd power of one of the scum, strange there was no scum move n1 if it was janitored.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:11
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The janitor would belong to the scum presumably. NA spec is pointless with this many alive though
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Apr 9, 2016 18:13
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Rascyc posted:Prop why pick KB for your PR? It was between you and him, actually. He at least engaged with me early on in what felt like a constructive manner, and I couldn't get clear reads on anybody else.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:19
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Azuth0667 posted:Who all have you tried to save? We've only had one night so far 
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MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:##vote Propaganda Machine That's a good point. Sorry for the oversight.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:20
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MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:We've only had one night phase so far. Propaganda Machine posted:We've only had one night so far Ah yeah i confused it with the other games im in.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:20
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TheDonPeters posted:My liege! It could very easily be a last ditch ploy. Who's to say the game even has and Arthur? I feel like if anybody should know who Arthur is, it's me. I'm the Lady in the Lake.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:22
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Propaganda Machine posted:It could very easily be a last ditch ploy. Who's to say the game even has and Arthur? Unless by last ditch ploy you meant my claim, not the Arthur flavorclaim (which is still a bold move if he's not scum). I hadn't counted up the votes and I thought I was getting close. Definitely feels like I'm on my way out regardless, but I want to arm town with everything I can.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:24
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I'm heading to bed, so I'll probably miss deadline as I'll be asleep. I'm happy with my vote on Pmachine. Though I don't like town giving up in the fashion he has. While there is time in the day, take a look at the votes that occurred today for myself, aside from Pmachine. They felt super lazy. Good luck Knights. Make your King proud.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:25
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Propaganda Machine posted:It was between you and him, actually. He at least engaged with me early on in what felt like a constructive manner, and I couldn't get clear reads on anybody else.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:27
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Rascyc posted:Why didn't you support my case on Inf d1? I had a hard time making sense of anything amidst all the white noise.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:28
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TheDonPeters posted:Is that for certain? Sure it's not some odd power of one of the scum, strange there was no scum move n1 if it was janitored. You're missing the point. Nobody knows TT's alignment because he was janitored. Hell, in most games, even the scum don't get that information when they janitor someone. It's part of the trade-off between "deny town valuable information" and "gain information from a cardflip". Arbitrarily declaring that TT was town is a slip because, barring an investigation, there's no way for PMach to know TT's alignment as town. Scum know who their scumbuddies are, which means they can confidently say someone is town: The someone isn't on their scum team, and if the someone is third-party, they're not going to go "AHA, HE'S TOTALLY LYING, I'M ACTUALLY THIRD PARTY, GOTCHA SCUMBO" because then the someone gets a bigger target on them. Does that make more sense?
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Apr 9, 2016 18:28
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Propaganda Machine posted:It could very easily be a last ditch ploy. Who's to say the game even has and Arthur? If you're the Lady of the Lake and IF you were informed who Arthur was you'd know I wasn't lying.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:29
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MEDS, that's a good point and a decent reason to vote for me. It honestly came down to laziness on my part. It wasn't a scumslip, though. Like I said in my post, my heart just kind of isn't in this. I'd replace out, but I feel like it would unfairly drat whoever took my place. At least a flip tells you I was town.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:31
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Infinitum posted:If you're the Lady of the Lake and IF you were informed who Arthur was you'd know I wasn't lying. I wasn't informed and if you're not lying, I wish I had been.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:32
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It was a half-hearted flavorjoke.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:32
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Wait... Lady of the Lake isn't even in the movie, she's just referred to. Get lynched.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:32
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Infinitum posted:Wait... Lady of the Lake isn't even in the movie, she's just referred to. K. Sweet dreams.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:33
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Well there is one way to verify.. The Scum team roleblocker is dead, so someone could investigate you tonight and not be blocked to determine alignment. Just.. Gah I don't know. It's 330 and I need sleep
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Apr 9, 2016 18:36
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Infinitum posted:Wait... Lady of the Lake isn't even in the movie, she's just referred to. And she's something that exists and is round-table aligned. She gave you your kingdom, you jackass.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:36
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Infinitum posted:Well there is one way to verify.. The Scum team roleblocker is dead, so someone could investigate you tonight and not be blocked to determine alignment. Yeah, that's why I was curious about my action failing. Did I get jailed, or what?
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Apr 9, 2016 18:36
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Propaganda Machine posted:Unless by last ditch ploy you meant my claim, not the Arthur flavorclaim (which is still a bold move if he's not scum). Sorry I should have been clearer I did mean you, but I do wonder why Infi felt the need to role claim when he was not in any danger. Lady of the lake, very Authrian but not in the film other then a mention. But we do have claims just as strange like Kush and the swallows. Cant think of anyone who would be a good fit for doctor/protection, maybe robin or his minstrels so lady of the lake fits as well as any other. 'Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.' So I think your fate is with the masses.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:41
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MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:You're missing the point. Ah sorry I misunderstood did not realise Janitor was lingo though he meant he had been removed by admin or somthing my bad.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:44
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I'm not sure how big of a scum slip that is if we're being honest though, sure its not technically safe to call any NK's town for certain but its definitely the most likely outcome.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:46
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Apr 9, 2016 18:52
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Propaganda Machine posted:Yeah, that's why I was curious about my action failing. Did I get jailed, or what?
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Apr 9, 2016 18:53
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Rascyc posted:I shot a blackmailer Right, good shot. I'll ##unvote myself, I guess.
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Apr 9, 2016 19:38
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Infinitum posted:Well there is one way to verify.. The Scum team roleblocker is dead, so someone could investigate you tonight and not be blocked to determine alignment. I mean if PM is not just saying "whatever lynch me," he's saying "whatever lynch me because my heart is not really in this anyway and I don't want to play." The former sounds like something he might say if he were trying to stop the bandwagon; the latter is more plausible and a reasonable explanation for a self-lynch vote. Ugh I JUST DON'T KNOW. 
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Apr 9, 2016 19:39
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Propaganda Machine posted:Right, good shot. And now he unvoted himself, adding to my confusion. REVEAL YOURSELF PM.
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Apr 9, 2016 19:41
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tpink posted:And now he unvoted himself, adding to my confusion. REVEAL YOURSELF PM. I've already claimed Lady of the Lake, a doctor. This puts town in an odd spot because if I don't get lynched today, scum would have a decent reason not to nightkill the goddamn doctor as there's a great case against me that they can continue to push in future days. If there's a chance we can nail scum instead, we should. If momentum against me gets going again, I'll hammer myself.
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Apr 9, 2016 19:43
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And like Inf said, a cop can investigate me overnight to reveal the truth 
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Yeah poo poo I wish you hadn't revealed yourself now unless there is more than one doctor and we get a conga line going.
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