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Biplane posted:Did we watch the same movie? Finn and Poe's meetup at the rebel base? Every single encounter they have together? It was all so different from any Finn and Rey scenes. Honestly I would be blown away if Finn and Poe don't end up getting gay-space-married. All I saw is two guys who develop a close bond through the rescue and combat. Movies do this all the time. I mean if we were watching a real-life recording of people that actually existed, I'd probably agree that there was some attraction, but they're fictional characters and their sexual orientation is whatever the writers decide it will be. But it's a movie, made by a company notorious for doing whatever it takes to make money, not make social statements. Next thing I know you'll be telling me that Maverick and Goose and/or Iceman were actually gay for each other.
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Murphy Brownback posted:All I saw is two guys who develop a close bond through the rescue and combat. Movies do this all the time. I mean if we were watching a real-life recording of people that actually existed, I'd probably agree that there was some attraction, but they're fictional characters and their sexual orientation is whatever the writers decide it will be. But it's a movie, made by a company notorious for doing whatever it takes to make money, not make social statements. Those are all good points, and yeah at the end of the day it is pretty much a guess by me so it'll be interesting to see where it ends up.
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Murphy Brownback posted:All I saw is two guys who develop a close bond through the rescue and combat. Movies do this all the time. I mean if we were watching a real-life recording of people that actually existed, I'd probably agree that there was some attraction, but they're fictional characters and their sexual orientation is whatever the writers decide it will be. But it's a movie, made by a company notorious for doing whatever it takes to make money, not make social statements. Isn't Disney known for being pretty pro-LGBT to the point of having a "Gay Day" celebration at Disneyland since 1991?
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Biplane posted:Did we watch the same movie? Finn and Poe's meetup at the rebel base? Every single encounter they have together? It was all so different from any Finn and Rey scenes. Honestly I would be blown away if Finn and Poe don't end up getting gay-space-married. I don't understand the Finn/Poe thing, because the two share less than ten minutes of screen time in the whole movie.
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I got an "encouraging big bro" vibe from Poe towards Finn so all the passionate Poe/Finn shipping online caught me completely off-guard and also kinda skeeves me out to be completely honest. I just don't see it at all, and I've done a fair amount of reading gay subtext into stuff in my time. 
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Finn and Poe isn't going to be a thing. Officially I mean, it's alright a thing.
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Canemacar posted:Isn't Disney known for being pretty pro-LGBT to the point of having a "Gay Day" celebration at Disneyland since 1991? Gay day is unofficial, but yeah
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Isn't Finn being into Rey and trying to impress her a major plot point? I thought that was the only reason he was involved with anything after he defected from the army. I mean the whole movie kind of glosses over why anyone does anything but that's the impression i got. I was kind of annoyed how much the movie leaned on twists and reversals and revelations. The OG Star Wars movies had like two or three of those, total, but they all felt important. In VII they tend not to explain anything until after they set up your expectations to be something else and it feels like the only reason anything happens is the plot beat immediately before it.
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GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:Gay day is unofficial, but yeah Disney is very savvy. They don't endorse it which gives them deniability but they don't obstruct it which keeps everyone else happy.
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Murphy Brownback posted:I was just watching some movie called "Echelon Conspiracy", and aside from the fact that it was just a ripoff of every other prior "government computer develops a mind of its own" movie, it had a blatant use of one of the most irritating things in movies like that. If someone has an earpiece in, no matter whether it's supposed to be covert (as it was in this case) or otherwise, they always touch it with their finger when they're receiving a message. You know you're being watched by cameras everywhere you idiot, stop touching it. He had just gotten in trouble with casino security for having a cellphone out, and he thinks sticking his finger in his ear every couple minutes is going to be less suspicious? See Casino Royale for perfect in movie answer to this.
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I haven't factored Jessica Jones or The Walking Dead in my thoughts of mixed-race relationships because this is the Irrationally Irritating Movie Moments.  I also haven't caught up on my Fast & Furious movies so I haven't seen all the current racial diversity that franchise has. I'm watching Last Action Hero right now and my IIMM is that this movie should be a lot better than it ended up being. 
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Last Action Hero came so close to being an incredible satire of all Arnold's movies and action movies in general and had a few great moments. But it just lacked that special something to make it great. Hell, it even had movie version hero Arnold meet real life Arnold and decide he was a real jerk.
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I just watched Scream for the first time since like 1999 and it was fantastic. I watch about four horror movies a week and most are poo poo, so it was refreshing for something that I thought would be outdated dreck to turn out so nicely. My IIMM is why doesn't Matthew Lillard get more work? He owns. I hope he kills it in Twin Peaks.
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Gorilla Salad posted:Last Action Hero came so close to being an incredible satire of all Arnold's movies and action movies in general and had a few great moments. But it just lacked that special something to make it great. The scene where they go to action hero Schwarzenegger's lovely little apartment and he lazily shoots the wardrobe because of course there is a guy in there is just the best. The movie spends a little too much time setting up and joking about action hero cliches that everybody already knows anyway, but it should have had more Arnold choking on tears he isn't allowed to cry because action heroes don't cry.
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Murphy Brownback posted:Next thing I know you'll be telling me that Maverick and Goose and/or Iceman were actually gay for each other. Are you saying they weren't?
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Inzombiac posted:Disney is very savvy. They don't endorse it which gives them deniability but they don't obstruct it which keeps everyone else happy. They put out an It Gets Better video back when that's a thing, it doesn't get more explicit than that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a4MR8oI_B8
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Guy Mann posted:They put out an It Gets Better video back when that's a thing, it doesn't get more explicit than that. He's talking specifically about Gay Day.
