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You know everyone that travels long distances to the race picks the fall race instead of the spring race, but the amount of empty seats was crazy--there's no way they were at half capacity. And it's not like they can remove seats like some of the other tracks. On the aerials you could also see that the lots around the track that used to be huge amounts of merch trailers, corporate displays, and corporate hospitality were largely empty also. Exactly ten years ago, they were sold out for the 30th+ race in a row there and I remember buying a ticket from a shady dude on the parkway in front of the track. Protip: waiting until an hour before a sporting event starts can net you a sweet deal from a guy with a pocketful of tickets.
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Apr 18, 2016 05:07
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Possibly Chicken posted:http://nascar.nbcsports.com/2016/04/17/list-of-nascar-sprint-cup-driver-songs-played-at-bristol-intros/ Michael Annett is my new favorite driver
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Apr 18, 2016 09:47
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SPiTZ posted:You know everyone that travels long distances to the race picks the fall race instead of the spring race, but the amount of empty seats was crazy--there's no way they were at half capacity. And it's not like they can remove seats like some of the other tracks. On the aerials you could also see that the lots around the track that used to be huge amounts of merch trailers, corporate displays, and corporate hospitality were largely empty also. In 2002 my mom just called up the ticket office and was like "hey do you have any tickets" and somehow that managed to work and I still don't know how.
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Apr 18, 2016 11:04
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Possibly Chicken posted:http://nascar.nbcsports.com/2016/04/17/list-of-nascar-sprint-cup-driver-songs-played-at-bristol-intros/ Reed Sorenson and Jimmie Johnson win this. Special shoutouts to Chris Buescher and Landon Cassill.
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Apr 18, 2016 11:37
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allow me to complain about empty seats in a series that funds its races via TV and owns the tracks outright
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Apr 18, 2016 14:20
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"Say hi to Twitter and Facebook, man!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lntmJtuArNg (Matt DiBenedetto's neighbors and friends in Hickory ambushed him after finishing 6th.) 
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Apr 18, 2016 17:25
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That's seriously cooler than any driver's win this year.
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Apr 18, 2016 18:20
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L_Harrison posted:That's seriously cooler than any driver's win this year. Yeah that was awesome. I can't believe how many cars finished on the lead lap that you'd think would have no chance at it. Besides DeBenedetto and Bowyer, all the Roush cars, Landon Cassill and Chris Buescher all finished on the lead lap while Jimmie, Kyle and Kenseth all had problems and finished off the lead lap. Pretty cool to see the underdogs get one over on the big guys every once in a while. The Jr comeback was fun to watch and mid-late race when Jimmie was racing Allmendinger for the lucky dog was loving hilarious to watch. They were just beating the poo poo out of each other for that position.
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Apr 18, 2016 23:58
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VikingSkull posted:allow me to complain about empty seats in a series that funds its races via TV and owns the tracks outright About that...
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Apr 19, 2016 14:38
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....and a 3.2 dominates nearly everything on what is essentially a dying medium the thing that's gonna kill NASCAR is their inability to "get" the internet
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Apr 19, 2016 15:23
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A dying medium for practically everything except live sports, which is unfortunately what NASCAR is.
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Apr 19, 2016 15:32
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That's fine, but there's also the pesky fact that in the realm of auto racing it crushes everything else look, if I was wrong 5 years ago when I talked about how Indy's sub 1's were gonna kill that series, the gently caress is a 3.2 gonna do to NASCAR I bet they made money on that 3.2
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Apr 19, 2016 15:47
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i suspect those ratings are worse for NASCAR than most sports since they're on a broadcast network and thus less impacted by cord cutting
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Apr 19, 2016 16:09
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VikingSkull posted:That's fine, but there's also the pesky fact that in the realm of auto racing it crushes everything else I was really surprised how much NASCAR got for their current TV deal. I guess networks are desperate for live sports. But yeah for sure with their TV deal they're still making plenty of money.
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Apr 19, 2016 16:20
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VikingSkull posted:the thing that's gonna kill NASCAR is their inability to "get" the internet This. I also want to complain that ARCA doesn't stream races not broadcast on TV. Like, why not? How much would a few cameras and a skeleton crew really cost?
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Apr 19, 2016 17:26
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Didn't ARCA try pay streaming for a race last year and charged something like $20 for the stream?
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Apr 19, 2016 17:29
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VikingSkull posted:That's fine, but there's also the pesky fact that in the realm of auto racing it crushes everything else They make money from all the sponsors they poach and all the fans they gouge and all the teams they gently caress over as well but I don't know if it's a sustainable model.
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Apr 19, 2016 18:46
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Peanut President posted:They make money from all the sponsors they poach and all the fans they gouge and all the teams they gently caress over as well but I don't know if it's a sustainable model. if they keep signing more expensive tv deals nothing else really matters I guess
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Apr 19, 2016 19:42
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With ratings in the low 3s for Bristol they aren't going to be signing many more.
