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Skyl3lazer posted:Sanders is the last chance that anyone other than rich oligarchs have for a happy future and you'd squander it because you think you'll be rich some day, or because you think that the candidate with the highest favorability deficit can actually win an election against a terrifying 'other' in the republican party well if she can commit election fraud this well, i don't see why she should have trouble defeating the republicans
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Xandu posted:I hate to quote reddit, but lol
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Concerned Citizen posted:well if she can commit election fraud this well, i don't see why she should have trouble defeating the republicans hillary is irrelevant by and large, the people actually rigging elections don't care if she or any of the republicans win. they just care that sanders loses
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Skyl3lazer posted:hillary is irrelevant by and large, the people actually rigging elections don't care if she or any of the republicans win. they just care that sanders loses in that case, i guess it doesn't matter because bernie is doomed no matter what
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Skyl3lazer posted:hillary is irrelevant by and large, the people actually rigging elections don't care if she or any of the republicans win. they just care that sanders loses so are these the kinds of meltdowns we can expect to happen all day? because if so 
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Skyl3lazer posted:Sanders is the last chance that anyone other than rich oligarchs have for a happy future and you'd squander it because you think you'll be rich some day, or because you think that the candidate with the highest favorability deficit can actually win an election against a terrifying 'other' in the republican party the last chance? seems a bit hyperbolic this lee fang dude seems real aggro, who is he?
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Concerned Citizen posted:in that case, i guess it doesn't matter because bernie is doomed no matter what only when people like you and the other people in this thread choose not to stand against the system during the last chance we have to do so
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It's rigged to blow, boys.
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Skyl3lazer posted:only when people like you and the other people in this thread choose not to stand against the system during the last chance we have to do so i hate to tell you this, but the truth is: i am a rich oligarch, and i stand with hillary.
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so what happens if it turns out that the staggering incompetence of the state of New York benefitted Bernie Sanders? the deadline is dumb as gently caress but it wasn't designed to hurt Sanders because at the point it was set up nobody thought he would come even as close as he did
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Homeless Friend posted:It's like a more wordy Immortan. wat
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apocalyptic thinking is so freeing. "this is the very last chance we have to fix things, oh poo poo it failed, good job everyone else, you all hosed it up not me, now i don't have to try and make any more positive changes every again because YALL RUINED EVERYTHING"
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Zelder posted:the last chance? seems a bit hyperbolic the influence of money from citizen's united isn't going to stop flowing, and the rich will only control more of the wealth and media of this country
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Karl Barks posted:given the demographics of brooklyn: except young people don't vote, and old people do, so it's going to hillary before you even consider all the minorities living there. or maybe you were ignorant enough to think all the under 18s could vote?? Skyl3lazer posted:Sanders is the last chance that anyone other than rich oligarchs have for a happy future and you'd squander it because you think you'll be rich some day, or because you think that the candidate with the highest favorability deficit can actually win an election against a terrifying 'other' in the republican party bernie sanders doesn't want to do anything against financial oligarchs, besides stage dressing that doesn't meaningfully affect their power
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Concerned Citizen posted:i hate to tell you this, but the truth is: i am a rich oligarch, and i stand with hillary.  except substitute rich oligarch for trust fund haver
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point of return posted:so what happens if it turns out that the staggering incompetence of the state of New York benefitted Bernie Sanders? I agree, nobody in 1911 thought Bernie Sanders would get this far.
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Skyl3lazer posted:the influence of money from citizen's united isn't going to stop flowing, and the rich will only control more of the wealth and media of this country i agree that something that already didn't happen isn't going to stop happening, but that seems rather irrelevant? the rich have controlled 100% of the media and like 99% of the wealth in america since america was founded btw
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fishmech posted:bernie sanders doesn't want to do anything against financial oligarchs, besides stage dressing that doesn't meaningfully affect their power Hmmm, and I guess noted puppet of financial oligarchs,  , will do something about the people that bankroll her?
