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Maybe Sansa and Theon flee south, she dies and becomes Stoneheart instead?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I cannot imagine what the series has to gain by introducing Stone Heart this late in the game. Dead Freys. Brienne, Pod, Jaime and Thorys all in the Riverlands.
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 05:10 |
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geeves posted:Dead Freys. Brienne, Pod, Jaime and Thorys all in the Riverlands. :yawn:
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 05:32 |
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It would've been dumb for Thoros to vanish into thin air with or without Stoneheart. They can use the Brotherhood for something else if they want to, they got three bookless seasons to write. Also, McShane said he was bringing back a beloved character. Haha, no one loved Catelyn. Lycus fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Apr 21, 2016 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I cannot imagine what the series has to gain by introducing Stone Heart this late in the game. Remember this is a show that somehow made Dorne even worse and more pointless than it was in the books. I wouldn't put it past them at this point just to shove stoneheart in there just because its in the books so she's gotta be in there at some point and they may as well throw her in there now because they're running out of ideas. Rannos22 fucked around with this message at 07:28 on Apr 21, 2016 |
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They waited just as long for all the iron born stuff, so I can see them waiting this long to bring back Cat. What I don't know is how they're going to deal with her being a body that was dead for so long, probably several months .Lycus posted:It would've been dumb for Thoros to vanish into thin air with or without Stoneheart. They can use the Brotherhood for something else if they want to, they got three bookless seasons to write. Someone loved Cat. Only cat.
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 07:49 |
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counterfeitsaint posted:They waited just as long for all the iron born stuff, so I can see them waiting this long to bring back Cat. What I don't know is how they're going to deal with her being a body that was dead for so long, probably several months . [previously, on game of thrones] (throat slit) (chucked into the river) thoros drags her out and kisses that dead lady I will have... revenge (gargled, subtitles)
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 08:00 |
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Rannos22 posted:Remember this is a show that somehow made Dorne even worse and more pointless than it was in the books. I wouldn't put it past them at this point just to shove stoneheart in there just because its in the books so she's gotta be in there at some point and they may as well throw her in there now because they're running out of ideas. This was my guess. The showrunners have a basic idea of what happens and where things go, but they're probably still dependent on GRRM for the minor details and I can't imagine he is willing to give too many of those up before the book comes out. They're just going to stuff in all the extra random crap from the book that doesn't really need to be there to flesh things out while waiting for book 6 to get released. God knows what they do after that.
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 08:09 |
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Why does everyone hate book-Dorne? I though it was pretty great in Feast, all that backstory about the sack of King´s Landing, Elia´s children murders and the resulting long kept secret hatred of Tywin by the Princes, the marriage pact with Viserys, the Fire and Blood conversation....dunno I really enjoyed it.
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 09:06 |
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Atlas Hugged posted:They're just going to stuff in all the extra random crap from the book that doesn't really need to be there to flesh things out while waiting for book 6 to get released. God knows what they do after that. Presumably nothing, since we'll reach the heat death of the universe before that happens.
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 09:08 |
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Evil Fluffy posted:Bad news for Cleganebowl fans. Yeah but nobody actually liked Cat. I guess Littlefinger did. Edit: How loving late was I?!? Did I really think nobody would have made that joke first. Shameful.
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 09:19 |
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Mr. Neutron posted:Why does everyone hate book-Dorne? I though it was pretty great in Feast, all that backstory about the sack of King´s Landing, Elia´s children murders and the resulting long kept secret hatred of Tywin by the Princes, the marriage pact with Viserys, the Fire and Blood conversation....dunno I really enjoyed it. I loved book dorne. I felt bad that DwD retroactively makes it pointless and sets up doran for some huge misplays but then I saw good ol' preston jacobs's latest video and I hope preston is right and quentyn is alive for some dumb reason. Like skipping out on the bill from the merc company is the only goddamn reason I can think why they'd have to but whatever. Even if his supposition that they're pretending to mourn Quentyn but the body is actually the tattered prince who cares? If the tattered prince is dead they owe nobody anything so they wouldn't have to pretend.
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 09:29 |
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When did the Absolute Fucker stuff start happening? When it was discovered that AFFC was only half a book? Or did it take until ADWD coming out 6 years later?
