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zen death robot posted:It would require constitutional amendments which not only requires both the house and senate passing them with a 2/3rds majority but 38 states have to ratify as well so good luck it would require no such thing to reform fptp. states can do this on their own.
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zen death robot posted:Which is the biggest power the president has so if you lean more one way than the other it's a good idea to vote that way even if the actual nominee isn't your real preference. yeah, but guy insinuated that this would've been impossible under president bernie because he's not pragmatic enough or whatever i agree though, president bernie could've taken the same route to legalized gay marriage as president obama
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:Do you think half of the Democratic Party is young white males? no, but sanders isn't anywhere close to half the democratic primary. you see, that is why he is losing so badly
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Pollyanna posted:basically i just want poo poo to get shin megami tensei all up in here  a portrait of bill before he entered politics
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Epic High Five posted:TYT are going to be like a Karl Rove Collective this cycle aren't they Bernie is the closest they will get to their ideal candidate. When it's over it is gonna be a real shitshow
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fknlo posted:
i agree, it's pretty silly that hillary supporters are less likely to vote for bernie in the ge but complain about lack of party loyalty from bernie babies
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Zero Hillary supporters will be voting for Sanders in the general because he won't be the nominee.
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Condiv posted:i agree, it's pretty silly that hillary supporters are less likely to vote for bernie in the ge but complain about lack of party loyalty from bernie babies They're probably sick of the Bernmentum after getting spammed with phone calls from 15 year olds for 3 weeks straight. Also, Mystery Goomba posted:Zero Hillary supporters will be voting for Sanders in the general because he won't be the nominee.
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fishmech posted:no, but sanders isn't anywhere close to half the democratic primary. 
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voting matters more than saying "i like bernie sanders" on a poll and then not voting
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fishmech posted:voting matters more than saying "i like bernie sanders" on a poll and then not voting Bernie can't help it that "low info voters" from "the deep south" handed ol Hilldawg the nomination.
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fishmech posted:voting matters more than saying "i like bernie sanders" on a poll and then not voting I guess total evasion is the closest you can get to a fishmech admitting its wrong
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Pardon my interrupting the discussion about Reddit but I was wondering if there's any decent results up. I tried looking and found none, possibly due to me being retarded enough to post here.
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There is a rule in college football in the spring when rosters come out. "All weight change is good weight change." Guy lost weight? He will be faster, good change! Guy gained weight, he will be stronger, good change! Similarly, in bernout minds, all voting issues are good for Clinton.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:I guess total evasion is the closest you can get to a fishmech admitting its wrong People who don't vote don't matter.
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I'd be one of those people who says they like Bernie Sanders. But I'm not voting for someone who'd be cool to have a beer with. I'm voting for somebody to keep the ball rolling and has a plan to do so.
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Ah Pook posted:Pardon my interrupting the discussion about Reddit but I was wondering if there's any decent results up. I tried looking and found none, possibly due to me being retarded enough to post here. Hello confirmed retard, no, there are no decent results yet available. Crayons are in the OP.
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So what? Is the number of delegates in Brooklyn tied to the turnout? I thought this kind of thing typically impacted results just by dinging the candidate with high-turnout advantage.
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Epic High Five posted:I'd be one of those people who says they like Bernie Sanders. american idiocy at its finest 
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386-SX 25Mhz VGA posted:So what? Is the number of delegates in Brooklyn tied to the turnout? Delegates are awarded based on the proportion of the vote, so yes.
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Great White Hope posted:Delegates are awarded based on the proportion of the vote, so yes.
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386-SX 25Mhz VGA posted:So what? Is the number of delegates in Brooklyn tied to the turnout? It's a little cumbersome to work through. http://www.benchmarkpolitics.com/2016/04/new-york-city-and-surrounding-areas.html
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gently caress da Mods posted:american idiocy at its finest Sorry I don't consider someone who takes a state's rights view on things like marriage and all the legal trappings therein, and whose first seat was all but paid for by the NRA, to be some ideological god. He's a different sort of flawed person. He seems chummier, but he's got no way to implement things and his willingness to let my state fester because he's only worried about the top don't really even make him a particularly GOOD choice.
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Democrats don't give a poo poo about your state unless it's on the coast of a large body of water
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:I guess total evasion is the closest you can get to a fishmech admitting its wrong you didn't post anything saying half of anything supports bernie. you posted something showing 44.7% of an unspecified group did
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Epic High Five posted:Sorry I don't consider someone who takes a state's rights view on things like marriage and all the legal trappings therein, and whose first seat was all but paid for by the NRA, to be some ideological god. He's a different sort of flawed person. He seems chummier, but he's got no way to implement things and his willingness to let my state fester because he's only worried about the top don't really even make him a particularly GOOD choice. hillary was worse though  she said marriage was between a man and a woman up until the late 2000s
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rscott posted:Democrats don't give a poo poo about your state unless it's on the coast of a large body of water That's silly, nobody gives a heck about Alabama or Mississippi
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Condiv posted:hillary was worse though And Obama said it while running for president until he chose Biden.
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rscott posted:Democrats don't give a poo poo about your state unless it's on the coast of a large body of water maybe you should have more people if you want people to care about your hell state. over half the country lives in a state that touches the oceans, and even more live in states touching the great lakes, which can also be considered coastal. no poo poo the vast majority of people are going to be cared about more than the relatively unpopulated inner lands.
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Spiros posted:That's silly, nobody gives a heck about Alabama or Mississippi I didn't say they gave a poo poo about ALL the states on a large body of water
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fishmech posted:maybe you should have more people if you want people to care about your hell state. That's the joke?
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The point is that Sanders is definitely not ideologically pure, and he certainly isn't ideologically better. When every single attempted takedown of Clinton has to be followed with, "but with Sanders did the same thing, it was different" then maybe it's time to concede that the primary difference between the two is that Clinton is already preparing for being president, whereas Sanders isn't even prepared to be a candidate
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Epic High Five posted:The point is that Sanders is definitely not ideologically pure, and he certainly isn't ideologically better. When every single attempted takedown of Clinton has to be followed with, "but with Sanders did the same thing, it was different" then maybe it's time to concede that the primary difference between the two is that Clinton is already preparing for being president, whereas Sanders isn't even prepared to be a candidate there's plenty of takedowns on clinton that you can't say bernie has done. i was talking about one of them earlier in the thread even!
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Condiv posted:hillary was worse though So just because I've decided I'll ask this every time this comes up. You'd rather have someone who personally may be for our rights but politically either afraid or lazy when it comes to actually doing it than someone who personally has a stupid rear end view but does poo poo like vote against a federal ban on equal marriage?
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Epic High Five posted:The point is that Sanders is definitely not ideologically pure, and he certainly isn't ideologically better. When every single attempted takedown of Clinton has to be followed with, "but with Sanders did the same thing, it was different" then maybe it's time to concede that the primary difference between the two is that Clinton is already preparing for being president, whereas Sanders isn't even prepared to be a candidate Except for all the wall street poo poo, pretty sure Sanders didn't say the same thing but it was different then? And I/P that seems to be a bit different in that he recognizes that Palestinians are human beings
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