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Skyl3lazer posted:the influence of money from citizen's united isn't going to stop flowing, and the rich will only control more of the wealth and media of this country why is he the last chance though? like does everyone who was inspired by sander's campaign get murdered after he's out of the race
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Pinterest Mom posted:I agree, nobody in 1911 thought Bernie Sanders would get this far. 1911 was an inside job
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Zelder posted:why is he the last chance though? like does everyone who was inspired by sander's campaign get murdered after he's out of the race ideally
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fishmech posted:bernie sanders doesn't want to do anything against financial oligarchs, besides stage dressing that doesn't meaningfully affect their power this is the thinking that will doom the 99% to oblivion. you're parroting what you hear from a talking head paid by a billionaire. fishmech i get that you're a gimmick but please understand the power you have to enact change if you stand up for yourself.
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Skyl3lazer posted:only when people like you and the other people in this thread choose not to stand against the system during the last chance we have to do so I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone, and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world without you. A world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you. *RATM plays*
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Fojar38 posted:Can a judge actually order a primary vote to be opened? Here's the relevant case law: http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supreme-court/479/208.html Basically: political parties have a first amendment (freedom of association) right to decide who participates in selecting their candidates, including in party primaries. Parties in primary states often cede a lot of this to the state legislature, but they don't have to. If the Democratic party of New York wanted an open primary, they can have one. If they want a closed primary, they can have that too. If they don't have a preference, the state legislature can decide for them. Voters have no right to right to participate in a party's business if the party doesn't want them to participate. This is why we should stop states from having to pay for the drat things and force the parties to run their own elections.
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Skyl3lazer posted:this is the thinking that will doom the 99% to oblivion. you're parroting what you hear from a talking head paid by a billionaire. fishmech i get that you're a gimmick but please understand the power you have to enact change if you stand up for yourself. have you considered a trip to syria this year?
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Bernie's victory tonight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3CLc0IGstk
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Skyl3lazer posted:this is the thinking that will doom the 99% to oblivion. you're parroting what you hear from a talking head paid by a billionaire. fishmech i get that you're a gimmick but please understand the power you have to enact change if you stand up for yourself. maybe the 99% should have gotten a loving job
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Concerned Citizen posted:ideally "my fellow americans, i'm pleased to tell you that i've signed legislation that will outlaw bernie bros forever. we begin bombing in 5 minutes." - hillary clinton tonight
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Zelder posted:"my fellow americans, i'm pleased to tell you that i've signed legislation that will outlaw bernie bros forever. we begin bombing in 5 minutes." If she came out and said she'd do this I'd vote for her. Hillary you need only promise and California is yours.
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Immortan posted:Hmmm, and I guess noted puppet of financial oligarchs, I expect Hillary Clinton to be pretty much Obama 2.0 and Obama's already been doing some stuff to go up against Wall Street
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triple sulk posted:It's nice to see the Sanders camp meltdowns are already happening I plan on doing something constructive with it at least 
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Skyl3lazer posted:this is the thinking that will doom the 99% to oblivion. you're parroting what you hear from a talking head paid by a billionaire. fishmech i get that you're a gimmick but please understand the power you have to enact change if you stand up for yourself. lol no, friend, bernie sanders isn't standing up to power, bernie sanders just wants to keep the capitalist economy as it is outside stage dressing Immortan posted:Hmmm, and I guess noted puppet of financial oligarchs, bernie sanders doesn't want to do anything that meaningfully impedes financial oligarchs, which you'd know if you weren't berndromal.
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Joementum posted:This is why we should stop states from having to pay for the drat things and force the parties to run their own elections. This would be a hilarious shitshow so I'm 100% down
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point of return posted:I expect Hillary Clinton to be pretty much Obama 2.0 and Obama's already been doing some stuff to go up against Wall Street lmao if you think dodd frank has been sufficient regulation, or even well-enforced
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Fullhouse posted:This would be a hilarious shitshow so I'm 100% down It already happens in a lot of states: they're called caucuses.
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Skyl3lazer posted:if hillary wins this primary we will see our country slip into more war, more crippling income inequality, more monetary influence in politics, and more rightwing shift in judicial and legislative systems https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgflCE7zRpc
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Joementum posted:It already happens in a lot of states: they're called caucuses. Yeah but caucuses are loving awful so imagine every state doing one
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