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 09:39 |
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I think when it became clear that ADwD was not coming out in 2006 or any year near that, and that the half-decade gap between ASoS was the new normal.
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 09:40 |
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Season 3 was worst, all I remember is endless torture scenes that I fast forwarded
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 10:24 |
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Season 5 is simultaneously the worst and best for the sand snakes and their tits, respectively.
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 14:20 |
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That clip makes feel bad for Bronn because he has to look like a retard or smack the poo poo out of the nicest tits in Westeros.
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 15:13 |
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That doesn't seem like a very hard choice to me!!
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 15:24 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:When did the Absolute Fucker stuff start happening? When it was discovered that AFFC was only half a book? Or did it take until ADWD coming out 6 years later? By the time it became clear that AFFC was never coming out and Gorge just wanted to blog about football all day. About midway through the 2000s.
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 16:00 |
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I was told that "Meanwhile Back at the Wall..." was the tipping point.
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 16:05 |
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I first saw "absolute fucker" 2 years before ADWD came out, so it's at least that old.
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Lycus posted:I was told that "Meanwhile Back at the Wall..." was the tipping point. It was that plus one of the first blown deadlines for Dance.
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 16:19 |
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Evil Fluffy posted:Bad news for Cleganebowl fans. The Hound didn't even sort of die on screen. He is 100% coming back. I don't know what is up with Thoros, but don't you dare try and take away clegane bowl.
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 16:33 |
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Krinkle posted:I loved book dorne. I felt bad that DwD retroactively makes it pointless and sets up doran for some huge misplays but then I saw good ol' preston jacobs's latest video and I hope preston is right and quentyn is alive for some dumb reason. Like skipping out on the bill from the merc company is the only goddamn reason I can think why they'd have to but whatever. Even if his supposition that they're pretending to mourn Quentyn but the body is actually the tattered prince who cares? If the tattered prince is dead they owe nobody anything so they wouldn't have to pretend. I'm the exact opposite, I thought Dorne was boring as poo poo in Crows, but then became entertaining retroactively in ADWD because it was revealed as another episode of GRRM trolling his fans' expectations. Everyone loves to see familiar themes in ASOIAF, and then assume some grand/just plot payoff must be inevitable, because that's what generally happens in the dumb fantasy fiction that we enjoy. Ned was a good and honorable man who did forgiving and honorable things and in any other fantasy book he would be rewarded for that. In ASOIAF it just gets him the axe and ruins his family. People read about war-hating Old Man Dorne never doing anything for vengeance and being hated by his family for not taking actions, but then the mere act of him dramatically revealing that he has a secret plan involving Targs makes everyone assume it must be an awesome plan and will surely work. Nope! It was a poo poo poorly thought out plan, which is really what we should have expected from him based on past lack of action. People assume that because Sansa starts wearing black in the show or starts making occasional intelligent observations about politics in the books that clearly she's going become some sort of master genius political manipulator. But there's no reason to assume that will happen. Dany's the classic hero with all these prophecies so of course she's going to heroically conquer Westeros and defeat the evil walkers. Or maybe she'll just gently caress around in the rear end end of nowhere for the entire series, because she's never been an especially intelligent or capable ruler.
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 17:51 |
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Subvisual Haze posted:People assume that because Sansa starts wearing black in the show or starts making occasional intelligent observations about politics in the books that clearly she's going become some sort of master genius political manipulator. But there's no reason to assume that will happen. But according to PJ Littlefinger is going to make her Queen of Harrenhal to mirror an ancient legend or an event from his childhood or something with implications for the entire Seven Kingdoms for...no particular reason. Because if there's one character who's fully on board with fulfilling prophecies and being superstitious for superstition's sake it's Littlefinger. It's been so long since I've seen one of his videos. It makes me irrationally angry when he goes from fun-crazy to stupid-crazy. The tipping point for me was the video where he implies Rob Arryn isn't epileptic but is telepathic and is being taunted by the Children of the Forest who are mutants that survived a nuclear war...or something. He took a single line about a giant falcon from a creation myth and turned it into a multi-part video essay. And the crux of his theory was based around Jon Arryn's line being so incredibly inbred for thousands of years Jon Arryn found it difficult to have kids but they retained the Winged Knight's supposed warging ability but not so inbred that they couldn't have children beyond a few flipper baby generations and the entire Seven Kingdoms who vilify incest didn't raise a stink about it. MrSlam fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Apr 21, 2016 |
# ? Apr 21, 2016 18:56 |
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Book Dorne was certainly better than Show Dorne, but let's not forget that the Teenage Mutant Sand Snakes were just as two-dimensional and corny in the book and at least the show cut out Sephiroth, the Most Dangerous Cutter of Little Girls' Ears In Westeros. As (apparently) one of the only people in the world who enjoyed the whole Kingsmoot and subsequent Ironborn story line, I hope they don't screw it up that much. But then I remember every "Yara" scene, including the entirely pointless and unbelievable failed rescue mission, and I realize that all hope is futile.