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Finn and Poe being in a relationship seems stupid to me because it's implying that men can't be good friends with each other without being sexually attracted to one another.
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joshtothemaxx posted:I just watched Scream for the first time since like 1999 and it was fantastic. I watch about four horror movies a week and most are poo poo, so it was refreshing for something that I thought would be outdated dreck to turn out so nicely. He only has the one note, but if it's the right role a la Shaggy or Cereal Killer, it can be very entertaining.
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Thaddius the Large posted:He only has the one note, but if it's the right role a la Shaggy or Cereal Killer, it can be very entertaining. He was also the best part of the loving terrible Dungeon Siege movie, where he's just devouring the scenery. He knew what kind of movie he was in and just went hog wild. I appreciate that.
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joshtothemaxx posted:I just watched Scream for the first time since like 1999 and it was fantastic. I watch about four horror movies a week and most are poo poo, so it was refreshing for something that I thought would be outdated dreck to turn out so nicely. He's really good in the FX show "The Bridge". I'm probably the last person on the planet to see The Force Awakens so I'm sure this has already been talked to death but what was up with that storm trooper getting into a lightsaber fight with Finn outside the temple? Why did he have an anti lightsaber weapon handy? As far as the First Order knows the only lightsaber fighter in the galaxy is Kylo Ren so why would they have a weapon to fight him? Also did they ever say what planets got blowed the gently caress up by the Starkiller base? Also I don't care how much robot labor and technology you have at your disposal, you could not build a planet sized weapon in just 25 years.
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Your Gay Uncle posted:He's really good in the FX show "The Bridge". EU IS DEAD Except that there is a precedent for fairly normal weapons naturally defending against lightsabers. Vibro blades, for instance. Spin Trooper looked like just a dude with a cool tonfa cattle prod, saw Finn and said, " gently caress it, let's try this out".
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Poe and Finn were just sizzling with chemistry. They were like a modern Bogey and Bacall. Except I seriously doubt John Boyega and Oscar Isaac are loving IRL.
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Inzombiac posted:EU IS DEAD why don't Jedi's make some robes out of vibro blades?
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Your Gay Uncle posted:He's really good in the FX show "The Bridge". The last time they thought there were no Jedi left and threw out their fancy lightsaber fighting staves some untrained kid shows up and starts lightsabering stuff up.
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Your Gay Uncle posted:As far as the First Order knows the only lightsaber fighter in the galaxy is Kylo Ren so why would they have a weapon to fight him? Except for Luke Skywalker. You know, the guy the First Order was trying to find?
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Your Gay Uncle posted:why don't Jedi's make some robes out of vibro blades?  The fact that this exists is basically all I know about the EU. That and everyone is clones.
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It doesn't look like it allows for very much mobility, also why doesn't he have little blades sticking up around his neck/head and protecting his torso? You know, just the most vital parts of the body?
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The ones coming out of his kneecaps are amazing. That would cause so many unforeseen problems.
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Gaunab posted:Finn and Poe being in a relationship seems stupid to me because it's implying that men can't be good friends with each other without being sexually attracted to one another. If they made A New Hope today, people would be shipping Han and Luke. Gay shipping is just a thing that happens now.
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Gaunab posted:Finn and Poe being in a relationship seems stupid to me because it's implying that men can't be good friends with each other without being sexually attracted to one another. It really isn't. You could just as easily say that if they don't do it, it implies that gay relationships don't exist in SW. Which would also be wrong.
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Actually that would probably be true.
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WampaLord posted:If they made A New Hope today, people would be shipping Han and Luke. Gay shipping is just a thing that happens now. People were shipping Kirk and Spock in 1967.
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Your Gay Uncle posted:why don't Jedi's make some robes out of vibro blades? Why don't they make planes out of that mysterious blackbox material? It's because the Hutts have a monopoly.
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Your Gay Uncle posted:He's really good in the FX show "The Bridge". It fired on the Hosnian system which Poe mentions when he's talking to Leia I think.
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Gaunab posted:Finn and Poe being in a relationship seems stupid to me because it's implying that men can't be good friends with each other without being sexually attracted to one another. [insert almost any male and female leads of any movie or show who end up getting together] seems stupid to me because it's implying that men and women can't be good friends with each other without being sexually attracted to one another. e: Your Gay Uncle posted:
There was a prequel book made to promote TFA that explores Finn, Rey and Poe's backstory. It details the squad that Finn has spent his whole life with, and many people have theorized that 1.) the trooper who dies and leaves the bloody handprint on Finn's helmet is one of his squadmates and 2.) the baton-wielding trooper is one of the other two, feeling personally betrayed. As for why they have the weapon: They know there are other jedi out there now. Not just Luke, but also the ones Luke has trained. They know this because their leader was ONE OF THEM. Indigo Cephalopods has a new favorite as of 01:38 on May 2, 2016 |
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Indigo Cephalopods posted:[insert almost any male and female leads of any movie or show who end up getting together] seems stupid to me because it's implying that men and women can't be good friends with each other without being sexually attracted to one another.
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Strudel Man posted:That one's actually true, though.  Strudel man on the right.
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Indigo Cephalopods posted:[insert almost any male and female leads of any movie or show who end up getting together] seems stupid to me because it's implying that men and women can't be good friends with each other without being sexually attracted to one another.  I bet you thought I was going to post 
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i thought the whole thing with finn/poe was fueled in part because the dude playing poe said the overtones were on purpose
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