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Apr 19, 2016 20:46
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There's a fan movement developing to get Matt DiBenedetto in the All-Star Race. (Insert Let's Run This poo poo Into The Ground.gif here)
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Apr 19, 2016 21:47
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CBJSprague24 posted:There's a fan movement developing to get Matt DiBenedetto in the All-Star Race. I'd support this idea.
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Apr 20, 2016 00:51
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Peanut President posted:With ratings in the low 3s for Bristol they aren't going to be signing many more. Well they got til 2024 to worry about that... For better or worse.
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Apr 20, 2016 04:38
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Peanut President posted:With ratings in the low 3s for Bristol they aren't going to be signing many more. spring Bristol race when the August one draws 3's this one will be in the 1's
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Apr 20, 2016 05:21
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VikingSkull posted:spring Bristol race It's been around 3 for a while (on major networks). Last year's Bristol night race was 2.1 (NBCSN).
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Apr 20, 2016 07:24
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Xfinity race was really great. The Cup race was pretty meh, but sometimes it's good to see a guy dominate just for variety's sake. Bring on Richmond.
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Apr 20, 2016 08:06
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BMB5150 posted:Well they got til 2024 to worry about that... For better or worse. Who the gently caress signs an 8 year tv deal
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Apr 20, 2016 09:03
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Peanut President posted:Who the gently caress signs an 8 year tv deal Indycar signed a 10 year deal with Versus. I hope it was a rhetorical question
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Apr 20, 2016 09:38
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Any long term TV deal would be done with a get-out clause for the network. I know Fox have a get-out clause in the 10-year UFC deal they signed so they can drop them if the ratings get too low so there's no way they didn't put that in the Nascar contract as well.
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Apr 20, 2016 10:32
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L_Harrison posted:It's been around 3 for a while (on major networks). Last year's Bristol night race was 2.1 (NBCSN). oh yeah that's right it's on cable now welp I guess that's how they excused it
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Apr 20, 2016 15:54
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also I will be dumbstruck if by 2024 they haven't figured out internet streaming and a way to track viewership
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Apr 20, 2016 15:56
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VikingSkull posted:also I will be dumbstruck if by 2024 they haven't figured out internet streaming and a way to track viewership This is the organization that didn't learn of unleaded fuel until ~2006.
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Apr 20, 2016 17:29
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Smoke is critical of the less-than-five lugnut rule, concerned about the frequency of loose wheels, and is threatening to go nuclear if somebody gets hurt because a tire with three lugs secured comes flying off. http://usat.ly/1STY2sX If this and the barbs thrown at Brian France earlier this year are any indication as to post-retirement Smoke,  .
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Apr 21, 2016 01:31
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"We shouldn’t be playing games with safety to win races," is absolutely right in my mind, but I always felt like the  official over your shoulder counting to five was way too much so I don't know what the gently caress any more.
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Apr 21, 2016 01:39
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They should adopt the single center locking nut like IndyCar and F1 use.
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Apr 21, 2016 01:55
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Peanut President posted:This is the organization that didn't learn of unleaded fuel until ~2006. they'd still be using it if public pressure didn't force them to change because leaded fuel is excellent in high compression engines e- also without looking it up I'm fairly confident that more leaded race fuel is used in the US (today, right now) than unleaded across the board.... I might be wrong on that though Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Apr 21, 2016 |
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Apr 21, 2016 05:19
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VikingSkull posted:also I will be dumbstruck if by 2024 they haven't figured out internet streaming and a way to track viewership NASCAR and F1 are in similar spots, really. everyone assumes management is stupid because they haven't yet capitalized on the streaming market; the reality is that it would be detrimental to do so while they can still pump so much money out of the networks.
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Apr 21, 2016 12:26
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be nice wicka posted:NASCAR and F1 are in similar spots, really. everyone assumes management is stupid because they haven't yet capitalized on the streaming market; the reality is that it would be detrimental to do so while they can still pump so much money out of the networks. Jeff Zucker used to talk about “trading analogue dollars for digital pennies.” You can also call it digital disruption. Brian France is milking as much money as he possible can now because he knows in the future those revenues won't be there. (In case it wasn't clear, the streaming market is where you go to lose profits)
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Apr 21, 2016 12:55
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daslog posted:Jeff Zucker used to talk about “trading analogue dollars for digital pennies.” You can also call it digital disruption. Brian France is milking as much money as he possible can now because he knows in the future those revenues won't be there. jeff zucker can talk that way because he's ultimately a middleman and that's not a business that will exist much longer. from his perspective he's right: those revenues won't be there because his business is not needed. NASCAR will not need to sell their product to FOX so FOX can distribute it. NASCAR can stream it directly to the customer. and maybe those revenues won't be there, but neither will the outrageous costs of traditional television. there are a lot of benefits to vertical integration. (in case it wasn't clear, the streaming market is where you go to gain profits, unless you're a company whose sole business model is based on it being difficult and expensive to do something the internet does for pennies)
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Apr 21, 2016 13:13
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If I could pay a monthly fee and subscribe to steam all of the races, I would pay $15 or $20 per month for the privilege. That seems like pennies to me.
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