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 22:18 |
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The cool thing about the book sand snakes were how they were like, elementals of rage. They each had their own way of grieving and overreacting. Only one of them wanted to take to spears and do a fight, personally. And Doran locks them up because they're goofy as poo poo. It really fleshed out doran as a guy with a lot of plates in the air, and a lot of plates in the cupboard because he's got enough spinning plates right now thank you very much.
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 22:21 |
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Subvisual Haze posted:Ned was a good and honorable man who did forgiving and honorable things and in any other fantasy book he would be rewarded for that. In ASOIAF it just gets him the axe and ruins his family. It is funny that despite #1, I believe next 3. I hate you for pointing that out CaptainRightful posted:As (apparently) one of the only people in the world who enjoyed the whole Kingsmoot and subsequent Ironborn story line, I hope they don't screw it up that much. But then I remember every "Yara" scene, including the entirely pointless and unbelievable failed rescue mission, and I realize that all hope is futile. I don't understand why they didn't just drop the ironborn - are they really that important to the endgame? Do any of the TV watches give a poo poo about them? I thought the kingsmoot was ok, just because it helped flesh out Victorian (?) and Euron. And it is nice to see another suitor in the race for dany. ( I like compare/contrasting Victarion and Quentin ).
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 22:29 |
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I think they wanted a big pre-White Walkers villain, so here comes Euron.
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 22:39 |
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According to that old reddit leak that I can't find anymore, Euron is going to be the person that hires the faceless men to kill Sansa and Arya is going to be that faceless man.
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 22:44 |
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Lycus posted:I think they wanted a big pre-White Walkers villain, so here comes Euron. Is he of the night? Pfft, I don't think so. Good luck, Urine.
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# ? Apr 21, 2016 22:46 |
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Reminder that on the show "the drowned men" just get some water poured on their heads. D&D literally have no idea what made the Ironborn as cool as they are. Euron is going to be disappointing and Victarion, if they have him, will be lame as poo poo. And at no point will we see a dude in full knight's armor tearing rear end in a ship battle because he doesn't fear drowning.
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# ? Apr 22, 2016 00:07 |
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Mr. Neutron posted:Why does everyone hate book-Dorne? I though it was pretty great in Feast, all that backstory about the sack of King´s Landing, Elia´s children murders and the resulting long kept secret hatred of Tywin by the Princes, the marriage pact with Viserys, the Fire and Blood conversation....dunno I really enjoyed it. I liked it on re-read. Sort of. Initially, it just pissed me off because I was hoping to know what happened to the characters that I'd been following for the first few books instead of BlahBlah-mo-Something and the Gouty Pedo.
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# ? Apr 22, 2016 00:49 |
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Reminder that on the show "the drowned men" just get some water poured on their heads. That was Theon, not a Drowned Man. In the book, Damphair poured a skin of saltwater on Theon's head. Lycus fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Apr 22, 2016 |
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Reminder that on the show "the drowned men" just get some water poured on their heads. The ironborn were never cool.
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Solice Kirsk posted:According to that old reddit leak that I can't find anymore, Euron is going to be the person that hires the faceless men to kill Sansa and Arya is going to be that faceless man. whyfor would euron do that?
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# ? Apr 22, 2016 01:10 |
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To rule the north/Vale/whatever.
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# ? Apr 22, 2016 01:14 |
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Evil Fluffy posted:The ironborn were never cool. Wrong.
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Who's the flaming Santy Clause?
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